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   Posted: 12/6/2017 5:28:21 PM 
Truly, I was just kidding. I don't dislike the Meigs Co. Black (or was that gold, hmmm?), rather, I just prefer two dozen other beers there. The imperial stouts are my preference, especially with red meat. It's like having a good, big red wine with a steak (to me).
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   Posted: 12/6/2017 6:04:46 PM 
OU_Country wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
Come on guys even our friend Monroe rarely stooped to junior high playground name calling. You can tell when we hit that "between season" - between our last real football game and our first real basketball game. With 15 work days left at most for many of in 2017, let's focus on the important things in life like getting the good guy elected in Alabama.


And the delicious steaks! Let's not forget those. GoCats105 had the best idea I've seen in this thread with those steaks.

(I'm imagining one right now with a glass of J.O's Oil of Aphrodite)


This sounds like perfection! I’ve never had Jackie O’s Oil of Aphrodite, but with a name like that it must be good!

Edit: I myself like a pale ale with grilled red meats. Although at this time of year, I find that Great Lakes X Mas Ale pares quite nicely with steak! 😉

Last Edited: 12/6/2017 6:08:26 PM by Mark Lembright '85
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   Posted: 12/6/2017 9:59:31 PM 
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
Come on guys even our friend Monroe rarely stooped to junior high playground name calling. You can tell when we hit that "between season" - between our last real football game and our first real basketball game. With 15 work days left at most for many of in 2017, let's focus on the important things in life like getting the good guy elected in Alabama.


And the delicious steaks! Let's not forget those. GoCats105 had the best idea I've seen in this thread with those steaks.

(I'm imagining one right now with a glass of J.O's Oil of Aphrodite)


This sounds like perfection! I’ve never had Jackie O’s Oil of Aphrodite, but with a name like that it must be good!

Edit: I myself like a pale ale with grilled red meats. Although at this time of year, I find that Great Lakes X Mas Ale pares quite nicely with steak! 😉



Xmas Ale goes well with anything ... even losses at Akron & Buffalo!
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   Posted: 12/7/2017 6:40:25 AM 
bshot44 wrote:
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
Come on guys even our friend Monroe rarely stooped to junior high playground name calling. You can tell when we hit that "between season" - between our last real football game and our first real basketball game. With 15 work days left at most for many of in 2017, let's focus on the important things in life like getting the good guy elected in Alabama.


And the delicious steaks! Let's not forget those. GoCats105 had the best idea I've seen in this thread with those steaks.

(I'm imagining one right now with a glass of J.O's Oil of Aphrodite)


This sounds like perfection! I’ve never had Jackie O’s Oil of Aphrodite, but with a name like that it must be good!

Edit: I myself like a pale ale with grilled red meats. Although at this time of year, I find that Great Lakes X Mas Ale pares quite nicely with steak! 😉



Xmas Ale goes well with anything ... even losses at Akron & Buffalo!


Its really nice that we can now get Great Lakes,including Christmas Ale throughout northern New Jersey.

The one Pub my wife and I to all the time has their keg of Christmas Ale ready to go.
They just have to decide when they're gonna tap it.
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   Posted: 12/7/2017 9:26:51 AM 
rpbobcat wrote:
bshot44 wrote:
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
Come on guys even our friend Monroe rarely stooped to junior high playground name calling. You can tell when we hit that "between season" - between our last real football game and our first real basketball game. With 15 work days left at most for many of in 2017, let's focus on the important things in life like getting the good guy elected in Alabama.


And the delicious steaks! Let's not forget those. GoCats105 had the best idea I've seen in this thread with those steaks.

(I'm imagining one right now with a glass of J.O's Oil of Aphrodite)


This sounds like perfection! I’ve never had Jackie O’s Oil of Aphrodite, but with a name like that it must be good!

Edit: I myself like a pale ale with grilled red meats. Although at this time of year, I find that Great Lakes X Mas Ale pares quite nicely with steak! 😉



Xmas Ale goes well with anything ... even losses at Akron & Buffalo!


Its really nice that we can now get Great Lakes,including Christmas Ale throughout northern New Jersey.

The one Pub my wife and I to all the time has their keg of Christmas Ale ready to go.
They just have to decide when they're gonna tap it.



