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Uncle Wes
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  Message Not Read  RE: Back to State College in 2022?
   Posted: 1/27/2019 10:29:06 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Uncle Wes wrote:
You are assuming the gate is the same whether it be FCS or a top tier G5/P5 school. I would argue not only would revenue be higher but also season ticket revenue would be higher with a good non-conference opponent compared to FCS.

I was just trying to give people a rough framework for understanding how the money works as an approximation. People are free to plug in different assumptions, and see how things come out.

Another thing thing that the above model glosses over is that that who you play from a specific group also matters. For example, a "money game" played at Rutgers will pay less than one at Alabama, but Ohio will also have a better chance of winning at Rutgers. In the end, the AD will look are real proposals from actual teams, and try to come up with the best solution. Obviously he want to maximize revenue, maximize wins, and maximize home games, but those goals are mutually exclusive, so the has to find the best combination that he can.

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Jeff McKinney wrote:
Word is Cincinnati has already bought out of their game in Athens. That's why I wanted to beat them so bad in Cincinnati this year.


They bought out a road game that is 2 hours away. What an egotistical decision.

I doubt it was an egotistical decision. More likely it was a monetary one. They have to be feeling the cost pressures as well, especially with the relatively new stadium, and all their coaching changes. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that they bought out the Ohio game in order to replace it with a paid money game.


My direct response was because I was tight for time but yes those variables can be micro analyzed for tier of P5 opponent ect. I don't see a point in scheduling FCS unless the said program in question is regularly second division for its conference and needs a FCS game to pad its probability of becoming bowl eligible. They hit your strength of schedule and nobody wants to see them in the stadium. When you are Duke or Wake Forest its probably a good move or the MAC equivalent Kent or Eastern Michigan.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Back to State College in 2022?
   Posted: 1/27/2019 10:37:33 PM 
Bobcat1996 wrote:
Look for the Bearcats to play someone like Notre Dame for a big pay day rather than travel to Athens.


UC has a 1 for 1 with Western Michigan 2020 (H) and 2020 (A) along with Western Kentucky 2026 (H) and 2025 (A) so if they are canceling our home game we are unfairly singled out. In 2020 UC is playing Austin Peay, WMU, Fiami and Nebraska so hardly a stacked guarantee money schedule.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/cincinnati /


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  Message Not Read  RE: Back to State College in 2022?
   Posted: 1/28/2019 7:17:17 AM 
I've been okay with the program loading up on money games for a few years now. I'm not sure there's much difference between winning eight or nine games versus seven games a season. Either will get you to a bowl, won't affect your MAC positioning and will garner extra money for the athletic department. Plus, they are the kind of games that make alums who don't really pay attention to the program actually watch.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Back to State College in 2022?
   Posted: 1/28/2019 9:14:16 AM 
If it helps keep the coffers full and the program on stronger financial ground, I would be fine with the Cats playing at ____________ B10/SEC/ACC school for a significant payday (upwards of $1 million) than another h/h with UMass etc.


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   Posted: 1/28/2019 10:16:46 AM 
OUcats82 wrote:
If it helps keep the coffers full and the program on stronger financial ground, I would be fine with the Cats playing at ____________ B10/SEC/ACC school for a significant payday (upwards of $1 million) than another h/h with UMass etc.


With interest in college athletics plummeting everywhere including here, this seems to be a necessary step. No?



Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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  Message Not Read  RE: Back to State College in 2022?
   Posted: 1/28/2019 11:51:50 AM 
I'd say most season ticket holders care more about the # of Saturday home games vs overall home games. If you go to only 5 home games but keep 4 of them on Saturday it likely angers fewer people overall as some out of town season ticket folks might prefer that. Of course the MAC office would have to cooperate to make that a reality and their interest is probably in more wins which means more home games not less.
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   Posted: 1/28/2019 4:58:20 PM 
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
I'd say most season ticket holders care more about the # of Saturday home games vs overall home games. If you go to only 5 home games but keep 4 of them on Saturday it likely angers fewer people overall as some out of town season ticket folks might prefer that. Of course the MAC office would have to cooperate to make that a reality and their interest is probably in more wins which means more home games not less.


