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Topic: RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Topic: RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

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L.C.
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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 1/23/2013 8:41:35 PM

Rozier was smoother, though, and lost less speed during cutbacks. Carson is better in his Senior film than he is in his Junior film, and I think he'll continue to improve.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 2/6/2013 3:22:15 PM

This link has Carson headed to JC at Georgia Military College.

http://lilburn.patch.com/articles/football-scholarship-co...

Unclear if we sign him hoping he'll qualify or we're placing him there...or neither.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 2/6/2013 3:40:58 PM

Huge loss here. Coffee is for closers.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 2/6/2013 3:44:56 PM

**sigh** Kenny Ashley keeps breaking my heart.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 2/6/2013 3:46:52 PM

BuddyLee wrote:

Huge loss here. Coffee is for closers.

How can they close someone who isn't qualified? Unless you think he opted for Georgia Military College over Ohio.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 2/6/2013 3:47:35 PM

Yes, the key question now is will Ohio be able to get him back from there in a couple years. I'm hoping the answer is yes. I'd still like to see him and Dorian Brown as a 1-2 punch.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 2/6/2013 4:07:22 PM

Paul Graham wrote:

What's the chance this guy has the grades required...or test scores? If last year taught me anything, it's that Frank and crew are willing to take a chance (or two or three) on partial qualifiers. Anyone can SAY they are gonna show up at Taco Johns for Taco Tuesday. But only some make it. Wake me up when he's popping a Potato Ole into his mouth.

Man...this guy CALLED IT. Smart dude.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 2/6/2013 9:18:53 PM

Paul Graham wrote:

Man...this guy CALLED IT. Smart dude.

Watch it Paul, watch it. I may have to bring up Billy Bayno.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 5/30/2016 7:16:59 PM

Starting RB at Ok State

L.C.
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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 6/1/2016 5:45:42 PM

It isn't surprising to me that he's done well. Ohio has recruited some high quality backs the last few years. If the offensive line gels this year, as I think it will, they are going to post some great numbers this fall.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 6/2/2016 5:08:44 PM

Recruited? Or actually landed?

Are we now giving credit for merely recruiting a young man, without actually being able to bring him on??

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 6/3/2016 7:01:58 AM

Ohio had a commitment from Carson, but he failed to qualify. When that has happened, Ohio has sometimes been able to get the players back to Athens after Junior College, but sometimes players get "found" by other schools based on their strong performances in Junior College.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 6/3/2016 10:10:08 AM

So, you're saying that we never actually landed him (brought in and had him on the team)?

Would this be akin to judging this coaching staff on its accomplishments instead of projections?

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 6/3/2016 12:42:45 PM

They recruited him and secured a commitment that is a notch regardless of what you think. Relationships and networking matter in recruiting they help place the kids into the Juco also.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 6/3/2016 2:52:03 PM

Bobcatzblitz wrote:

They recruited him and secured a commitment that is a notch regardless of what you think. Relationships and networking matter in recruiting they help place the kids into the Juco also.

There is some minor value in those things.

But, unfortunately, the hard reality is that this is business. This is a real thing with lots of money tied to it.

So, again unfortunately, no credit given for 'almost.' It's definite results that matter.

It may be unfortunate that this is so. But everyone knows it's so. And the coaches--at least the head coach--is paid very well in respect of the challenge.

So, the challenge needs to be met...not almost or sort of met.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 6/3/2016 2:52:27 PM

I don't know many working people who get paid for half-way, almost results.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 6/3/2016 3:10:57 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

I don't know many working people who get paid for half-way, almost results.

Head Coach Frank Solich
Alma Mater Nebraska, 1966
Record at Ohio 80-61, .567 (11th Year)
MAC Record 53-35, .600 (11th Year)
Career Record 138-80, .633 (17th Year)

MAC Coaching Records
TOP 5 BY WINS
1. 110 Herb Deromedi, CMU
2. 108 Bill Hess, Ohio
3. 80 Frank Solich, Ohio
4. 79 Bob Pruett, Marshall
5. 77 Doyt Perry, BGSU

OHIO vs MAC Since 2009 (Credit to 71Bobcat)
W -L Record Bowl Eligibility
NIU 72-25 7
Ohio 57-35 7
Toledo 57-32 6
BG 50-42 5
CMU 45-44 4
WMU 39-48 4
Ball 39-47 2
Kent 35-50 1
Buffalo 30-54 1
Miami 24-62 1
Akron 24-61 1
EMU 15-69 0

2009-2015 for games against MAC teams with winning records: Thanks L.C.

NIU 16-8 .667
Toledo 11-16 .407
CMU 9-16 .360
Ohio 8-15 .348
BG 10-19 .345
WMU 6-19 .240
Ball St 7-23 .233
Kent 6-21 .222
Buffalo 3-23 .115
Miami 2-25 .074
Akron 1-23 .042
Temple 0-5 .000
UMass 0-13 .000
EMU 0-33 .000
Total 79-259 .234

In the last 41 years, Ohio University football has been to just nine bowl games, however seven of those bowl appearances have come during head coach Frank Solich’s 11 years in Athens.

