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Topic: Remaining needs?

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The Optimist
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Remaining needs?

Posted: 9/8/2014 7:06:21 PM

Based on the guys we have already got verbals from, what do we need for the next class?

I think we have a great core and have addressed some obvious areas where signing someone was necessary. Overall, I would like to see the remaining spots going to the best possible players. The one position I think we need at least one of is CB. We have some safeties in this class, but with all the Senior CB's next year, I'd like some freshman coming in next year so they are more prepared to contribute in two years.
I think safety (where we already have two) is the best chance to play next year.
With our lack of explosiveness on offense, I would love some more speed.

Last Edited: 9/8/2014 7:07:00 PM by The Optimist

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L.C.
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RE: Remaining needs?

Posted: 9/8/2014 8:07:44 PM

My #1 need position is DT. Crutcher, Davis, and McLeod are Seniors, and Tautuiaki is a Junior. After next year, I guess Porter and Aloese will start, and I guess Arp can back up one DT, but who will back up the other one? Some true freshman or JUCO to be named later, I guess. And, if there are injuries?

Using Ted's recruiting page data, and looking at everyone except current Seniors and Juniors, plus adding in this year's recruits, and thus projecting what 2016 will look like, you have:

Scholarships Positions Ratio
QB 4 1 4.00
RB 5 1 5.00
WR 11 2.5 4.40
TE 4 1.5 2.67 <=== low
OL 12 5 2.40 <=== low
Off tot 36 11 3.27

DT 3 2 1.50 <=== very low
DE 7 2 3.50
MLB 3 1 3.00 (moving Poling)
OLB 5 2 2.50
CB 4 2 2.00 <=== low
S 6 2 3.00
Def Tot 28 11 2.54

Ohio is very heavy at the moment in the offensive playmaker group, particularly WR and RB, and on the low side on both lines. Corner is also a little low, but it's a lot easier for a freshman to come in and play at corner than on the line, plus, as we've seen the injury rate tends to be higher on the line.

Last Edited: 9/8/2014 8:09:20 PM by L.C.

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RE: Remaining needs?

Posted: 9/8/2014 9:12:48 PM

Agree totally...not possible to have a surplus of destructive defensive linemen, espec tackles.

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RE: Remaining needs?

Posted: 9/8/2014 9:15:50 PM

The way we lose OL guys......we can never have enough.

C Money
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RE: Remaining needs?

Posted: 9/8/2014 10:00:25 PM

I have a feeling we'll lose some of those RBs and WRs to transfer. Too many bodies and not enough playing time to go around.

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RE: Remaining needs?

Posted: 9/8/2014 11:23:22 PM

As far as WR and RB, I think it's good to keep adding at least one each per class. Otherwise, down the road the surplus becomes a shortage. It's also possible to convert some to CB or S, sometimes.

Last Edited: 9/9/2014 7:20:52 AM by L.C.

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Casper71
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RE: Remaining needs?

Posted: 9/9/2014 11:53:10 AM

Uh, we ALWAYS need more O and D linemen. that is where it starts too. Like I've said before it would be nice to have adequate bodies on BOTH the lines at the same time. Just when the O-line appears to be getting better, the D-line appears to be headed south after this year.

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RE: Remaining needs?

Posted: 9/9/2014 7:00:12 PM

I guess there is also the walkon, Stephens, at DT, and supposedly he looked pretty good before he injured his knee.
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Last Edited: 9/9/2014 7:04:49 PM by L.C.

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RE: Remaining needs?

Posted: 9/11/2014 3:29:49 PM

Am I reading that chart correctly? Ohio only has 4 corners, but 6 safeties? So basically, 10 players for four/five/six positions on the field, depending on the alignment of regular/nickel/dime? Those numbers seem awfully low. Safeties I guess is ok, 3 per spot, but combined with the corners that seems like a thin defensive backfield.

In reality, I'd like to see the OL more like 15-18 if possible. Way too many WRs from what I see, although I will be honest not knowing their class level. I don't think the number of TEs is low, depending on what kind of offense Ohio would like to have on a yearly basis. Four is a good starting point in that you can still have 2-TE sets and maybe a 3-TE goal line set while giving the 4th guy a RS.

Last Edited: 9/11/2014 3:30:37 PM by GoCats105

L.C.
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RE: Remaining needs?

Posted: 9/11/2014 6:15:58 PM

GoCats105 wrote:

Am I reading that chart correctly? Ohio only has 4 corners, but 6 safeties? ...

These are the number of players currently on scholarship, or who have verballed, that will still be on the roster in 2016. There will also be another class of true freshmen in the 2016 class that will be added to these numbers, which is why the total is only about 61 or so. Some of the 2016 class will probably be JUCOs, so they could add a couple JUCO defensive tackles in the 2016 class, and still have good depth there.

Last Edited: 9/11/2014 6:16:43 PM by L.C.

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RE: Remaining needs?

Posted: 9/12/2014 4:31:40 PM

If memory serves, wasn't stalwart-seeming D-tackle Trae Clark in line to come to us next season out of JUCO ?? That'd be a big boost.

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RE: Remaining needs?

Posted: 9/13/2014 10:10:24 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

If memory serves, wasn't stalwart-seeming D-tackle Trae Clark in line to come to us next season out of JUCO ?? That'd be a big boost.

Because our D is good but can't get to reeeeally good until we have at least one D-tackle who is destructive, who just corrupts what the offense is trying to do. See today vs stupid cow when we got so little from the middle of our D-line. Result: allowed stupid cow to run up the middle for big yards and, thus, too much time to pass.

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RE: Remaining needs?

Posted: 9/19/2014 2:15:03 PM

Beside defensive tackle playmakers, the only other notable need is TE.

Beside DT and TE, there's pretty much reasonable abundance. We can fill every slot but DT and TE somewhat readily.

TE--Give me that tall, somewhat thick guy who has unusual speed for his size and good hands. Simply, a guy who defenses have no easy answer for. Again, it isn't easy to find these guys. But find one and you are in a good way.

Got playmakers at DT and TE--then you're well on the way to having a really good team?!

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