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Topic: RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Topic: RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

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FearLeon
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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/20/2018 9:30:58 PM

Jerry86 wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

Chalk up another loss by 20 points or more in the Saul era. That ugly stat gets uglier.

Unlike you, who mainly posts after losses, I am content withn a 7-4 record at this stage. Rather than focus on negatives, I prefer to look at who's been on the court so far this year and our opposition. Guess you expected 11-0 or 10-1.

Wrong. I post after wins too. Did I expect 10-1...nope. Do I expect a coach in his fifth year at the helm to not lose by 28 points to a Big Ten team not ranked in the top 25...I sure do. This staff had a lot of time to prepare for the marquee game on the schedule and this is what we got tonight? Brutal.

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/20/2018 9:31:31 PM

It is what it is. No one expected Ohio to beat Purdue. Better to risk blowing it big to make it big. I am not sure what Ohio takes away from this game other than the need to continue to work on improving their shooting percentage. I am also still looking for the glue that holds this team together. All that said, we have won more than we have lost at this point and against some solid competition. It will be interesting to see how this all translates to league play. Go Bobcats!

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/20/2018 9:38:42 PM

I didn't see the game, only listened. My biggest disappointment was the defensive effort and getting torched the way we did. I thought the defense seemed quite improved this year and was helping while the offensive pieces tried to fit together. I know Purdue is a tough place to play and a win wouldn't have been easy, but this was a step back. It hurts that there will be no buzz on campus when the MAC season starts. needing something to get the student body energized and this was a thud.

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/20/2018 9:41:33 PM

FearLeon wrote:

Jerry86 wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

Chalk up another loss by 20 points or more in the Saul era. That ugly stat gets uglier.

Yet you gloated about the loss to Xavier as you did tonight. Against X we were down a mere 5 points with 6 minutes left. Instead of seeing the poitives of hanging in there 34 minutes you rant about a BIG loss. Wake up call ... game was closer than final score that night. I get it .. you seem to despise Saul and want him gone.

oubobcatjohn
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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 3:35:42 AM

The key for this team in conference will be cutting down on the turnovers, taking better shots and making free throws. It comes down to focus and attention to detail. This team looks like a decent defense team. They rebound well too. This team is not a great shooting team. Dartis or Gollon returning could help that.

SBH
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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 8:25:46 AM

I think this team (like all of Saul's teams) is weak on defense. Just watch Kirk out there, for example.

Diamond Cat
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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 9:00:52 AM

I watched it until I couldn't. Watched the football game again to exercise the demons from the sorry effort from the hoops squad.

No D. No shooting. No energy. No win. Once again we were another's teams get well game.

Bobcat1996
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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 9:03:45 AM

The league schedule begins soon and the key is to win all or most of the games in the Convo. If Ohio can accomplish that and get BG, NI and a few others on the road then they should get 20 wins. Hopefully they will get hot in March and play well in Cleveland.

71 BOBCAT
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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 9:11:46 AM

There was no surprises in this game.
Purdue was clearly the better team on both offense and defense.
We will really know more about this team after the 2nd week of the MAC schedule, where we are up against similarly talented teams.

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 9:27:53 AM

My optimistic nature was hoping that Purdue was a better team than the one I watched. Unfortunately, the Big Ten post game crew seemed to indicate that the Boilermakers should finish between 8-10th in the conference. They were thinking that Purdue might be a NCAA bubble tournament team. With a 28 point loss, I am glad we didn't play an upper echelon team. Thankfully toward the end of the broadcast, Andy Katz made mention that it wasn't all that long ago that Power Conference teams had some trepidation in playing us.

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 9:28:19 AM

What's funny is that I knew I'd come to this thread and see people bitching about the blowout loss. Odds are that the same people would have complained if this game wasn't played at all, and instead Ohio was playing another MEAC school at home. Can't have it both ways folks.

Finding a positive out of this one, Murrell showed good things against a good team. Maybe he's just now fully recovered and game fit from the off season surgery.

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 9:34:15 AM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

It's why I like the golf score system that gets used on here frequently. Usually a good reflection of the standings by the end of the year.

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 9:45:30 AM

Geeeze, I hate to say it, but Saul needs to go! This team has shown no progress the past couple of years, continues to play lousy defense and is just plain tough to watch. OU has a proud history in bball, and with embarrassing showings like last night, there does not appear to be much hope for the future under this staff. NEXT!

Andrew Ruck
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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 10:07:13 AM

Purdue was ridiculous last night. Sure we were slow to the perimeter on defense a few times, but my God were they shooting...it seemed like half of their makes didn't even touch the net. I think they would've beaten just about anyone last night, and I think they'll be good in the Big Ten. Carter was off tonight, did not have his normal touch around the rim...I'm not concerned.

The one thing I will complain about is TK still having constant reckless drives. I appreciate he can make some impressive finishes but not before he takes a couple total bonehead impossible shots. He isn't facing overmatched high schoolers anymore, he can't just barrel in and assume he will figure something out. He still desperately needs to increase his vision for his teammates. 0 assists from our point guard last night. Zero.

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 10:18:44 AM

Really enjoyed watching the game last night although I would have preferred a much differnet outcome. It was nice to see a well-officiated game without a bunch of cheap fouls called when guys were flopping or acting 30 feet from the basket. The throw back your head on contact that the dribbler initiates which results in a defensive foul drives me nuts. Last night, the refs set the tone early and let the players play. That said, no team is going to win many games with only 11 assists and 63% free throw shooting.

