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Topic: RE: buffalo is for real

Topic: RE: buffalo is for real

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GraffZ06
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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/24/2019 7:48:45 PM

This isn't even the best MAC team this decade.

Not getting out of the first weekend.

Straight getting HOUSED today. Like punked.

What is...

FearLeon
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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/24/2019 7:49:26 PM

They got the best #3 seed in the tourney...tough draw. Bye Nate...thanks for elevating the MAC to another level these past two years.

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/24/2019 8:04:06 PM

I dunno. Maybe Oats is gone, but color me unimpressed. Lots of coaches can lose in the tourney by 40.

If he was in the running at my school, he wouldn't be anymore. #MarchMatters.

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/24/2019 8:09:55 PM

Lol Tariq Owens plays for Texas Tech? How does he still have eligibility!? His college career outlasted Saul�s entire contract here

I've seen crazier things happen.

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/24/2019 8:20:06 PM

GraffZ06 wrote:

I dunno. Maybe Oats is gone, but color me unimpressed. Lots of coaches can lose in the tourney by 40.

If he was in the running at my school, he wouldn't be anymore. #MarchMatters.

You cant let one game lead to that conclusion .

The game was a 20 pt loss, not 40. Still bad, but not as bad as 40.

Tech beat Kansas earlier this year 91-62. They are capable of manhandling almost any team in the country on a given day when they have it all clicking offensively and defensively.

Last Edited: 3/24/2019 8:27:34 PM by Jeff McKinney

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/24/2019 8:52:06 PM

Not sure if it is in this massive thread, but Nate Oats to UCLA would be a great get for them. Not the big name their fanbase would want, but maybe the one they need.

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/24/2019 9:02:54 PM

ohio9704 wrote:

Not sure if it is in this massive thread, but Nate Oats to UCLA would be a great get for them. Not the big name their fanbase would want, but maybe the one they need.

That seems like a pretty big leap. I had him pegged for more of a UNLV or Vanderbilt type gig.

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/24/2019 9:09:18 PM

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

ohio9704 wrote:

Not sure if it is in this massive thread, but Nate Oats to UCLA would be a great get for them. Not the big name their fanbase would want, but maybe the one they need.

That seems like a pretty big leap. I had him pegged for more of a UNLV or Vanderbilt type gig.

Nothing about the Pac 12 is a leap right now. That being said, get what you are saying. Maybe a CAL more his speed. But, I do think he would be an awesome hire. UNLV would be a step down in my opinion, place for a coaches career to go and die.

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/24/2019 9:30:06 PM

ohio9704 wrote:

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

ohio9704 wrote:

Not sure if it is in this massive thread, but Nate Oats to UCLA would be a great get for them. Not the big name their fanbase would want, but maybe the one they need.

That seems like a pretty big leap. I had him pegged for more of a UNLV or Vanderbilt type gig.

Lon Kruger did all right for himself.

It's a step up in salary and in facilities.
Would you rather coach at the Thomas & Mack center: https://i.imgur.com/U9SxmiC.jpg
or
Alumni Arena: https://i.imgur.com/1Aeedbo.jpg

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/24/2019 9:44:33 PM

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

ohio9704 wrote:

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

ohio9704 wrote:

Not sure if it is in this massive thread, but Nate Oats to UCLA would be a great get for them. Not the big name their fanbase would want, but maybe the one they need.

That seems like a pretty big leap. I had him pegged for more of a UNLV or Vanderbilt type gig.

He is already a king at one of those places and signed to be paid well. I do get what you are saying, just dont think it is a great job for him and what he currently has. Kelvin Sampson or Rick Pitino seems like a good fit there. Also, technically, Alford went from New Mexico to UCLA.

Last Edited: 3/24/2019 9:49:50 PM by ohio9704

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/24/2019 10:40:13 PM

FearLeon wrote:

They got the best #3 seed in the tourney...tough draw. Bye Nate...thanks for elevating the MAC to another level these past two years.

Agreed. And it's worth considering they got one of TTU's best games all year today.

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/25/2019 11:59:26 AM

The Optimist wrote:

Lol Tariq Owens plays for Texas Tech? How does he still have eligibility!? His college career outlasted Saul�s entire contract here

The kid has played all over the place. Sort of a trip seeing him out there.

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/25/2019 12:00:13 PM

LuckySparrow wrote:

The Optimist wrote:

Lol Tariq Owens plays for Texas Tech? How does he still have eligibility!? His college career outlasted Saul�s entire contract here

The kid has played all over the place. Sort of a trip seeing him out there.

Now if we can find the 7 Footer...Anthony Allen. Now he is truly Big Foot.

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/25/2019 1:24:13 PM

Just leaving Tulsa now and was at the games yesterday. Gotta assume it looked pretty bad on TV, but Tech literally made their offense work from the sidelines in. Penetration in the middle was a premium for Buffalo and the fact they weren't hitting early along with turnovers doomed Buffalo out of the gates.

Will say though, nothing to be ashamed of. Prolly one of the better teams in the country they just lost to. Nonetheless, the Oats watch begins.....

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/25/2019 2:32:36 PM

OU_Country wrote:

FearLeon wrote:

They got the best #3 seed in the tourney...tough draw. Bye Nate...thanks for elevating the MAC to another level these past two years.

Agreed. And it's worth considering they got one of TTU's best games all year today.

Buffalo didn't play especially well, but the Red Raiders were shooting out of their minds early in that game.