This is my worry.

The fanbase already has a chip on its shoulder (me included) after the 2018 debacle of only three Saturday home games. It was a joke.

If Ohio goes down to 5 home games .... you might be looking at only 2 or 3 of those on a Saturday.

That would kill the fanbase even more, IMHO.

We didn't even average 20k this year for Saturday games .... and if you're telling me Ohio will play Fordham, Kent and EMU on Saturday at home .... and then ask me to buy season tickets. C'mon. No chance I'm forking out money for that.

Peden will resemble a glorified high school game with the crowds it will draw.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Back to State College in 2022?
   Posted: 1/29/2019 1:31:16 PM 
NIU loaded up with Iowa, Utah, Florida State and BYU. Played Utah tough at home and won at BYU. Finished the regular season 7-5 but still won the MACC and played in a bowl game. Did it cost them at least a win sure but it didn't change how NIU finished in the MAC.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Back to State College in 2022?
   Posted: 1/29/2019 3:47:29 PM 
Uncle Wes wrote:
NIU loaded up with Iowa, Utah, Florida State and BYU. Played Utah tough at home and won at BYU. Finished the regular season 7-5 but still won the MACC and played in a bowl game. Did it cost them at least a win sure but it didn't change how NIU finished in the MAC.


That's difference between NIU and Ohio ... and why I've harped that it would be nice for Ohio to reach the same level NIU is on.

NIU can get Utah, BC, San Diego St, Kansas, Army, Navy, and Kansas last decade to play in Dekalb.

And yes ... they have had a handful of five-game home schedules. But they also struggle to draw on Saturdays even when they're good. So I'm sure they're fine with losing a home game.

Ohio, on the other hand, draws for Saturday home games (or at least did until this year) ... but the highest profile team to wander into Athens in the last decade has been Marshall, UConn and North Texas.

If Ohio would go play schedules like NIU and be competitive ... and win MACC ... I'm sure that would soften the blow of playing only five home games.

But traveling to face New Mexico State, Idaho or Wyoming isn't going to get the fan base excited ... nor will that help you build a national brand like NIU has.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Back to State College in 2022?
   Posted: 1/29/2019 4:51:11 PM 
bshot44 wrote:


NIU can get Utah, BC, San Diego St, Kansas, Army, Navy, and Kansas last decade to play in Dekalb.



And how much did it cost NIU to bring those teams into DeKalb? Whatever it was, I have to imagine its a price that Ohio's current administration is not at all willing to pay.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Back to State College in 2022?
   Posted: 2/4/2019 4:02:47 PM 

UC game moved to 2026. Release today:

ATHENS, Ohio -- Ohio Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Jim Schaus has announced several changes and additions regarding the football program's future schedules.

"I am very pleased and excited about our future non-conference football schedules," said Schaus. "The games provide the right schedule strength, offer a number of quality home opponents for our fans and include some high-profile road games that are in strong alumni areas and provide convenient travel for our Ohio area fans."

Ohio is now slated for a home-and-home series with Syracuse. The Orange will visit Athens on Sept. 4, 2021, and the Bobcats will visit Syracuse on Aug. 31, 2024. Ohio and Syracuse were originally scheduled to play a guarantee game on Sept. 10, 2022. The two programs have not faced off on the gridiron since 1921.

The Bobcats are now set to host in-state foe Cincinnati on Sept. 12, 2026. The contest was originally scheduled to be played on Sept. 11, 2021. Ohio and Cincinnati squared off last season on Sept. 22, 2018, which marked the first meeting between the Bobcats and the Bearcats since the 1981 season.

Ohio will play at Penn State on Sept. 10, 2022. The Bobcats will be visiting Happy Valley for the first time since defeating the Nittany Lions, 24-14, on Sept. 1, 2012, at Beaver Stadium. The 2022 campaign will also see Ohio host Florida Atlantic on Sept. 3 and Fordham on Sept. 24. The Bobcats have never faced the Owls or the Rams. 