If you like Great Lakes Christmas Ale, go find some of these, that I think are better:

-Brew Kettle Winter Warmer
-Southern Tier 2Xmas
-Thirsty Dog - 12 Dogs of Christmas
-Troeg's Mad Elf (beware though, it's something like 13%)
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   Posted: 12/7/2017 10:30:26 AM 
Meigs County Black is easily my favorite Jackie O's. Its hard to find a good black IPA (or any black IPA), but that is a fabulous one.
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   Posted: 12/7/2017 10:44:30 AM 
OU_Country wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
bshot44 wrote:
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
Come on guys even our friend Monroe rarely stooped to junior high playground name calling. You can tell when we hit that "between season" - between our last real football game and our first real basketball game. With 15 work days left at most for many of in 2017, let's focus on the important things in life like getting the good guy elected in Alabama.


And the delicious steaks! Let's not forget those. GoCats105 had the best idea I've seen in this thread with those steaks.

(I'm imagining one right now with a glass of J.O's Oil of Aphrodite)


This sounds like perfection! I’ve never had Jackie O’s Oil of Aphrodite, but with a name like that it must be good!

Edit: I myself like a pale ale with grilled red meats. Although at this time of year, I find that Great Lakes X Mas Ale pares quite nicely with steak! 😉



Xmas Ale goes well with anything ... even losses at Akron & Buffalo!


Its really nice that we can now get Great Lakes,including Christmas Ale throughout northern New Jersey.

The one Pub my wife and I to all the time has their keg of Christmas Ale ready to go.
They just have to decide when they're gonna tap it.



If you like Great Lakes Christmas Ale, go find some of these, that I think are better:

-Brew Kettle Winter Warmer
-Southern Tier 2Xmas
-Thirsty Dog - 12 Dogs of Christmas
-Troeg's Mad Elf (beware though, it's something like 13%)


New Belgium Accumulation is pretty damn good.
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   Posted: 12/7/2017 11:50:25 AM 
OU_Country wrote:


If you like Great Lakes Christmas Ale, go find some of these, that I think are better:

-Brew Kettle Winter Warmer
-Southern Tier 2Xmas
-Thirsty Dog - 12 Dogs of Christmas
-Troeg's Mad Elf (beware though, it's something like 13%)


Thanks for the suggestions.
By the way,do the beer comments constitute "hijacking" this thread ?

It doesn't look like Brew Kettle or Thirsty Dog are available in this area.

I will try and get Southern Tier.

As far as Mad Elf.
Already have 2 six packs.
It does pack a wallop.

If you like Mad Elf, Troegs also makes a Summer version "Naked Elf".
I don't know if they distribute it or only serve it at their brewery in Hershey.
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   Posted: 12/7/2017 12:23:04 PM 
I enjoy Founders:
KBS
CBS
Dirty Bastard
Backwoods Bastard
Breakfast Stout
Doom
Tank Bender

Also New Holland:
Dragon Milk...all flavors

They go well with tailgate food.

GO BOBCATS
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   Posted: 12/7/2017 3:20:32 PM 
I doubt they have this in NJ ....

But folks in Ohio might be able to get their paws on it

Esther's Lil Secret - Warped Wing (Dayton)

A little different holiday brew ...

https://untappd.com/b/warped-wing-brewery-esther-s-li-l-s...

Shiner Cheer is an underestimated holiday brew too ... a "lighter" Xmas Ale

And I discovered this one a few weeks ago...

Jolly Traveler Winter Shandy

I'm not much of a shandy guy ... but this is pretty good stuff .... but in small quantities.
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   Posted: 12/7/2017 3:35:27 PM 
bshot44 wrote:
I doubt they have this in NJ ....

But folks in Ohio might be able to get their paws on it

Esther's Lil Secret - Warped Wing (Dayton)

A little different holiday brew ...

https://untappd.com/b/warped-wing-brewery-esther-s-li-l-s...

Shiner Cheer is an underestimated holiday brew too ... a "lighter" Xmas Ale

And I discovered this one a few weeks ago...

Jolly Traveler Winter Shandy

I'm not much of a shandy guy ... but this is pretty good stuff .... but in small quantities.


We had the Jolly Traveler Winter Shandy on tap.
I'm not a shandy person either.But,it wasn't bad.

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   Posted: 12/7/2017 4:15:46 PM 
bshot44 wrote:
I doubt they have this in NJ ....

But folks in Ohio might be able to get their paws on it

Esther's Lil Secret - Warped Wing (Dayton)

A little different holiday brew ...

https://untappd.com/b/warped-wing-brewery-esther-s-li-l-s...

Shiner Cheer is an underestimated holiday brew too ... a "lighter" Xmas Ale

And I discovered this one a few weeks ago...