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 10:22:28 AM

OU_Country wrote:

Odds are that the same people would have complained if this game wasn't played at all, and instead Ohio was playing another MEAC school at home. Can't have it both ways folks.

Too much to ask for having Ohio play at Purdue, rather than a home game v. a MEAC school, and looking halfway respectable at the same time?

There was a time, not too long ago, when Ohio would do just that. The Bobcats would even pull off a win every once in a while.

brucecuth
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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 10:41:15 AM

1. Boilers shoot like that the rest of the year, book 'em for top half of the Big 10 and an NCAA berth.
2. Defense...defense...defense. Improved from Jamaica, but it would be difficult for it to have gotten worse.
3. Murrell showed flashes in first half, but he has a slow first step, making him easier to guard. Maybe some off season training could help.
4. I love Carter, so I was disappointed that he didn't do better on a nationally televised game.
5. We just aren't a very good road team right now, especially against good competition. If we were facing Bullfalo at their place, for example, I am guessing the results would not have been much different.
6. Never use injuries as an excuse, but we really miss Dartis and his consistent shot from behind the arc.
6.1. BVP is a very pleasant surprise.
7. Despite the outcome, I am glad we scheduled this game. I think it demonstrates to everyone how far we have to go to be able to compete against legit Top 60 programs.
8. I view the recruiting for basketball the same way I see it in volleyball. Both Saul and Webb do not seem to be recruiting the same caliber players as their predecessors. In was only 4 years ago the volleyball team beat OSU on a neutral court. This year the girls were utterly destroyed by OSU (I was there.) Just 6 yrs ago we gave UNC everything it could handle in the Sweet 16. Now this. Until we start getting better players, I don't expect things to change for either sport.

Last Edited: 12/21/2018 10:46:15 AM by brucecuth

oubobcatjohn
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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 10:48:44 AM

These big gsmes on TV on the road vs power conference games are a good test for the team. These type of games expose our weakness which is the guard play and negate our strength which is inside. The size of Purdue took away Carter and Taylor inside. Against majors that works, but against teams like Purdue it puts us at a disadvantage. I commend Ohio for playing a stronger non-conference schedule. That will help in conference play. We learned what its like on the road against bigger, stronger and quicker players. That is what it will be like vs Buffalo. The rest of MAC we might be in good shape against.

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 10:55:33 AM

cbus cat fan wrote:

Yes, indeed, the Ohio Bobcats used to be quite a dangerous team to play and could beat anyone on any given night. No perceived fear of that now. Now that Ohio is becoming a Football school; perhaps, Saul is helping us transition successfully in basketball to either Division II or Division III. How brilliant, if true. The money that used to be spent on Basketball can now be funneled fully to the football program. Maybe, in fact, the future of Ohio basketball is to become a club sport only. Wow! I wish I had a sports management degree, so that I could understand the inner-workings of running Ohio Athletics.

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 11:23:11 AM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

This. Purdue was ON FIRE. Cline was hitting fading 3s with guys in his face. If they can play like that consistently they will finish much higher than 8-10 in the B10 and they will certainly be dancing. I thought pre-game BA comments about being within 15-20 were spot on, but the Boilermakers were having a night, it is what it is, moving on.

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 2:24:59 PM

Expected a loss - got a loss. On that front it was not surprising.

Wished we had at least made it competitive (see the "well let's keep it within 20" comments), but alas we couldn't. It is what it is.

We aren't in the running for an at-large bid, so the loss and the size of the loss (I believe NET ranking stops accounting for margin at 10) doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, so the sky is not falling. It counts as one L regardless. Put it in the L column and move on.

Nothing before or after yesterday changes the fact that our season hinges on one week in March in Cleveland.

What DOES matter is that it was still disheartening to see how far we still need to go. We're nowhere near where we need to be to start realistically thinking of competing for the MAC or NCAA tourney. We got some nice minutes from Murrell. TK "only" had 3 turnovers (but also had 0 assists). BVP is our best/most consistent threat from beyond the 3pt line and honestly deserves more minutes. But on the whole - this team looks like a below average MAC team.

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 4:58:52 PM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

TK, simply put, isn't a point guard. In my mind, typically, point guards involve teammates, are better than average defenders, have at least average court vision, and they lead their team. He's lucky if he has two of those on a given night. ALL of his strengths are that of a 2, and a guy who is tailor made to be the 6th-7th guy off the bench. I love his strengths, but I don't think they outweigh his flaws or weaknesses based on how he's deployed by the coaches.

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 5:00:13 PM

FearLeon wrote:

Jerry86 wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

Chalk up another loss by 20 points or more in the Saul era. That ugly stat gets uglier.

If you're basing your basketball thoughts on the "top 25 rankings".... Well....

This Purdue team is far better than their record suggests.

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 5:20:49 PM

SBH wrote:

I think this team (like all of Saul's teams) is weak on defense. Just watch Kirk out there, for example.

I honestly don't think all of Saul's teams have been weak on defense. I think this one has weak links right now, but it also has some really strong defensive players.

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RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Purdue

Posted: 12/21/2018 6:18:19 PM

Well, you're right. Just four of his five teams.

We've been ranked 12th, 2nd, 11th, 12th and 10th (so far) in team defense among MAC teams.

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