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Very sad to hear. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,064 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/17/2017 6:25:28 PM  http://www.hodappfuneralhome.com/obituary/vincent-anthony... / This is a very sad day. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,022 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/18/2017 1:33:58 PM  Any relation to CTE? Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,155 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/18/2017 3:27:10 PM  Alan Swank wrote: Any relation to CTE? Makes you wonder. It seems like an ever increasing number of situations where injuries lead to various addictions. It's tragic regardless of cause. Back to Top Kinggeorge4 General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Guysville, OH Post Count: 964 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/19/2017 9:54:23 AM  Very sad, prayers to his family! GO BOBCATS GEORGE Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/19/2017 10:25:52 AM  Kinggeorge4 wrote: Very sad, prayers to his family! +1 The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Bobcatzblitz General User Member Since: 7/21/2010 Post Count: 1,726 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/19/2017 5:16:52 PM  Yes CTE is suspected from playing days at Ohio Back to Top BEG General User Member Since: 5/22/2013 Post Count: 40 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/19/2017 8:57:11 PM  Bobcatzblitz wrote: Yes CTE is suspected from playing days at Ohio Just curious...how do you know that? Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/20/2017 8:59:29 AM  colobobcat66 wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Any relation to CTE? Makes you wonder. It seems like an ever increasing number of situations where injuries lead to various addictions. It's tragic regardless of cause. Addictions are killing record numbers of Americans every day. Especially in Ohio. CTE is not causing addictions. Back to Top OUs LONG Driver General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Copley, OH Post Count: 653 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/20/2017 9:10:07 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Any relation to CTE? Makes you wonder. It seems like an ever increasing number of situations where injuries lead to various addictions. It's tragic regardless of cause. Addictions are killing record numbers of Americans every day. Especially in Ohio. CTE is not causing addictions. Not really the place to get off track but substance abuse and addiction is one of the primary behavioral symptoms of CTE. It's all speculation at this point, but thought it worth correcting. Truly sad either way. Back to Top C Money General User Member Since: 8/28/2010 Post Count: 3,420 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/20/2017 10:25:31 AM  Wasn't he pretty frequently on the injured list for leg injuries? Even if not CTE, prescription painkillers could be the source of the addiction issue, a la Bret Favre. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,064 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/20/2017 11:10:10 AM  He was frequently on the injured list, but my impression was concussions were also involved. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Paul Graham General User Member Since: 1/18/2005 Location: The Plains, OH Post Count: 1,424 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/20/2017 11:48:39 AM  injuries->painkillers->addiction Reasons to stop your kid from playing football (or watching it) keep piling up. Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,502 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/20/2017 12:01:23 PM  Paul Graham wrote: injuries->painkillers->addiction Reasons to stop your kid from playing football (or watching it) keep piling up. First off,injuries are part of any contact sport. I played soccer and wrestled in college. Messed up my knees and one shoulder. Had one concussion I know of. I never had any inclination to take any pain killer stronger then Motrin. I don't think the problem is as inherent to the sport,but to the person. Back to Top C Money General User Member Since: 8/28/2010 Post Count: 3,420 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/20/2017 12:23:58 PM  rpbobcat wrote: Paul Graham wrote: injuries->painkillers->addiction Reasons to stop your kid from playing football (or watching it) keep piling up. First off,injuries are part of any contact sport. I played soccer and wrestled in college. Messed up my knees and one shoulder. Had one concussion I know of. I never had any inclination to take any pain killer stronger then Motrin. I don't think the problem is as inherent to the sport,but to the person. I have been on prescription painkillers once, after having my wisdom teeth removed. I took one without thinking too much about it and then drove to work. It wasn't until I arrived that I realized how dumb that was, especially since I wasn't in that much pain. But the doc said to take them. I ignored his advice after that one time. But we used to joke that the student health center would prescribe Loritab for a sore throat (which were gladly accepted by students and used recreationally or sold for recreational use...but that's a story for another day...). I can't imagine the availability and pressure to use if I was an athlete with actual injuries... Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,502 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/20/2017 12:41:19 PM  C Money wrote: rpbobcat wrote: Paul Graham wrote: injuries->painkillers->addiction Reasons to stop your kid from playing football (or watching it) keep piling up. First off,injuries are part of any contact sport. I played soccer and wrestled in college. Messed up my knees and one shoulder. Had one concussion I know of. I never had any inclination to take any pain killer stronger then Motrin. I don't think the problem is as inherent to the sport,but to the person. I have been on prescription painkillers once, after having my wisdom teeth removed. I took one without thinking too much about it and then drove to work. It wasn't until I arrived that I realized how dumb that was, especially since I wasn't in that much pain. But the doc said to take them. I ignored his advice after that one time. But we used to joke that the student health center would prescribe Loritab for a sore throat (which were gladly accepted by students and used recreationally or sold for recreational use...but that's a story for another day...). I can't imagine the availability and pressure to use if I was an athlete with actual injuries... I think a lot of people use pain killers more to get back on the field,mat etc. as soon as they can then because the actual pain. That just starts a cycle of more severe injuries,more pain killers etc. As far as the pressure of being an athlete,a lot of them,especially at the pro level will do anything to keep playing. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,064 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/20/2017 1:42:48 PM  Paul Graham wrote: injuries->painkillers->addiction Reasons to stop your kid from playing football (or watching it) keep piling up. It's not just football, though. Per wikipedia, the sports with the highest concussion rates among major sports: Women's Ice Hockey - .91 Men's Ice Hockey - .41 Women's soccer - .41 Men's Football - .37 Men's soccer - .28 Men's wrestling - .25 Women's lacrosse - .25 Men's lacrosse - .25 Women's basetball - .22 Women's field hockey - .18 As I read this list, and contemplate the tremendous growth in women's sports in recent years, one thing that occurs to me is that I wonder if we are going to see a surge with CTE cases among women in the years ahead. I guess we can still watch swimming, which no doubt has a near zero injury rate. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,502 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/20/2017 2:33:04 PM  L.C. wrote: Paul Graham wrote: injuries->painkillers->addiction Reasons to stop your kid from playing football (or watching it) keep piling up. It's not just football, though. Per wikipedia, the sports with the highest concussion rates among major sports: Women's Ice Hockey - .91 Men's Ice Hockey - .41 Women's soccer - .41 Men's Football - .37 Men's soccer - .28 Men's wrestling - .25 Women's lacrosse - .25 Men's lacrosse - .25 Women's basetball - .22 Women's field hockey - .18 As I read this list, and contemplate the tremendous growth in women's sports in recent years, one thing that occurs to me is that I wonder if we are going to see a surge with CTE cases among women in the years ahead. I guess we can still watch swimming, which no doubt has a near zero injury rate. The above numbers can be misleading. Earlier this year I was discussing this, as it pertained to college wrestling. They are the estimated number of concussions per 1000 "athletic exposures". An athletic exposure is a practice or event. Doing the math for wrestling, you have a 0.025 % chance of getting a concussion each time you go out on the mat. That's not a bad percentage. One thing I did notice is that some people seem much more prone to concussions then others. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/20/2017 2:46:13 PM  The other thing that is misleading here are the sports who have athletes using the juice, substantial psychological effects themselves. The science is there on the harmful effects of these substances, however know one wants to discuss them. Look at the high profile football players from the 70's, 80's and 90's that have suffered tragic ends, they were all notorious users, same with guys like Lenny Dykstra. Back to Top Sam bobcat General User Member Since: 7/14/2015 Post Count: 633 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/20/2017 3:10:32 PM  Paul Graham wrote: injuries->painkillers->addiction Reasons to stop your kid from playing football (or watching it) keep piling up. You certainly can stop watching football if it is too violent for you, but with the increasing awareness and changing of tackling techniques taught, I expect we will see a decrease in concussions in football. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,064 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/20/2017 8:17:31 PM  Sam bobcat wrote: Paul Graham wrote: injuries->painkillers->addiction Reasons to stop your kid from playing football (or watching it) keep piling up. You certainly can stop watching football if it is too violent for you, but with the increasing awareness and changing of tackling techniques taught, I expect we will see a decrease in concussions in football. I agree. Just for example, last year we saw Langston Provitt and Connor Krizancic hang it up because of concussions. Not too long ago we saw players take a day off, a week off, a month off, but when they felt better, they went back onto the field until they had another. Now they consider giving up the game before it has long term implications. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Sam bobcat General User Member Since: 7/14/2015 Post Count: 633 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/20/2017 9:04:51 PM  rpbobcat wrote: Paul Graham wrote: injuries->painkillers->addiction Reasons to stop your kid from playing football (or watching it) keep piling up. First off,injuries are part of any contact sport. I played soccer and wrestled in college. Messed up my knees and one shoulder. Had one concussion I know of. I never had any inclination to take any pain killer stronger then Motrin. I don't think the problem is as inherent to the sport,but to the person. To go even further than sports. I was injured in the Gulf War along with others I knew. Some struggled with post surgery addictions and some did not. It surely seems some are more prone than others to addiction. But I would imagine there are a myriad of factors that determine why. Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,502 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/21/2017 6:49:49 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: The other thing that is misleading here are the sports who have athletes using the juice, substantial psychological effects themselves. The science is there on the harmful effects of these substances, however know one wants to discuss them. Look at the high profile football players from the 70's, 80's and 90's that have suffered tragic ends, they were all notorious users, same with guys like Lenny Dykstra. Don't forget baseball. In college I worked out in a couple of hard core gyms. There was always the "clean" side and "juice" side. It was easy to tell when a guy started to "juice". All of a sudden his bench would start going up in leaps and bounds. We used to laugh when they'd say it was a new diet. Now I work out at Gold's. You hear guys talking about the "benefits" of juicing,if you do it "right". "Right" meaning you don't get caught. When someone brings up the harm they cause the usual answer is something like "I'll deal with that when I'm 40". Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: RIP #64    Posted: 6/21/2017 9:57:38 AM  rpbobcat wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: The other thing that is misleading here are the sports who have athletes using the juice, substantial psychological effects themselves. The science is there on the harmful effects of these substances, however know one wants to discuss them. Look at the high profile football players from the 70's, 80's and 90's that have suffered tragic ends, they were all notorious users, same with guys like Lenny Dykstra. Don't forget baseball. In college I worked out in a couple of hard core gyms. There was always the "clean" side and "juice" side. It was easy to tell when a guy started to "juice". All of a sudden his bench would start going up in leaps and bounds. We used to laugh when they'd say it was a new diet. Now I work out at Gold's. You hear guys talking about the "benefits" of juicing,if you do it "right". "Right" meaning you don't get caught. When someone brings up the harm they cause the usual answer is something like "I'll deal with that when I'm 40". Exactly, and until the use of roids and synthetics are addressed on the medical level, I will not believe that the CTE is a concussion only issue. Because we do not see the amount of CTE issues with other high concussion sports that do not have the prevalence of roids. 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