Jolly Traveler Winter Shandy

I'm not much of a shandy guy ... but this is pretty good stuff .... but in small quantities.


If you can find it, Esther's Lil Secret is solid freakin' gold! If you know where to find bottles of it in a store, PM me.

Last Edited: 12/7/2017 4:19:38 PM by OU_Country
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   Posted: 12/7/2017 4:19:11 PM 
Kinggeorge4 wrote:
I enjoy Founders:
KBS
CBS
Dirty Bastard
Backwoods Bastard
Breakfast Stout
Doom
Tank Bender

Also New Holland:
Dragon Milk...all flavors

They go well with tailgate food.


KBS, CBS are dynamite, but tough to find. I happen to be friends with the central Ohio Founders rep, so I know how to get it. ;)

In case you didn't know, Backwoods Bastard and Breakfast Stout are soon to be year 'round offerings in 2018.

Lastly, a favorite tailgate beverage of mine from Founders is Rubaeus, a Raspberry ale in line with Razz Wheat, but frankly a slightly better in my book.


For rpbobcat, yeah this is full on thread hijack. Got me sidetracked with steaks and good beer. ;)
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   Posted: 12/7/2017 5:42:01 PM 
OU_Country wrote:
Kinggeorge4 wrote:
I enjoy Founders:
KBS
CBS
Dirty Bastard
Backwoods Bastard
Breakfast Stout
Doom
Tank Bender

Also New Holland:
Dragon Milk...all flavors

They go well with tailgate food.


KBS, CBS are dynamite, but tough to find. I happen to be friends with the central Ohio Founders rep, so I know how to get it. ;)

In case you didn't know, Backwoods Bastard and Breakfast Stout are soon to be year 'round offerings in 2018.

Lastly, a favorite tailgate beverage of mine from Founders is Rubaeus, a Raspberry ale in line with Razz Wheat, but frankly a slightly better in my book.


For rpbobcat, yeah this is full on thread hijack. Got me sidetracked with steaks and good beer. ;)


If I'm having a steak, I'm having a good sancere with my salad course and a very smooth but chewy red with a long finish with the steak. Believe it or not, the 2015 Shade Winery Cabernet Franc is a very good match for a perfectly cooked strip steak.
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   Posted: 12/7/2017 9:05:17 PM 
O.U. Country was able to find the Southern Tier 2Xmas.
But a six pack on ice and will give it try over the weekend.

I'll let you know what my wife and I think.

I just in a gift package of Omaha Steaks from a friend of ours.

We'll try it with them.
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   Posted: 12/7/2017 10:06:50 PM 
OU_Country wrote:
. . .Lastly, a favorite tailgate beverage of mine from Founders is Rubaeus, a Raspberry ale in line with Razz Wheat, but frankly a slightly better in my book .
. .


Yuk! But to each his or her own. What's the matter with a good olde Sam Adams Lager, a Jackie O's Firefly, or a Jackie O's Chomolungma? But, Razz Wheat? It's kind of like pouring anise oil into a glass of chardonnay, IMHO. BTW, my wife disagrees and likes these kinds of adulterated beers.

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   Posted: 12/8/2017 9:35:43 AM 
ONE OF THE BEST THREAD DRIFTS EVER!!
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   Posted: 12/8/2017 10:31:21 AM 
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
ONE OF THE BEST THREAD DRIFTS EVER!!


FIRE SOLICH!!!!!!!!!

ARRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Just thought I'd get us back on track .... and fire up the masses! :-)
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   Posted: 12/8/2017 11:01:40 AM 
BOLLLLL Really Bshot44...Bah humbug right???? LOL
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   Posted: 12/8/2017 11:56:37 AM 
I would like to give Buckeye to Bobcat his due. Great suggestions, my Bobcat brother from another mother. While I am not sure how you pay for the likes of Schiano and Butch Jones, I do like those ideas and some of your other suggestions, and it is nice to observe a well thought out plan of action, even if some of it sounds like a stretch. You are definitely my choice for the next Athletic Director, because someone needs to have some sort of specific vision going forward from Solich other than continuing to support our party school reputation by arguing which craft beer is the best. Being the one to pull the proverbial trigger on a legend though would take some giant balls to say the least (and we are not talking about basketballs). How much time do you think it will take the next coach to improve on what is already there, or, more correctly, how much time will the fan base give such an individual? The fear that I detect that most people have is what happens if the whole thing begins to go South in a hurry? I think some Bobcat fans are worried that lightening won't strike twice, so to speak, even though Jim Grobe did a solid job before moving onto Wake Forrest.
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   Posted: 12/8/2017 12:11:05 PM 
Maddog13 wrote:
I would like to give Buckeye to Bobcat his due. Great suggestions, my Bobcat brother from another mother. While I am not sure how you pay for the likes of Schiano and Butch Jones, I do like those ideas and some of your other suggestions, and it is nice to observe a well thought out plan of action, even if some of it sounds like a stretch. You are definitely my choice for the next Athletic Director, because someone needs to have some sort of specific vision going forward from Solich other than continuing to support our party school reputation by arguing which craft beer is the best. Being the one to pull the proverbial trigger on a legend though would take some giant balls to say the least (and we are not talking about basketballs). How much time do you think it will take the next coach to improve on what is already there, or, more correctly, how much time will the fan base give such an individual? The fear that I detect that most people have is what happens if the whole thing begins to go South in a hurry? I think some Bobcat fans are worried that lightening won't strike twice, so to speak, even though Jim Grobe did a solid job before moving onto Wake Forrest.


