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The Optimist
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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/6/2017 2:13:51 PM

OUcats82 wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

OUcats82 wrote:

You could have something like this on your hands.....

http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=5864754

But you also would have possibly someone who could be far more social media savvy than some stiff. But judgment and filters (normally) get better with age too. Besides, I have a hard time believing that someone couldn't be found and paid to come out for 6 home games a year for a modest sum. At $100 a game for say 4 hours $25 an hour is a pretty good rate for a likely moonlighting gig. The bigger challenge would be working around a mix of Saturday games and MACtion. I bet more than $600 is spent on TP and soap for the restrooms.

I know OUr pockets aren't as deep as the larger D1s but don't we have one of the top athletic administration programs? And also a strong communications program? I would think those enrolled could be put to good use if this was really wanted.

You guys realize that being "the" University, they cannot just hire folks like that anymore. HR is involved in everything outside, and then there are so many restrictions and regulations on student workers in regards to amount paid and hours.

Actually I don't. But now I do.

Brandon Hanning has done more for this University than anyone in the HR department ever will.

I've seen crazier things happen.

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/25/2017 11:57:23 AM

It's been a little over a month since this was started. Anyone have any updates? Seems odd to me that there wouldn't be something out there by now.

GoCats105
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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/25/2017 12:01:34 PM

How are they dropping the ball on this so badly? Something new and exciting is being added to the stadium and we're a little over one month away from kickoff, yet nothing has been said about it. Unless it's not gonna take long and they haven't started, but I would think it might?

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/25/2017 2:08:30 PM

You can install a scoreboard into an existing structure in a day.

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/25/2017 3:22:46 PM

GoCats105 wrote:

How are they dropping the ball on this so badly?

You can insert this comment into so many things re: Ohio athletics

SBH
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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/25/2017 4:22:01 PM

Maybe the scoreboard is such an unremarkable upgrade over the old one that they don't consider it worthy of puffery? It's gonna be the same size, in same weird location (too far from field). My understanding is they are doing the install this year only because the old one stopped working.

Last Edited: 7/25/2017 4:22:59 PM by SBH

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/25/2017 4:25:06 PM

bshot44 wrote:

GoCats105 wrote:

How are they dropping the ball on this so badly?

You can insert this comment into so many things re: Ohio athletics

I'll be kind - you can insert the comment about some things that could be done better. Let's not forget that since Jim Schaus started that some things have come light years from what it was before him.

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/25/2017 4:53:39 PM

OU_Country wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

GoCats105 wrote:

How are they dropping the ball on this so badly?

You can insert this comment into so many things re: Ohio athletics

There is fact in that statement ... Schaus has done a very, very good job.

But it's obvious Ohio still lacks in a lot of fundamental things that you would think, as someone earlier posted, with a top athletic administration program and a top communications school we could put in place.

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/25/2017 6:32:09 PM

The Sports Administration program is NOT part of OHIO Athletics, the professors have no ties to the department, and the closest the students get is game day set up and some internships. We act like this degree program should make us the best athletic department, when in reality more money and more staffing would make us a much better athletic department. Peden is almost 100 years old, in 2000 the administration made a decision to renovate and did so in a way that for the foreseeable future Peden is what we have. Instead of always lambasting the people who work hard with what they are given, let's be thankful for those people who often work as departments of 1-2 people, when their peers in the MAC have 5-12 people.

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/26/2017 4:20:14 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

I mean really all you have to do is look at the degrees of the people who work for Ohio athletics. Where are they from? I don't pretend I know the percentages but are there even that many that graduated from Ohio? But I agree with your second point. These guys and gals are doing their best with what they have.

Last Edited: 7/26/2017 4:21:04 PM by GoCats105

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/26/2017 10:55:22 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

Ping dumped some money into Peden right before 2000 so it made sense to continue to build on those renovations for a few million dollars than a tear down and rebuild. Some of the issue I believe was location for a new stadium was/is limited space on the athletics mall. The stadium is on a prime corner.

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SBH
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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/27/2017 3:19:55 AM

Ping retired in 1994.

Campus Flow
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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/27/2017 6:53:34 AM

Tower was complete by 1994. A big new stadium investment right before 2000. Then the corner seats were done just before that. If Ping didn't build the tower there would be more of an argument for going outright new.

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Campus Flow
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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/27/2017 7:23:05 AM

Ping's vision for the program was an FCS future. He kept Peden small but tried to get it nicer. Boeh-Glidden walk in with a CUSA type vision where Ohio would eventually be playing under the lights on a national TV contract. The Pitt game was the culmination of that dream in many ways. Schaus changed the scheduling and marketing to promote more success with incremental facility improvements focused around greatest needs.

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/27/2017 9:08:18 AM

BillyTheCat wrote:

I think (and hope) many of us on here realize that sports ad program is NOT part of the athletic dept. But if your next door neighbor is really, really good at something .... wouldn't you ask them to help you out? Seems like there is an opportunity for some "on-the-job training" for those in that program. A ton of people from that program end up with pro sports teams or other major college programs. Would it not hurt to set something up where they get some hands-on experience working gameday operations or marketing for a Division I football/basketball program? I see them all the time out at TailGreat Park peddling their t-shirts to fund the program ... wouldn't they be more well-served actually working with the program?

Over half the staff for the ESPN3 broadcasts are students with the exception of the on-air talent. That's great hands-on experience.