1973-2004 2005-15
Seasons 32 11
Coaches 7 1
Wins Per Year 3.7 7.3
Record 119-228 80-61
Winning Seasons 7 7
Bowl Appearances 0 7
Bowl Wins 0 2

MAC leading attendance 21,323 up 800 per game.

AMONG THE BEST IN THE MAC
Ohio’s 76 wins since 2006 are the second most victories by any school in the Mid-American Conference during that period. Northern Illinois is the only school that has more wins.
1. Northern Illinois - 87
2. Ohio - 76
3. Central Michigan - 70

2014 vs 2015 Wins 8 vs 6, up 33%. Quality wins vs 10-3 bowl winning Marshall, 8-5 bowl winning Akron & 8-5 MAC West Champion & bowl team NIU.

Statistics 2014 vs 2015.
Scoring. 2014 Ohio/OPP 246/298, 2015 Ohio/OPP 358/329.
Points Per Game. 2014 Ohio/OPP 20.5/24.8, 2015 Ohio/OPP 27.5/25.3
First Downs. 2014 Ohio/OPP 233/246, 2015 Ohio/OPP 285/248
Rushing Yards. 2014 Ohio/OPP 1969/1595, 2015 Ohio/OPP 2352/2147
Passing Yards. 2014 Ohio/OPP 2474/3137, 2015 Ohio/OPP 3026/2723
Total Offense. 2014 Ohio/OPP 4443/4732, 2015 Ohio/OPP 5378/4910
Fumbles-Lost. 2014 Ohio Fumbles/Lost 24/14, 2015 Ohio Fumbles/Lost 9/4
Time of Possession. 2014 Ohio/OPP 29:48/30:12, 2015 Ohio/OPP 32:15/27:44
First Half Scoring. 2014 Ohio/OPP 115/169. 2015 Ohio/OPP 214/139
Average Attendance. Ohio 2014/2015 20515/21323

2015 Ohio better than opponent: Scoring, Points Per Game, First Downs, Rushing Yards, Passing Yards,Total Offense, Time of Possession, First Half Scoring.

In the past four seasons, the Bobcats have had 31 Academic All-MAC selections. He has also had two seasons where an Ohio player has been named a semifinalist for the Draddy Trophy, one of the most prestigious academic honors in college football. Academic success is nothing new for Solich’s teams. While head coach at Nebraska, almost 90 percent of his student-athletes earned their degree. Seven times Huskers earned first-team CoSIDA Academic All-America honors and on four other occasions, second-team honors were bestowed.

Last Edited: 6/3/2016 3:12:34 PM by Bcat2

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 6/3/2016 3:22:28 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Recruited? Or actually landed?

Are we now giving credit for merely recruiting a young man, without actually being able to bring him on??

Monroe, congratulations. Another thread successfully hijacked.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 6/3/2016 6:54:15 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

So, you're saying that we never actually landed him (brought in and had him on the team)?

Would this be akin to judging this coaching staff on its accomplishments instead of projections?

The coaches did all they could, and successfully recruited him. Unfortunately he didn't do his part, and didn't get eligible. Then the coaches once again did their part, and helped place him in JUCO. Once there, he got other offers, and ended up somewhere else. The point here is that the coaches identified a good player, and recruited him successfully, but for reasons beyond their control, it did not work out.

They also have recruited some other very fine backs who did qualify academically, and I think Ohio is loaded at that position at the moment. I think we're going to see very good years from AJ, Irons, and Dorian Brown this year.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 6/3/2016 9:53:15 PM

L.C. wrote:

Monroe Slavin wrote:

So, you're saying that we never actually landed him (brought in and had him on the team)?

Would this be akin to judging this coaching staff on its accomplishments instead of projections?

Why don't we just erect the statue outside of Peden or Cutler Hall to Solich and his recruiters right now, then, for their tremendous record of bringing in recruits and winning MAC titles.

You can keep on writing really posts in great volume and length--really, you can--but it does nothing to abate the fact that Solich and staff are mediocre....until such time as results on the field prove differently.

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 6/3/2016 9:58:17 PM

Bcat2 wrote:

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Recruited? Or actually landed?

Are we now giving credit for merely recruiting a young man, without actually being able to bring him on??

Monroe, congratulations. Another thread successfully hijacked.

Congratulations. Your record of irrational support of this coaching staff and posts about 100% devoid of facts, reasoning and logic is intact.

Which of these terrific performances from last year did you like best: loss to WMU 49-14, loss to Buffalo 41-17, or loss to BGSU 62-24.

Of course, you can join other poster in paroxysms of joy at how the O-line really started clicking in the 2nd half of that BGSU game. That's what matters; a 62-24 loss in no way dims the luster of this staff.

Keep being weird, my man. Stay weird.

Last Edited: 6/3/2016 9:58:42 PM by Monroe Slavin

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RE: 2013 RB Chris Carson (Lilburn Parkview HS, GA) - Ohio Commit

Posted: 9/10/2017 5:16:31 PM

Getting some run for Seattle. I knew the name sounded familiar.

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