I have to disagree with wanting Schiano.
He did get Rutgers out of garbage dump.
He did that with the help of several high school coaches he put on his staff to lure New Jersey recruits.At the time,he also had some really good connections in Fla.

Under Schiano they had one really good year,as far as rankings.
But their loss to Louisville showed it was all smoke and mirrors.

He was never able to win the Big East or get them to anything but a second tier bowl.

He's great as a coordinator and,from the people I know,who know him,a nice guy.
I just wouldn't put him at the time of my head Coaching list.


And,just as importantly,Budweiser's 1933 Repeal Reserve is supposed to really good.

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   Posted: 12/8/2017 12:23:13 PM 
Maddog13 wrote:
I would like to give Buckeye to Bobcat his due. Great suggestions, my Bobcat brother from another mother. While I am not sure how you pay for the likes of Schiano and Butch Jones, I do like those ideas and some of your other suggestions, and it is nice to observe a well thought out plan of action, even if some of it sounds like a stretch. You are definitely my choice for the next Athletic Director, because someone needs to have some sort of specific vision going forward from Solich other than continuing to support our party school reputation by arguing which craft beer is the best. Being the one to pull the proverbial trigger on a legend though would take some giant balls to say the least (and we are not talking about basketballs). How much time do you think it will take the next coach to improve on what is already there, or, more correctly, how much time will the fan base give such an individual? The fear that I detect that most people have is what happens if the whole thing begins to go South in a hurry? I think some Bobcat fans are worried that lightening won't strike twice, so to speak, even though Jim Grobe did a solid job before moving onto Wake Forrest.


I think a lot of people live in fear that when Solich leaves, this whole program will crumble like a house of cards.

I don't think that is the case at all. Let me put this perspective on it ....

While some here are 1000% behind Solich and his abilities coaching this team, I'm more 1000% behind how Solich built this program. He laid some serious groundwork ... a stable foundation .... and when the time comes for him to hand it off, assuming it's not to one of his current assistants, I think the program will continue to thrive and actually get better.

I think his on-the-field coaching has taken us as far as it can. There are flaws in a lot of things that go on once the team actually hits the playing field. Whether that's 100% on him ... or his assistants .... it ultimately is the head coach's responsibility. For whatever reason, he has not been able to get us over the 8-5 (5-3) hump. For some on here, that is a totally acceptable result each year. Some of us, as we've vocalized, would like to see Ohio take that next step to getting to be a consistent 9 or 10 win program that wins some MACC and wins some bowl games ... and maybe even threatens on a national level once in a while with a national ranking or a push for a NY6 bowl game. Some of that is still way off ... but some of it Ohio has been on the doorstep to for a while now and just can't take that last step.

I think whoever takes over ... whether it's a Schiano/Jones type that is looking to resurrect their coaching career .... or a nice up-and-coming young mind ... they are walking into a great situation.

There is obviously talent on the current roster. There are great things going on around the program in terms of IPF and the Academic Center. I think we all agree an upgrade to Peden is overdue and a necessity, but that's another discussion.

Either way ... I don't think we are looking at a drop from 8-5 (5-3) to 2-10 (2-6) once Frank leaves. This isn't EMU or Kent ... or Ohio circa 1999/2000

Again ... with the schedule Ohio plays, a monkey could come in and coach this team to 6 or 7 wins. I'd love to see Solich be the guy to get Ohio into that next stratosphere ... but after 13 years and repeatedly falling short ... I'm not sure he'll ever get them there. But I'm confident the next coach can do that because I believe in how Frank laid the foundation and believe that Jim Schaus will find a great successor.