In 2023, Ohio will open the season at Peden Stadium on Sept. 2 against Delaware State, visit Florida Atlantic on Sept. 9, 2023 and travel to Rutgers for Sept. 30 matchup. The Bobcats last played the Scarlet Knights in 2011. 

After beginning the 2024 season with the road game at Syracuse, the Bobcats will play host to South Alabama on Sept. 7 in the first-ever meeting between the two programs and travel to Kentucky on Sept. 21. The matchup between the Bobcats and the Wildcats will be the first since Ohio visited Lexington in 2014. Ohio's fourth non-conference game in 2024 will be announced at a later date.

The Bobcats will visit Illinois on Sept. 13, 2025, which will be the first meeting between the two programs since Ohio topped the Fighting Illini, 20-17, on Oct. 14, 2006. Ohio will announce its three other non-conference games for the 2025 season at a later date.

Following the Sept. 12 home game against Cincinnati in 2026, the Bobcats play a road game at South Alabama on Sept. 19. Ohio's two other non-conference games for the 2026 season will be announced at a later date. 

The upcoming 2019 season has the Bobcats slated to open the schedule up with a home game against Rhode Island on Aug. 31, take on Pittsburgh (Sept. 7) and Marshall (Sept. 14) in back-to-back road games and then close non-conference action out with a home game against Louisiana on Sept. 21. The Bobcats will be meeting Rhode Island for the first time. Ohio will battle Pitt for the first time since Sept. 9, 2005, when Ohio knocked off the Panthers in overtime, 16-10, at Peden Stadium. Ohio is set to renew its "Battle for the Bell" rivalry with Marshall, with the Bobcats and the Thundering Herd squaring off for the first time since Sept. 12, 2015 -- a 21-10 win for Ohio. Ohio last visited Huntington on Sept. 13, 2014. The Bobcats lead the all-time series with Marshall, 33-20-6. Ohio will be playing Louisiana for the third time and first time since the Bobcats topped the Ragin' Cajuns, 38-31, on Oct. 30, 2010, at Peden Stadium.

Ohio learned its eight Mid-American Conference opponents for the 2019 season in December. Ohio will play host to MAC East Division rivals Kent State and Miami in addition to games against MAC West Division opponents Northern Illinois and Western Michigan. The Bobcats will visit three East Division rivals next year, with trips to Akron, Bowling Green and Buffalo on the docket. Ohio will travel to Ball State in its only road game that features a West Division opponent.

Over the last 14 years under the leadership of head coach Frank Solich, Ohio has recorded 106 wins, captured four MAC East Division titles, appeared in 10 bowl games and tallied four bowl victories. The Bobcats recorded their second-straight nine-win season in 2018, capping the year off with a 27-0 shutout of San Diego State in the 2018 DXL Frisco Bowl.

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OHIO FOOTBALL ANNOUNCED FUTURE GAMES

2019
Aug. 31 – Rhode Island
Sept. 7 – at Pittsburgh
Sept. 14 – at Marshall
Sept. 21 – Louisiana 

2020
Sept. 5 – Opponent TBD (Home Game)
Sept. 12 – at Boston College
Sept. 19 – Marshall
Sept. 26 – at Texas State 

2021
Sept. 4 – Syracuse
Sept. 11 – Opponent TBD (Home Game)
Sept. 18 – at Louisiana
Sept. 25 – at Northwestern 

2022
Sept. 3 – Florida Atlantic
Sept. 10 – at Penn State
Sept. 17 – at Iowa State
Sept. 24 – Fordham 

2023
Sept. 2 – Delaware State
Sept. 9 – at Florida Atlantic
Sept. 16 – Iowa State
Sept. 30 – at Rutgers 

2024
Aug. 31 – at Syracuse
Sept. 7 – South Alabama
Sept. 21 – at Kentucky

2025
Sept. 13 – at Illinois 

2026
Sept. 12 – Cincinnati
Sept. 19 – at South Alabama


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   Posted: 2/5/2019 10:58:00 AM 
Seems some of the schedule panic here was a tad overblown. What a shocking surprise! ;-)


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   Posted: 2/5/2019 11:02:51 AM 
6 Pack of Jackie O's says Syracuse buys themselves out of that 2021 game in Athens
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   Posted: 2/5/2019 11:07:49 AM 
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
6 Pack of Jackie O's says Syracuse buys themselves out of that 2021 game in Athens


Why do you think that? The only scheduled P5 games that didn't materialize in Athens during the Solich Era were VT and Northwestern, and those were renegotiated at us, not by them. UConn, then a BCS team, came to Athens as scheduled and so did Pitt. Just prior to Solich we had a home game with Iowa State, and a few years before that with Minnesota. Your pessimism seems rooted in something other than realism. What is it?