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/25/2019 4:41:14 PM

One hell of a team, wish they would have advanced. They don�t owe anyone an apology for that loss, TT proved themselves to be a tough out. It would have been great for Buffalo to carry the MAC banner forward. A tip of the cap and congratulations to Buffalo on one hell of a successful season.

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/26/2019 2:59:39 PM

Prep Scouting is reporting on Twitter that Oats turned down UNLV. Porter Moser (Loyola) also turned them down.

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/26/2019 3:22:41 PM

I find it laughable that some are serious when they say that Buffalo is the best MAC basketball team of all-time because they lost in the 2nd round of the NCAA Tourney to the Big XII champs and one of the top ten teams in the country.

It's even more laughable that some think the Sweet 16 Ohio team or the Elite Eight Kent teams are hands down better?

C'mon. Kent was 7-4 entering MAC play the year they made their run.

Ohio's best non-NCAA tourney win was at 20-12 Northern Iowa that year.

Both Ohio and Kent had magical runs in the tournament. It was awesome! Both were extremely memorable and will forever be etched in time.

But how quickly are we to dismiss Buffalo's 32 wins ... being ranked for EVERY WEEK but the first one. The last team from the MAC to be ranked going into the NCAA tournament was the 1989 Ball State team ... 30 years ago!!! They were #18.

Buffalo was ranked in the Top 20 11 weeks! It wasn't like they were just hovering around #25 all year. They entered the NCAA tourney ranked #15.

C'mon!

Do you want to go back to the 1962 BG team that was Top Ten entering the tournament ... and then lost in the 1st round?

That was a joke.

You cannot compare 1960s college basketball to 2010s college basketball.

In the modern era ... no MAC team has had a full season like Buffalo.

We've seen teams make great runs in the NCAA tournament ... but nobody put together a November through March like Buffalo did.

I'm sorry. They got a bad draw in the tourney and ran into a buzzsaw vs. a really good Texas Tech team. That doesn't erase what they did this year.

And if Nate Oats is okay with making $850k at UB (and it sounds like he is) ... they are going to be a force for a long time in this league. Makes Jeff Boals' job that much tougher to get Ohio back to the mountain top.

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/26/2019 4:57:48 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^What he said^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/26/2019 9:50:24 PM

bshot44 wrote:

Stick to football analysis.

They had only 32 teams in the 60's so playing someone tough from the first go. You wouldn't be making fun of Nate Thurmon or Howard Komives would you? When two Bulls play in the NBA (before expansion) then tell me how great the Bulls are vs old Bugs.

Ball State team is light years up on Buffalo and nearly upsetting the eventual UNLV Tarkanian bunch.

Watching Buffalo against the MAC and they were superior and won close ones because of their poise. But the team would only go as far as Harris could take them and he came up small against TT. A great player would have still found ways to put his team on his back. The bulls weren't even competitive in the game statistically.

With GOOD Ivo on the floor along with Walt and Reg along with TJ and Jon Smith coming off the bench I think we beat them 6 out of 10 times on a neutral court. (I'll give the nod to Harris and Massenburg getting the superior marks over Coop and Kellogg)

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/27/2019 12:49:10 AM

MonroeClassmate wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

This is what's great about message boards.

Agree to disagree.

Comparing 1960s college basketball today is absurd.

No one is suggesting that Thurmond or Komives weren't good. But that BG played one ranked team all year. Not like they were world beaters. Oh ... and they faced unranked Butler in NCAA 1st Rd & lost. The comparison is just silly. Plus I think Harris, Perkins & Massenburg all get NBA looks. Don't think they'll all make it. But you make it sound like their roster was full of clowns.

And that 89 Ball team was good ... but I think you're confusing them and the 1990 Sweet Sixteen team. The 90 team made a great run but they needed 3 straight MAC tourney wins to just get in. The 89 team was the one that was ranked at the end of year and got knocked out of NCAAs in 2nd round. (Hmmm ... who does that sound like?) But their best wins were a home win vs 15-16 Purdue and road wins at Minnesota & Northwestern. Sorry. I'm not buying them as better and surely not running circles around Buffalo.

And if you mean 1990 Ball team ... they needed to win MAC Tourney just to get in at 24-6 before their run.

Neither team can say they were ranked all season and won at WVU & Syracuse and won 32 games.

The fact you even throw in Ohio sweet 16 team is crazy. I LOVED that team ... but not sure their season was on par with Buffalo's. They lost to Robert Morris and 5 MAC games.

Their run was amazing. And they were super talented. And maybe in a mythical matchup they could beat Buffalo. Bottom line is, they didn't have a season as completely dominant as Buffalo.

Bulls have a bad game vs Tech and you want to write them off as chumps. C'mon.

Last Edited: 3/27/2019 12:52:15 AM by bshot44

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/27/2019 4:57:17 PM

had a feeling tech would beat buffalo like that. when buffalo beat west Virginia they needed OT and only won byu five. when tech played west viginia they dominated completely. they beat by about 30. I also feel if buffalo had been more patient and passed the ball more they had a chance to win maybe. I,m sure UB would have had their ass handed to em by Michigan any way.

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RE: buffalo is for real

Posted: 3/27/2019 5:30:04 PM

ohio9704 wrote:

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

ohio9704 wrote:

Not sure if it is in this massive thread, but Nate Oats to UCLA would be a great get for them. Not the big name their fanbase would want, but maybe the one they need.

That seems like a pretty big leap. I had him pegged for more of a UNLV or Vanderbilt type gig.

Or Bama. By coming back to Buffalo for this past season, he put himself in position for the top openings this year.

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