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Downs & another Koons "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top ytownbobcat General User Member Since: 8/7/2006 Post Count: 1,253 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 2/24/2015 12:08:13 AM  It seems the greater Athens area has been producing good teams and players. I am all for building our brand in the surrounding area. Very low risk with lots of upside. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,064 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 2/24/2015 10:25:25 AM  One big benefit from college football is that it helps to bridge the town-gown divide. The influx of walkons from Athens and surrounding communities is a positive sign. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/9/2015 1:42:31 PM  L.C. wrote: One big benefit from college football is that it helps to bridge the town-gown divide. The influx of walkons from Athens and surrounding communities is a positive sign. +1 The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Jeff Johnson General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 176 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/9/2015 5:47:33 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: L.C. wrote: One big benefit from college football is that it helps to bridge the town-gown divide. The influx of walkons from Athens and surrounding communities is a positive sign. +1 As an alumnus of both Trimble HS and Ohio University, and a long time friend and acquaintance of both the Koons and Downs families, I am especially gratified to see these young men get an opportunity to show that local players can compete at the highest level of college football, in spite of the disadvantages of playing in the lowest divisions of Ohio HS athletics. I also agree that having local players on the team will increase interest in Ohio Football among the local population. Jeff Johnson '67, Albuquerque, New Mexico Back in the Land of Enchantment Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/10/2015 12:00:51 AM  Correct me if I'm wrong, Jeff, but wouldn't you be a graduate of Glouster High School? The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Jeff Johnson General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 176 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/10/2015 8:53:40 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, Jeff, but wouldn't you be a graduate of Glouster High School? No. I graduated from Jacksonville-Trimble High School (AKA Trimble Township HS, or J-T)) in 1963. In 1964, the Trimble Township School District was merged with the Glouster Exempted Village School District to form the current Trimble School District. The high school was first located in the old Glouster High School building, until it was condemned, (I think it continued to be called Glouster High School), then moved temporarily to Jacksonville in a new building originally intended to be a grade school. It was moved back to Glouster when the new high school building was built, but retained the name Trimble High School ever since. Both J-T and Glouster graduates (as well as graduates/students of Hollister and Greens Run High Schools) are considered alumni of Trimble. Jeff Johnson '67, Albuquerque, New Mexico Back in the Land of Enchantment Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/10/2015 9:15:01 PM  Jeff, thanks for the history lesson. I had thought that the merger occurred a little later than I guess it did. I remember as a kid in the 1950s that there was a Glouster High School. Do you know what year the name Glouster High School ceased to be used and the name Trimble or Jacksonville-Trimble High School was used? The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Jeff Johnson General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 176 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/11/2015 1:38:30 AM  OhioCatFan wrote: Jeff, thanks for the history lesson. I had thought that the merger occurred a little later than I guess it did. I remember as a kid in the 1950s that there was a Glouster High School. Do you know what year the name Glouster High School ceased to be used and the name Trimble or Jacksonville-Trimble High School was used? Jacksonville-Trimble (J-T) and Glouster were separate high schools from their establishment until the fall of 1964 (Glouster was older...not sure when the schools were actually established). My Dad graduated from J-T in 1941, so I'm guessing J-T HS was established some time in the 1930's. Prior to 1964, Glouster was an "exempted village" school district (whatever the hell that meant, as was Nelsonville) which was limited mostly to the corporation limits of Glouster, although some students from the Burr Oak area attended Glouster schools. The Trimble Township district covered all the rest of the township plus a small area of Ames Township east of Trimble. After the consolidation in 1964, I think the high school continued to be called Glouster High School until it was moved to Jacksonville, when the name Trimble High School was adopted (not sure what year that was, but it was after my sister graduated in 1974). Even after the high school was returned to Glouster they continued to use the name Trimble High School. Jeff Johnson '67, Albuquerque, New Mexico Back in the Land of Enchantment Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/11/2015 11:45:13 AM  Why do people keep inferring that local kids do not get opportunities? Local kids that can play are finding their way onto DI rosters all over the place. Is there as many as Columbus? No, but there is also 1 million fewer people in SE Ohio, but local kids are doing quite well at getting opportunities, and being rewarded based on their skill sets and hard work. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,064 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/11/2015 2:26:40 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: Why do people keep inferring that local kids do not get opportunities? Local kids that can play are finding their way onto DI rosters all over the place. Is there as many as Columbus? No, but there is also 1 million fewer people in SE Ohio, but local kids are doing quite well at getting opportunities, and being rewarded based on their skill sets and hard work. There used to be a poster by the name of "JCW" who argued that SE Ohio produced few quality players, and few Division I athletes. I don't really recall anyone saying that since he left a few years back. I looked through this thread, and didn't see anyone suggesting that here. Perhaps I missed it? “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/11/2015 4:42:46 PM  Jeff, thanks again, I really appreciate this refresher course in Glouster area schools. You have a good handle on this issue. I do have one additional question. Are you sure that Nelsonville was an exempted village school district? I remember that Chauncey-Dover was an exempted village. I thought that Nelsonville was a city school district back in the late '50s and early '60s when I was at Athens High. They were a member of the SEOAL then, and Nelsonville was at that time large enough to be classified as a city under Ohio law. They flirted in and out of this designation over the years. I think they are now classified as a "town." The hierarchy, if I remember correctly, is city, town and village. Glouster is village, I believe. Again, thanks for the information and I enjoy the exchange and learning more about local history. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Jeff Johnson General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 176 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/11/2015 6:52:50 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Jeff, thanks again, I really appreciate this refresher course in Glouster area schools. You have a good handle on this issue. I do have one additional question. Are you sure that Nelsonville was an exempted village school district? I remember that Chauncey-Dover was an exempted village. I thought that Nelsonville was a city school district back in the late '50s and early '60s when I was at Athens High. They were a member of the SEOAL then, and Nelsonville was at that time large enough to be classified as a city under Ohio law. They flirted in and out of this designation over the years. I think they are now classified as a "town." The hierarchy, if I remember correctly, is city, town and village. Glouster is village, I believe. Again, thanks for the information and I enjoy the exchange and learning more about local history. I could be mistaken about Nelsonville as to whether it was a city school district or exempted village district. In any case it was merged with Buchtel-York somewhere along the line to form the present Nelsonville-York school district. In the 1960's and 1970's the State Board of Education forced consolidation of most of the school districts in Athens County. Besides Nelsonville-York and Trimble (J-T and Glouster), Chauncey-Dover and The Plains merged with Athens; Albany, Shade, and Waterloo were consolidated to form Alexander; and Ames-Bern, Rome-Canaan, and Carthage-Troy were merged to form Federal Hocking. As you wrote, in football, Athens and Nelsonville were in the SEOAL; J-T, Chauncey-Dover, and the Plains played in the SEOBL (South Eastern Ohio Buckeye League). Glouster played in the Muskingum Valley Leage (MVL). Those were the only schools in Athens County that fielded football teams. These teams also played basketball in the same leagues. In addition, for basketball and baseball, the Athens County School District (which supervised all the school districts except Athens, Nelsonville, and Glouster), sponsored it's own league (the Athens County League) which had both regular season champions and ran end-of-season tournaments for basketball and baseball, the winners passing on into the state playoff system. Jeff Johnson '67, Albuquerque, New Mexico Back in the Land of Enchantment Back to Top UpSan Bobcat General User Member Since: 8/30/2005 Location: Upper Sandusky, OH Post Count: 3,789 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/11/2015 9:28:40 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Jeff, thanks again, I really appreciate this refresher course in Glouster area schools. You have a good handle on this issue. I do have one additional question. Are you sure that Nelsonville was an exempted village school district? I remember that Chauncey-Dover was an exempted village. I thought that Nelsonville was a city school district back in the late '50s and early '60s when I was at Athens High. They were a member of the SEOAL then, and Nelsonville was at that time large enough to be classified as a city under Ohio law. They flirted in and out of this designation over the years. I think they are now classified as a "town." The hierarchy, if I remember correctly, is city, town and village. Glouster is village, I believe. Again, thanks for the information and I enjoy the exchange and learning more about local history. In Ohio, cities are 5,000 or more. Villages are less. Town is a generic word that can be anything. Nelsonville increased to city status in the 2000 census after quite a few decades of being a village (it previously was a city). However, I'm not sure that any of this applies to the name of school districts. For example, Upper Sandusky is a city, but it is an exempted village school district. I'm not sure why or how this applies. It may go back to when it was formed. I do know that both "city school" and "exempted village school" districts are not under the authority of a county school board, where as a "local school" district is. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/11/2015 11:37:14 PM  L.C. wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Why do people keep inferring that local kids do not get opportunities? Local kids that can play are finding their way onto DI rosters all over the place. Is there as many as Columbus? No, but there is also 1 million fewer people in SE Ohio, but local kids are doing quite well at getting opportunities, and being rewarded based on their skill sets and hard work. There used to be a poster by the name of "JCW" who argued that SE Ohio produced few quality players, and few Division I athletes. I don't really recall anyone saying that since he left a few years back. I looked through this thread, and didn't see anyone suggesting that here. Perhaps I missed it? LC, it's comments like "glad to see these players get a chance to show that local kids can compete at the highest level", and a few others like that, as I said, post that "infer". Right now there are 4 kids at Big 10 schools from the SE District, and handful playing at mid majors, the area is as strong as its ever been. Maybe not the number of Columbus as I stated, but a much smaller sample size to draw from. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/13/2015 10:08:46 PM  Jeff Johnson wrote: . . . .In addition, for basketball and baseball, the Athens County School District (which supervised all the school districts except Athens, Nelsonville, and Glouster), sponsored it's own league (the Athens County League) which had both regular season champions and ran end-of-season tournaments for basketball and baseball, the winners passing on into the state playoff system. I remember some Athens County League Tournaments at Grover in the early '60s. One game that Albany won kind of sticks in my head. It was a very close game that Albany pulled out in the end with good foul shooting. I'm not sure who the opponent was, but I think it might have been that school located in Glouster! ;-) I always thought that was a very nice tournament -- well played games and lots of good rivalries. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Jeff Johnson General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 176 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/14/2015 9:42:36 AM  OhioCatFan wrote: Jeff Johnson wrote: . . . .In addition, for basketball and baseball, the Athens County School District (which supervised all the school districts except Athens, Nelsonville, and Glouster), sponsored it's own league (the Athens County League) which had both regular season champions and ran end-of-season tournaments for basketball and baseball, the winners passing on into the state playoff system. I remember some Athens County League Tournaments at Grover in the early '60s. One game that Albany won kind of sticks in my head. It was a very close game that Albany pulled out in the end with good foul shooting. I'm not sure who the opponent was, but I think it might have been that school located in Glouster! ;-) I always thought that was a very nice tournament -- well played games and lots of good rivalries. If it was between 1961 and 1963, I played in that tournament, and it would have been Jacksonville-Trimble (probably billed as Trimble by that time), not Glouster. If it was in Grover, that would have been in 1962 or 1963, as the tournament was held in the old Men's Gymnasium (now Bentley Hall) through 1961, I believe. I don't remember the specific game, but I do remember in 1963 we came close to knocking off one of the tournament favorites in spite of the fact that we had a lousy season. Jeff Johnson '67, Albuquerque, New Mexico Back in the Land of Enchantment Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/15/2015 9:05:10 PM  Some great basketball being played the past two weeks and the coming week promises to be just as good. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/25/2015 9:06:33 AM  Jeff, the only thing I remember about that game was that the winning team (I think it was Albany) had this bowlegged played who kept getting to the foul line at the end of the game an he made nearly every foul shot. He had the funniest looking foul shot as he crouched down on his bowlegs and then came back up as he released the ball. That sound familiar at all? The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Jeff Johnson General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Post Count: 176 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/25/2015 11:44:43 AM  OhioCatFan wrote: Jeff, the only thing I remember about that game was that the winning team (I think it was Albany) had this bowlegged played who kept getting to the foul line at the end of the game an he made nearly every foul shot. He had the funniest looking foul shot as he crouched down on his bowlegs and then came back up as he released the ball. That sound familiar at all? Sorry, I don't remember such a player for Albany...but then after 50+ years, my memories of those games are a bit hazy. :( Jeff Johnson '67, Albuquerque, New Mexico Back in the Land of Enchantment Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 3/25/2015 11:10:36 PM  Jeff Johnson wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: Jeff, the only thing I remember about that game was that the winning team (I think it was Albany) had this bowlegged played who kept getting to the foul line at the end of the game and he made nearly every foul shot. He had the funniest looking foul shot as he crouched down on his bowlegs and then came back up as he released the ball. That sound familiar at all? Sorry, I don't remember such a player for Albany...but then after 50+ years, my memories of those games are a bit hazy. :( I understand, as this is stretching my memory, too. It's funny the little things like this bowlegged player's foul shots that you remember, but not the details of the game or even who the opponent was for sure. I suppose if he hadn't looked so strange shooting foul shots, I might not remember the game at all. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Kinggeorge4 General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Guysville, OH Post Count: 964 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 4/16/2015 3:03:33 PM  Any truth to the rumors that Downs may actually play this upcoming season instead of waiting until next season (grayshirt) GO BOBCATS GEORGE Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: Trimble, More Preferred Walk-Ons    Posted: 4/16/2015 3:22:32 PM  His invite to camp will be all about the numbers. 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