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   Posted: 2/5/2019 11:54:11 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
6 Pack of Jackie O's says Syracuse buys themselves out of that 2021 game in Athens


Why do you think that? The only scheduled P5 games that didn't materialize in Athens during the Solich Era were VT and Northwestern, and those were renegotiated at us, not by them. UConn, then a BCS team, came to Athens as scheduled and so did Pitt. Just prior to Solich we had a home game with Iowa State, and a few years before that with Minnesota. Your pessimism seems rooted in something other than realism. What is it?


I mean Cincinnati just did it to us (and no, Syracuse didn't happen because Cincinnati "volunteered" to move the game.....why wouldn't a P5 school who seems to have everything coming together do the same thing to us?

And prior to Solich was a different era of football when Power schools did go on the road for those games.
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   Posted: 2/5/2019 12:50:40 PM 
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
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Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
6 Pack of Jackie O's says Syracuse buys themselves out of that 2021 game in Athens


Why do you think that? The only scheduled P5 games that didn't materialize in Athens during the Solich Era were VT and Northwestern, and those were renegotiated at us, not by them. UConn, then a BCS team, came to Athens as scheduled and so did Pitt. Just prior to Solich we had a home game with Iowa State, and a few years before that with Minnesota. Your pessimism seems rooted in something other than realism. What is it?


I mean Cincinnati just did it to us (and no, Syracuse didn't happen because Cincinnati "volunteered" to move the game.....why wouldn't a P5 school who seems to have everything coming together do the same thing to us?

And prior to Solich was a different era of football when Power schools did go on the road for those games.


Ummm...P5 schools continue to come to MAC stadiums. For evidence check the schedules for recent years - as I did with my latest Phil Steele magazine.



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   Posted: 2/5/2019 1:11:34 PM 
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
6 Pack of Jackie O's says Syracuse buys themselves out of that 2021 game in Athens


Why do you think that? The only scheduled P5 games that didn't materialize in Athens during the Solich Era were VT and Northwestern, and those were renegotiated at us, not by them. UConn, then a BCS team, came to Athens as scheduled and so did Pitt. Just prior to Solich we had a home game with Iowa State, and a few years before that with Minnesota. Your pessimism seems rooted in something other than realism. What is it?


I mean Cincinnati just did it to us (and no, Syracuse didn't happen because Cincinnati "volunteered" to move the game.....why wouldn't a P5 school who seems to have everything coming together do the same thing to us?

And prior to Solich was a different era of football when Power schools did go on the road for those games.


Cincinnati isn't a P5 school, and there exists no evidence that they will become one in the near future (unless the Big12 is secretly LATE in expansion plans...color me suspicious of the Big12 doing anything secretly)
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   Posted: 2/5/2019 3:14:44 PM 
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
6 Pack of Jackie O's says Syracuse buys themselves out of that 2021 game in Athens


Why do you think that? The only scheduled P5 games that didn't materialize in Athens during the Solich Era were VT and Northwestern, and those were renegotiated at us, not by them. UConn, then a BCS team, came to Athens as scheduled and so did Pitt. Just prior to Solich we had a home game with Iowa State, and a few years before that with Minnesota. Your pessimism seems rooted in something other than realism. What is it?


I mean Cincinnati just did it to us (and no, Syracuse didn't happen because Cincinnati "volunteered" to move the game.....why wouldn't a P5 school who seems to have everything coming together do the same thing to us?

And prior to Solich was a different era of football when Power schools did go on the road for those games.


