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Topic: Cowherd tells why

Topic: Cowherd tells why

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Monroe Slavin
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Cowherd tells why

Posted: 2/1/2016 8:45:17 PM

You may not respect Cowherd or Rome.

But I find that they're smart and terrific entertainers. I doubt that they'd have strong national shows if they didn't have strong followings convinced that they made sense.

Today, Cowherd led with what he'd tell recruits: Go to a winner. You can't expect to alone change the culture (winning status, etc) of a program. Better to go where winning big is already ingrained.

How many times I gotta tell you that what we have for 11 years is not likely to change. Recruiting is not likely to bring game-changers.

Where's the band?!
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RE: Cowherd tells why

Posted: 2/2/2016 9:21:40 AM

Boy, that Cowherd IS a genius! I'm sure he's the first person who thought of that. (btw, Sports talk radio is a scourge on our times exceeded only by mayonnaise and country music, and Jim Rome is definitely a big reason. God I wish no one had interfered when Jim Everett tried to rip his head off.)

That's what coaches at winning programs already say, I guarantee it. Coaches at "building" programs have to say something else. Do they try to convince a single player he's a culture changer? I highly doubt that. It's up the to the coach to convince the recruit that the culture is already changed/ing and that wins are next. Come be a part of it.

Granted, college football is a monolith, but things do change over time. Baylor and Oregon are national powers. TCU is a national power. Pitt and Penn State are pretty much irrelevant on the national scene. Coaches trying to change a culture have plenty of ammo and smart kids make good choices for themselves.

L.C.
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RE: Cowherd tells why

Posted: 2/2/2016 10:28:03 AM

This is no doubt a part of why recruiting has improved so slowly, slower than we all had hoped and expected, and also why so many coaches are unable to turn losing programs around. Solich was able to do the one thing that keeps so many programs from turning the corner, however - he won with the players he had. Over the last decade, using lower tier players and walkons, he has turned Ohio into a program that expects to win every year, and to go to a bowl game every year. As a result, recruiting has finally improved, and Ohio has been getting significantly better recruits the last 3-4 years.

We will get an interesting chance this fall to see how much difference recruiting actually makes. The team this fall will be made up primarily of players from those improved classes. 2016 will be the first times where Ohio will be playing with a team made up of top-half of the MAC recruits. Will it matter? Monroe thinks no, recruiting doesn't matter, but I disagree, and I think it will make a significant difference, which is why I have projected that this will be his best team yet.

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

Robert Fox
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RE: Cowherd tells why

Posted: 2/2/2016 11:35:10 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

I just wonder if you'll own your analysis at the end of the 2016 season, or will you claim the team won "despite" Solich? And by the way, Solich ain't going anywhere through the end of the 2016 season, so will you grace us with a reprieve from your "fire Solich" mantra for the next 10 months? Maybe let this thing play out and see how things progress? Or will you continue to bash this dead horse, determined to make every BA visitor know where you stand on the issue (as though there is anyone left who doesn't already know)?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Monroe Slavin
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RE: Cowherd tells why

Posted: 2/2/2016 11:42:04 PM

No, I will not be silent in the face of proven mediocre results.

Why would anyone?

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