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Topic:  RE: Rigged rankings
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rigged rankings
   Posted: 12/30/2020 9:09:35 AM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
Wake Forest, Duke, Vandy, Miss. State, Rutgers, California, Boston College, Washington State, Arizona, UVA, Syracuse, Purdue and a host of others won't be playing for a national championship either. It doesn't matter that they are in the power five. Those schools play in a larger conference, but they have no chance at winning a title. Sure they play in the ACC, SEC, Big Ten and Pac 12, but they have no shot at winning the big game. Boise State and UCF are in that same boat. The same group of schools are selected year in and year out for the final four teams.


Probably because that same handful of teams are year in and year out the best teams.
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rigged rankings
   Posted: 12/30/2020 9:11:07 AM 
Pataskala wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
The FBS and FCS labels were adopted several years ago in an effort to placate some 1AA schools who didn't like the classification. But if you look at ESPN's website it includes the 1A and 1AA references in several places, such as schedules and standings. I haven't heard of any activist groups who've raised concerns with ESPN.


I'm with you, Pataskala.

Just like it was always Riverfront Stadium, where the Reds won the 1975, 1976, and 1990 World Series even after it was changed to Cinergy Field.

Just like it's always been Gund Arena that replaced Richfield Coliseum even after it was changed to Quicken Loans and then Rocket Mortgage.



I'm sure a lot of Cleveland baseball fans still call their stadium "The Jake" and will continue to use "Indians" and "the Tribe" even after the team's name is changed.

As for college football, the new classifications were meant to distinguish between 1AA's playoff system and 1A's BCS system. But the BCS system has morphed into a playoff, just with fewer teams, so the only real distinction is that a lot fewer 1A teams have a shot at a national championship compared to 1AA teams.


Other distinction might be that the NCAA actually runs the FCS playoffs and the FBS is run by a private entity.
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shabamon
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rigged rankings
   Posted: 12/30/2020 9:20:12 AM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
Wake Forest, Duke, Vandy, Miss. State, Rutgers, California, Boston College, Washington State, Arizona, UVA, Syracuse, Purdue and a host of others won't be playing for a national championship either. It doesn't matter that they are in the power five. Those schools play in a larger conference, but they have no chance at winning a title. Sure they play in the ACC, SEC, Big Ten and Pac 12, but they have no shot at winning the big game. Boise State and UCF are in that same boat. The same group of schools are selected year in and year out for the final four teams.


I don't buy this. If any of those teams can put the dream season together, they'll earn their spot. Kansas got all the way to #2 in 2007, years before the CFP. Had they gone and won the Big 12, they would have been in the natty.
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rigged rankings
   Posted: 12/30/2020 10:55:13 AM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
The FBS and FCS labels were adopted several years ago in an effort to placate some 1AA schools who didn't like the classification. But if you look at ESPN's website it includes the 1A and 1AA references in several places, such as schedules and standings. I haven't heard of any activist groups who've raised concerns with ESPN.


I'm with you, Pataskala.

Just like it was always Riverfront Stadium, where the Reds won the 1975, 1976, and 1990 World Series even after it was changed to Cinergy Field.

Just like it's always been Gund Arena that replaced Richfield Coliseum even after it was changed to Quicken Loans and then Rocket Mortgage.



Exactly and if I go to a Browns home game, it's still Cleveland Stadium.

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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rigged rankings
   Posted: 12/30/2020 11:19:57 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:

I'm with you, Pataskala.

Just like it was always Riverfront Stadium, where the Reds won the 1975, 1976, and 1990 World Series even after it was changed to Cinergy Field.

Just like it's always been Gund Arena that replaced Richfield Coliseum even after it was changed to Quicken Loans and then Rocket Mortgage.

Exactly and if I go to a Browns home game, it's still Cleveland Stadium.



For the people in NJ,it will always be Giants Stadium.



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bobcatsquared
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   Posted: 12/30/2020 11:54:08 AM 
rpbobcat wrote:
For the people in NJ,it will always be Giants Stadium.


Is it Citi Field or Shea Stadium, rpbobcat?

Whenever a plane flies low over one of my son's youth baseball games I'll say that it's like we're playing at Shea Stadium. I don't expect the young ball players to get it, but I have dads look at me with no idea what I'm talking about.
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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rigged rankings
   Posted: 12/30/2020 12:24:10 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
For the people in NJ,it will always be Giants Stadium.


Is it Citi Field or Shea Stadium, rpbobcat?

Whenever a plane flies low over one of my son's youth baseball games I'll say that it's like we're playing at Shea Stadium. I don't expect the young ball players to get it, but I have dads look at me with no idea what I'm talking about.


Citi Field

The planes flying low over Shea Stadium were something.

Last Edited: 12/30/2020 12:25:45 PM by rpbobcat

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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rigged rankings
   Posted: 12/30/2020 1:12:51 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
The FBS and FCS labels were adopted several years ago in an effort to placate some 1AA schools who didn't like the classification. But if you look at ESPN's website it includes the 1A and 1AA references in several places, such as schedules and standings. I haven't heard of any activist groups who've raised concerns with ESPN.


I'm with you, Pataskala.

Just like it was always Riverfront Stadium, where the Reds won the 1975, 1976, and 1990 World Series even after it was changed to Cinergy Field.

Just like it's always been Gund Arena that replaced Richfield Coliseum even after it was changed to Quicken Loans and then Rocket Mortgage.



Exactly and if I go to a Browns home game, it's still Cleveland Stadium.



Not, Municipal Stadium, Al!


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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rigged rankings
   Posted: 1/1/2021 3:49:40 PM 
Cincinnati did not make the mustard today. Would be different if these G5 schools could win the matchups against the 2-5 place P5 schools.
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rigged rankings
   Posted: 1/1/2021 11:46:51 PM 
Some of You guys really nailed this! Clemson proved tonight that if anyone didnít belong, itís the Tigers of Clemson.
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rigged rankings
   Posted: 1/1/2021 11:49:29 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
And then you have this:

SEC teams below .500 going bowling:

ó 2-8 South Carolina (Gasparilla)
ó 4-6 Kentucky (Gator)
ó 3-7 Arkansas (Texas)
ó 3-6 Tennessee (Liberty)
ó 3-7 MissState (Armed Forces)

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/army-bowl-game-college-f...


In the SEC if a team opts out of a bowl they do NOT get their share of the Bowl money. Thatís why you see no SEC schools opting out.
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rigged rankings
   Posted: 1/2/2021 11:04:25 PM 
Man Indiana really made their case today that they should have been in the B10 title game and on the national stage.
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