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   Posted: 12/8/2017 1:06:12 PM 
bshot44 wrote:

I think a lot of people live in fear that when Solich leaves, this whole program will crumble like a house of cards.

I don't think that is the case at all. Let me put this perspective on it ....

While some here are 1000% behind Solich and his abilities coaching this team, I'm more 1000% behind how Solich built this program. He laid some serious groundwork ... a stable foundation .... and when the time comes for him to hand it off, assuming it's not to one of his current assistants, I think the program will continue to thrive and actually get better.

I think his on-the-field coaching has taken us as far as it can. There are flaws in a lot of things that go on once the team actually hits the playing field. Whether that's 100% on him ... or his assistants .... it ultimately is the head coach's responsibility. For whatever reason, he has not been able to get us over the 8-5 (5-3) hump. For some on here, that is a totally acceptable result each year. Some of us, as we've vocalized, would like to see Ohio take that next step to getting to be a consistent 9 or 10 win program that wins some MACC and wins some bowl games ... and maybe even threatens on a national level once in a while with a national ranking or a push for a NY6 bowl game. Some of that is still way off ... but some of it Ohio has been on the doorstep to for a while now and just can't take that last step.

I think whoever takes over ... whether it's a Schiano/Jones type that is looking to resurrect their coaching career .... or a nice up-and-coming young mind ... they are walking into a great situation.

There is obviously talent on the current roster. There are great things going on around the program in terms of IPF and the Academic Center. I think we all agree an upgrade to Peden is overdue and a necessity, but that's another discussion.

Either way ... I don't think we are looking at a drop from 8-5 (5-3) to 2-10 (2-6) once Frank leaves. This isn't EMU or Kent ... or Ohio circa 1999/2000

Again ... with the schedule Ohio plays, a monkey could come in and coach this team to 6 or 7 wins. I'd love to see Solich be the guy to get Ohio into that next stratosphere ... but after 13 years and repeatedly falling short ... I'm not sure he'll ever get them there. But I'm confident the next coach can do that because I believe in how Frank laid the foundation and believe that Jim Schaus will find a great successor.


I agree with what you said about the foundation that Coach Solich has built.

My concerns with what may/will happen when Coach Solich leaves is whether (hopefully) Shaus is still the A.D. and how important our new president feels athletics are.

Based on his comments to date,I'm not sure how much importance Nellis gives athletics.
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   Posted: 12/8/2017 1:44:05 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:
Maddog13 wrote:
I would like to give Buckeye to Bobcat his due. Great suggestions, my Bobcat brother from another mother. While I am not sure how you pay for the likes of Schiano and Butch Jones, I do like those ideas and some of your other suggestions, and it is nice to observe a well thought out plan of action, even if some of it sounds like a stretch. You are definitely my choice for the next Athletic Director, because someone needs to have some sort of specific vision going forward from Solich other than continuing to support our party school reputation by arguing which craft beer is the best. Being the one to pull the proverbial trigger on a legend though would take some giant balls to say the least (and we are not talking about basketballs). How much time do you think it will take the next coach to improve on what is already there, or, more correctly, how much time will the fan base give such an individual? The fear that I detect that most people have is what happens if the whole thing begins to go South in a hurry? I think some Bobcat fans are worried that lightening won't strike twice, so to speak, even though Jim Grobe did a solid job before moving onto Wake Forrest.


I have to disagree with wanting Schiano.
He did get Rutgers out of garbage dump.
He did that with the help of several high school coaches he put on his staff to lure New Jersey recruits.At the time,he also had some really good connections in Fla.

Under Schiano they had one really good year,as far as rankings.
But their loss to Louisville showed it was all smoke and mirrors.

He was never able to win the Big East or get them to anything but a second tier bowl.

He's great as a coordinator and,from the people I know,who know him,a nice guy.
I just wouldn't put him at the time of my head Coaching list.


And,just as importantly,Budweiser's 1933 Repeal Reserve is supposed to really good.


If the angry call here is for a coach who dominates a conference and wins conference titles, I don't see the fascination for Schiano, who never won a conference championship in 11 seasons at Rutgers, lost 20 more conference games than he won and was a coach with an overall .500 record.

