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Topic:  Rank by Offers rates Ohio #1 in MAC
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UpSan Bobcat
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  Message Not Read  Rank by Offers rates Ohio #1 in MAC
   Posted: 2/9/2015 10:15:56 PM 
http://www.rankbyoffers.com/2015fbteams/

This website, rather than looking at recruiting service ratings, evaluates classes based on the offers of the players who signed. It says Ohio's class is the best in the MAC. I think it goes by offers listed by ESPN and Rivals only, so there could be some inaccuracies that way, but it has some interesting information.
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OUBobcat13
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rank by Offers rates Ohio #1 in MAC
   Posted: 2/10/2015 7:50:23 AM 
This is a really interesting site. I'm a bit surprised our offer value to be higher than Purdue.
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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rank by Offers rates Ohio #1 in MAC
   Posted: 2/10/2015 7:53:57 AM 
Yes, that's the same basic methodology that I used to rank the recruiting classes in this thread:
http://tinyurl.com/modaph7

I definitely think that this is a better way to rank recruits, especially for G5 recruits. Analysts spend a lot of time ranking the 4-5 star recruits, and very little on 2-star recruits, so for the traditional services, the accuracy drops as they move down to the lower recruits. Meanwhile, a coach that is considering making an offer will spend a lot of time looking at a recruit because he's not just assigning an arbitrary number, he has to put his money where his mouth is.

Their method is more sophisticated in that they used a sliding scale for the weighting to assign to an offer from a specific team, whereas I used a simple split, 3 points for P5, 1 point for G5, no points for FCS. On the other hand, my method had a significant advantage in that I used the offer information from 247Sports, Rivals, and ESPN, while they used only Rivals and ESPN. The problems is that Rivals data is somewhat incomplete for G5 recruits, and ESPN's data is very, very incomplete for G5 recruits. The two most complete sources of information on G5 offers is probably Scout.com and 247Sports, neither of which they used.

My end result was pretty close to theirs. They rank Buffalo worse than I do, and NIU and Ball State much higher, but otherwise most are in the same general area. Their ranking:
#78 Ohio
# 82 WMU
#83 Toledo
#88 NIU
#91 BG
#93 Miami
#94 Kent
#104 Ball State
#106 EMU
#111 Buffalo
#115 UMass
#124 CMU
#126 Akron

My ranking:
4.67 WMU
4.57 Ohio
4.27 Toledo
4.00 Kent
3.75 BG
3.16 Buffalo
2.86 Miami
2.30 NIU
2.12 U.Mass
1.56 EMU
1.31 Akron
1.04 Ball State
0.50 CMU

In any case, looking at the recruiting this way confirms the general impression that I think most of us have, that this is not a run of the mill, middle of the MAC recruiting class.

Last Edited: 2/10/2015 8:01:56 AM by L.C.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

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Ohio69
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   Posted: 2/10/2015 8:32:17 AM 

I always look to see who else offered guys we sign. Seems to be a great way to gage a players value.

AJ Oullette probably disagrees however. :)

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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Bcat2
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   Posted: 2/10/2015 8:36:36 AM 
The proof will be in the pudding. How many will report in the fall? How many will stay to graduate? Recruiting services need to self assess and report.

"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK

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Pennsylvaniacat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rank by Offers rates Ohio #1 in MAC
   Posted: 2/19/2015 10:34:56 PM 
BCat2 nails it. After watching the snippets and scouring the internet, I do believe this is the most athletic class I have seen since Frank began to steady the ship. If guys show up and stay healthy....well I don't want to jinx it.

Last Edited: 2/19/2015 11:26:36 PM by Pennsylvaniacat
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