Boy, what an institutional low self image. So we are not as good a destination for a P5 school as Akron, WMU or BG, all of whom have hosted P5 schools in the last few years. And those are just from memory. In fact, the Orangemen played AT WMU just this past year, and won a 55-42 shootout. So, the concept of playing in a MAC stadium is not exactly new to them!


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   Posted: 2/5/2019 4:41:55 PM 
Kansas was in Peden Stadium in 2017.


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   Posted: 2/5/2019 7:57:16 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
6 Pack of Jackie O's says Syracuse buys themselves out of that 2021 game in Athens


Why do you think that? The only scheduled P5 games that didn't materialize in Athens during the Solich Era were VT and Northwestern, and those were renegotiated at us, not by them. UConn, then a BCS team, came to Athens as scheduled and so did Pitt. Just prior to Solich we had a home game with Iowa State, and a few years before that with Minnesota. Your pessimism seems rooted in something other than realism. What is it?


I mean Cincinnati just did it to us (and no, Syracuse didn't happen because Cincinnati "volunteered" to move the game.....why wouldn't a P5 school who seems to have everything coming together do the same thing to us?

And prior to Solich was a different era of football when Power schools did go on the road for those games.


Boy, what an institutional low self image. So we are not as good a destination for a P5 school as Akron, WMU or BG, all of whom have hosted P5 schools in the last few years. And those are just from memory. In fact, the Orangemen played AT WMU just this past year, and won a 55-42 shootout. So, the concept of playing in a MAC stadium is not exactly new to them!


Again, all it takes is for our president to say our shortfall needs covered, see if we can turn it into a road game like some schools have done before. You think higher education wants to support athletics?
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   Posted: 2/6/2019 2:49:06 PM 
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
6 Pack of Jackie O's says Syracuse buys themselves out of that 2021 game in Athens


Why do you think that? The only scheduled P5 games that didn't materialize in Athens during the Solich Era were VT and Northwestern, and those were renegotiated at us, not by them. UConn, then a BCS team, came to Athens as scheduled and so did Pitt. Just prior to Solich we had a home game with Iowa State, and a few years before that with Minnesota. Your pessimism seems rooted in something other than realism. What is it?


I mean Cincinnati just did it to us (and no, Syracuse didn't happen because Cincinnati "volunteered" to move the game.....why wouldn't a P5 school who seems to have everything coming together do the same thing to us?

And prior to Solich was a different era of football when Power schools did go on the road for those games.


Boy, what an institutional low self image. So we are not as good a destination for a P5 school as Akron, WMU or BG, all of whom have hosted P5 schools in the last few years. And those are just from memory. In fact, the Orangemen played AT WMU just this past year, and won a 55-42 shootout. So, the concept of playing in a MAC stadium is not exactly new to them!


Again, all it takes is for our president to say our shortfall needs covered, see if we can turn it into a road game like some schools have done before. You think higher education wants to support athletics?


You said Syracuse would "buy themselves out" as though they really think that they are too good to come to Athens. You didn't say anything about us asking to change the contract. I pointed out that they played at WMU just last year. Then you change the subject to our financial situation and whether we will want to change the contract. On that point I would just say since this was just announced in a news release that it probably has the blessing of the upper administration, and they've thought through the financial aspect.


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   Posted: 2/6/2019 2:54:50 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
6 Pack of Jackie O's says Syracuse buys themselves out of that 2021 game in Athens


Why do you think that? The only scheduled P5 games that didn't materialize in Athens during the Solich Era were VT and Northwestern, and those were renegotiated at us, not by them. UConn, then a BCS team, came to Athens as scheduled and so did Pitt. Just prior to Solich we had a home game with Iowa State, and a few years before that with Minnesota. Your pessimism seems rooted in something other than realism. What is it?


I mean Cincinnati just did it to us (and no, Syracuse didn't happen because Cincinnati "volunteered" to move the game.....why wouldn't a P5 school who seems to have everything coming together do the same thing to us?

And prior to Solich was a different era of football when Power schools did go on the road for those games.