I'm just saying there is a lot of talent roaming the campus in Athens .... and it's sometimes woefully used at our prime athletic events.

I totally get that our athletic dept is woefully staffed and underfunded. (I'm not sure I believe there are MAC schools with 12 people in some depts that Ohio has 1. Ohio typically pumps more money into football/basketball than most MAC schools)

Just saying I think there is a missed opportunity there.

On the field and off the field .... that 2009-2012 stretch was some of the best in Ohio athletics history (especially for football/baskeball). The notoriety and visibility of the athletic program was never higher, in my opinion. Losing Evan Shaw and more importantly those shows he did was a massive blow to the exposure football and basketball got regionally and nationally. Why those haven't come back is beyond me? I understand Evan most likely did it because he loved it ... but those set the school apart from other MAC schools and other mid-majors. Ohio has opportunities to set themselves apart from the rest of the league on a lot of different levels ... and sometimes I think they find themselves just accepting the status quo that the rest of the league settles for. Ohio should be the premier, flagship program in the MAC ... and sometimes I think we just get in our own way

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/27/2017 9:22:23 AM

bshot44 wrote:

Seems like there is an opportunity for some "on-the-job training" for those in that program. A ton of people from that program end up with pro sports teams or other major college programs. Would it not hurt to set something up where they get some hands-on experience working gameday operations or marketing for a Division I football/basketball program? I see them all the time out at TailGreat Park peddling their t-shirts to fund the program ... wouldn't they be more well-served actually working with the program?

I suspect part of the problem would be establishing who is in charge, the athletic department or the Sports Ad program? The Sports Ad program would want to have authority over their students, but the work would be directly impacting Athletics.

Maybe it could be set up as an internship? I don't know if Athletics has the money for that (if it's paid positions) or if the market supports unpaid internships.

Edit: I also don't know if the Sports Ad program respects their own Athletic Department enough to recommend them as an internship destination.

Last Edited: 7/27/2017 9:23:48 AM by Robert Fox

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/27/2017 11:22:14 AM

BillyTheCat wrote:

You can install a scoreboard into an existing structure in a day.

That's good, because as of Tuesday night, there's nothing there but the brick and a metal frame.

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/27/2017 11:22:28 AM

Uncle Wes wrote:

The Ping/McElhaney administration was responsible for the tower (good) and the corner sections (awful). This was all before 1990 because I arrived in 1991 and they were already there. I believe the tower had just recently been completed.

The next major renovations were all Glidden/Boeh, and included the addition of the weight room, which was a terrible and awkward (in design, I mean. I realize it was needed) thing to do to the stadium and ended up blocking our one scoreboard for a whole section of people. It was after Grobe left that the field was lowered and the new seating was put in, between the 2000-01 seasons.

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/27/2017 12:08:11 PM

Robert Fox wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

I'm a graduate of the undergrad Sports Ad program. There are plenty of opportunities to help out for those who are willing to actually do it. Not sure what the curriculum is for the degree now, but you were required to complete both a practicum experience (basically an internship that only last a quarter) and an internship (which could be substituted with extra courses if you weren't able to land one).

I was lucky enough to do both, and both of which I actually had to get myself. Yeah, I knew of one or two professors who would get details and send them out to students, but we had to actually go ask about the job and land it.

My practicum was in the athletic department working with Media Relations. They relied pretty heavily on us interns who were there just getting experience for no pay and more or less filling in the blanks with easy stuff. Also got to operate the scoreboard and game clock during lacrosse matches, which was cool. And the college credit toward the degree was well worth it.

Now, I can't speak for the Graduate Program. But I'm sure there are plenty of opportunities to help out for those willing to stick their nose in there.

Last Edited: 7/27/2017 12:10:02 PM by GoCats105

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/27/2017 4:55:21 PM

SBH wrote:

Ping retired in 1994.

Damn pesky facts ;-)

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 7/27/2017 7:36:36 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

SBH wrote:

Ping retired in 1994.

Damn pesky facts ;-)

The Carin Center was finished in 1999 so obviously the decision to renovate rather than rebuild was made before that point. I'm guessing 1995 when Boeh was grappling with the NCAA attendance requirements but as I've pointed out it was just a few years after the tower was completely finished (1991) at a cost of 5.3 million dollars. The time gap between Ping building the tower and Boeh coming on board was just a few years, not a decade+ as you are trying to make it to be.

https://archive.org/stream/ohiouniversityto141ohio#page/4...

Last Edited: 7/27/2017 7:40:05 PM by Campus Flow

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 8/2/2017 11:43:46 AM

FWIW, in the last couple days, Arkley tweeted a photo of the scoreboard. It's clearly still in progress and isn't close to complete.

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 8/2/2017 12:24:28 PM

Not sure if we are talking about the same tweet but it's just the brick with mounting brackets in the picture I saw. I'd imagine that the installation would go relatively quickly once the new scoreboard and accessories arrive in Athens if the support structures are ready to go.

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 8/2/2017 12:34:13 PM

OUcats82 wrote:

We are talking about the same tweet. I guess "not close to complete" might have been a little generous. ;)

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RE: Peden Upgrades

Posted: 8/7/2017 3:40:30 PM

Look at "progress" on the scoreboard today from Arkley -
https://twitter.com/JasonAmessenger/status/89458737125289...

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