By the way, has anyone tried the Downeast Cider Winter Brew? It is magical, but mysteriously not available west of Ohio...
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   Posted: 12/8/2017 4:00:54 PM 
Maddog13 wrote:
I would like to give Buckeye to Bobcat his due. Great suggestions, my Bobcat brother from another mother. While I am not sure how you pay for the likes of Schiano and Butch Jones, I do like those ideas and some of your other suggestions, and it is nice to observe a well thought out plan of action, even if some of it sounds like a stretch. You are definitely my choice for the next Athletic Director, because someone needs to have some sort of specific vision going forward from Solich other than continuing to support our party school reputation by arguing which craft beer is the best. Being the one to pull the proverbial trigger on a legend though would take some giant balls to say the least (and we are not talking about basketballs). How much time do you think it will take the next coach to improve on what is already there, or, more correctly, how much time will the fan base give such an individual? The fear that I detect that most people have is what happens if the whole thing begins to go South in a hurry? I think some Bobcat fans are worried that lightening won't strike twice, so to speak, even though Jim Grobe did a solid job before moving onto Wake Forrest.


In regards to what Solich has done is nothing short of spectacular. Everyone is right in that the history of this program should simply state that 3 wins is the maximum, anything beyond is champagne and caviar. With what has been done in the last 13 years, is great. What I wish though is that it would have gone from 8-4 to 10-2 with a push for 11-1 every couple of year. The only comparison I can think for him is Doug Collins. A guy who get a team to a certain point, but no further. Otherwise, for what he has done to get it here, crazy. The foundation talent wise is enough to give the next coach his cushion for at least two years to be a 6-6 outfit at worst if they can't coach worth a crap. I give respect to him in terms of that. Where we will need to capitalize is like I have stated is a coach who can come in and recruit his honeywells effectively, especially the I-71 corridor and Western PA, hence why the Tom Arth recommendation if we go beyond Solich's assistants.

In terms of facilities and structures, with the indoor facility, academic center, and weight room work, we'd be okay for at least 4 years. The problem you're going to see is we're due for some big work in regards to Peden and I hate to say this about a former employer, but we have nickel'ed and dime'd our fanbase on these projects we undertook. Whether it was the academic center, the weight room, or practice facility projects, it felt like each year there was a new 3 million dollar fundraiser that was needed. I wish that the athletic department would have laid out a 5 year project goal and done it all at once or at least some form of master plan for the athletic department. Because I was going through the archives of the athletic reports and did not find anything saying what next projects were coming down the tracks, I have always thought we were a reactionary department, not a trendsetting department. With what Eastern Michigan is doing as a whole is they are going to renovate their facilities all at once. To me, this would seem to be the kind of project that Ohio could do. But......

The biggest problem long term though is what is our giving capability as a school? This is no offense to the giving that has been done, but when hit for these projects on a year to year basis, it dries up what could be done for one big charge. Another problem stemming from this is that we do not have a lot of big hitters that can give north of $100,000 each year. I have always said that if a school is going to be viable athletically, it needs three things:
1. A respected and well-funded business school
2. A medical school (with doctors who perform surgeries, not just osteopathic medicine)
3. A law school

Since we do not have #2 and #3, this takes away the capabilities of having those donors who can write $10,000 checks on an annual basis for the sake of a tax write off. This is significant because if a school has enough of these, that number can add up in a hurry. With our business school, it is decent. But as shown here, the odds of producing an alum out of our business school that can print money is pretty limited due to being the only cog that can stand on its own hind leg.

That said, because this school has historically supported the liberal arts and damned capitalism, it makes having a donor with a focus on athletics odds go down significantly. Not knocking the education department or the liberal arts, but how often do you hear of big hitters from there writing the $5,000,000 checks to athletic departments? Not often.

Unfortunately it's what I get from working in Athletics and looking at schools this way. It is why I am intrigued by what Northern Kentucky can become and what Toledo can become with its acquisition in the last 10 years of MCO. Now I am not advocating for us to develop these medical and law programs, but it is why O$U and Cincinnati have better odds of being successful long-term in athletics than we do. It's simply a number's game as to how many donors can elevate themselves into that $10,000,000 gift area with $100,000 per year donations.

Now that can all change with just one donation, but the odds right now as they stand do not bode well for the immediate future unless someone develops the widget that everyone needs and loved athletics from their time at OU. That, and don't feel inclined to write checks to Columbus before they write one to Athens. Fortunately, I am the opposite in these regards, as my dollars are coming to Athens due to what I got out of here. I just hope that the spirit of giving to Athens continues from alums and hopefully there is a shot for someone to come along and hit big.

Last Edited: 12/8/2017 4:22:00 PM by Buckeye to Bobcat
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