Boy, what an institutional low self image. So we are not as good a destination for a P5 school as Akron, WMU or BG, all of whom have hosted P5 schools in the last few years. And those are just from memory. In fact, the Orangemen played AT WMU just this past year, and won a 55-42 shootout. So, the concept of playing in a MAC stadium is not exactly new to them!


Again, all it takes is for our president to say our shortfall needs covered, see if we can turn it into a road game like some schools have done before. You think higher education wants to support athletics?


You said Syracuse would "buy themselves out" as though they really think that they are too good to come to Athens. You didn't say anything about us asking to change the contract. I pointed out that they played at WMU just last year. Then you change the subject to our financial situation and whether we will want to change the contract. On that point I would just say since this was just announced in a news release that it probably has the blessing of the upper administration, and they've thought through the financial aspect.


Apologies, lotta things on the mind lately.

As to this, I just see this collapsing from many different angles. I hope I'm wrong and if I am wrong (feel free to save this post), there will be a Bobcat Attack Tailgate at this game armed with enough Jackie O's to get us to West Virginia via the Hocking courtesy of us.

Off-thread topic, why not a BA Tailgate next year?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Back to State College in 2022?
   Posted: 2/6/2019 3:10:12 PM 
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
6 Pack of Jackie O's says Syracuse buys themselves out of that 2021 game in Athens


Why do you think that? The only scheduled P5 games that didn't materialize in Athens during the Solich Era were VT and Northwestern, and those were renegotiated at us, not by them. UConn, then a BCS team, came to Athens as scheduled and so did Pitt. Just prior to Solich we had a home game with Iowa State, and a few years before that with Minnesota. Your pessimism seems rooted in something other than realism. What is it?


I mean Cincinnati just did it to us (and no, Syracuse didn't happen because Cincinnati "volunteered" to move the game.....why wouldn't a P5 school who seems to have everything coming together do the same thing to us?

And prior to Solich was a different era of football when Power schools did go on the road for those games.


Boy, what an institutional low self image. So we are not as good a destination for a P5 school as Akron, WMU or BG, all of whom have hosted P5 schools in the last few years. And those are just from memory. In fact, the Orangemen played AT WMU just this past year, and won a 55-42 shootout. So, the concept of playing in a MAC stadium is not exactly new to them!


Again, all it takes is for our president to say our shortfall needs covered, see if we can turn it into a road game like some schools have done before. You think higher education wants to support athletics?


You said Syracuse would "buy themselves out" as though they really think that they are too good to come to Athens. You didn't say anything about us asking to change the contract. I pointed out that they played at WMU just last year. Then you change the subject to our financial situation and whether we will want to change the contract. On that point I would just say since this was just announced in a news release that it probably has the blessing of the upper administration, and they've thought through the financial aspect.


Apologies, lotta things on the mind lately.

As to this, I just see this collapsing from many different angles. I hope I'm wrong and if I am wrong (feel free to save this post), there will be a Bobcat Attack Tailgate at this game armed with enough Jackie O's to get us to West Virginia via the Hocking courtesy of us.

Off-thread topic, why not a BA Tailgate next year?


Apology accepted.

In terms of a BA tailgate, Gman is already planning one for an early season game -- probably the first home game. I'll let Gman speak for himself, though.


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   Posted: 2/6/2019 3:33:49 PM 
Ted Thompson wrote:
Kansas was in Peden Stadium in 2017.


And it took only 5 minutes with Phil Steele's annual College Football Preview to jot down the following:

P5 teams at MAC stadiums during the past 5 seasons:

2014
Missouri at Toledo
Syracuse at CMU
Baylor at Buffalo
Indiana at BG

2015
Oklahoma State at CMU
Pitt at Akron

2017
Boston College at NIU
Kansas at Ohio
Iowa State at Akron

2018
Utah at NIU
Miami at Toledo
Syracuse at WMU
Kansas at CMU
Maryland at BG



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  Message Not Read  RE: Back to State College in 2022?
   Posted: 2/7/2019 10:44:53 PM 
Big money game for NIU, they'll get 1.5 million to be beat up by that team up North. Why can't OU play O$U I'd be fine giving back all the money if Rufus could talk Brutus again

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