Welcome Guest! Create an Account login email: password: remember me: BASKETBALL Latest News News Archive Schedule/Results Multi-Media Recruiting FOOTBALL Latest News News Archive Schedule/Results Multi-Media Recruiting MESSAGE BOARD Message Home - Ohio Basketball - Ohio Basketball Recruiting - The O Zone - Ohio Football - Ohio Football Recruiting - Ohio Volleyball - Ohio Baseball - Ohio Olympic Sports... - General OU Discussion... - Website Feedback... - Posting Policy Edit My Profile Private Messages Logout CHAT LINKS site searchwhere to watchcontact usabout usadvertise with ushelp Message Board BobcatAttack.com Message Board Ohio Football Topic:  New Bobcat Jamal Hudson Topic:  New Bobcat Jamal Hudson Author Message allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     New Bobcat Jamal Hudson    Posted: 6/8/2017 8:37:03 AM  Per his twitter, Jamal has committed to Ohio and will be joining the team in the fall. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,067 Status: Offline     RE: New Bobcat Jamal Hudson    Posted: 6/8/2017 8:51:00 AM  It was rumored that there was going to be a late addition to this year's recruiting class. I suppose this is the guy? I found this: http://www.hustlebelt.com/mac-football-recruiting/2016/1/... “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top UpSan Bobcat General User Member Since: 8/30/2005 Location: Upper Sandusky, OH Post Count: 3,792 Status: Offline     RE: New Bobcat Jamal Hudson    Posted: 6/8/2017 10:25:40 AM  He seems to have had offers from Air Force, Toledo, App State, Florida Atlantic, Florida Tech and New Mexico. Had a high 2-star rating. It seems he may have ended up at a prep school last year after he committed to Air Force and then ultimately signed with Toledo. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,067 Status: Offline     RE: New Bobcat Jamal Hudson    Posted: 6/8/2017 1:35:35 PM  Ohio has really been adding some talent at DB in recent years. For Fall, it would seem the following are slated for DB: De'vante Mitchell, 3-star safety from Florida, had 10 other offers (2 P5) Jamal Hudson, 2-star DB from Florida, formerly committed to Air Force/Toledo Marlin Brooks, 3-star CB from Florida, 6 other offers Alvin Floyd, 2-star DB from Florida, 4 other offers (2 P5) Tariq Drake, 2-star DB from Ohio, 6 other offers, 3rd in state in 200 Meters Xavier Bradley, former high school QB from Ohio, 4th in state 200M, 5th in 100M Michael Ballentine, Safety from Mentor, a top Ohio HS program The last two are preferred walkons. There is some definite speed in this group. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top OUs LONG Driver General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Copley, OH Post Count: 653 Status: Offline     RE: New Bobcat Jamal Hudson    Posted: 6/8/2017 2:50:02 PM  Called it a few weeks ago...Twitter is a hell of a drug http://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromPa... Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: New Bobcat Jamal Hudson    Posted: 6/8/2017 4:20:38 PM  UpSan Bobcat wrote: He seems to have had offers from Air Force, Toledo, App State, Florida Atlantic, Florida Tech and New Mexico. Had a high 2-star rating. It seems he may have ended up at a prep school last year after he committed to Air Force and then ultimately signed with Toledo. As one who doesn't follow football recruiting, I need a little help. Someone enlighten me on what a a player does to be a "high 2-star rating"? Almost a 3* but didn't quite make the grade? Just seems to me you're either a 2, 3, 4, or 5. Not a 2+, or 3+ etc. Back to Top UpSan Bobcat General User Member Since: 8/30/2005 Location: Upper Sandusky, OH Post Count: 3,792 Status: Offline     RE: New Bobcat Jamal Hudson    Posted: 6/8/2017 5:19:43 PM  OU_Country wrote: UpSan Bobcat wrote: He seems to have had offers from Air Force, Toledo, App State, Florida Atlantic, Florida Tech and New Mexico. Had a high 2-star rating. It seems he may have ended up at a prep school last year after he committed to Air Force and then ultimately signed with Toledo. As one who doesn't follow football recruiting, I need a little help. Someone enlighten me on what a a player does to be a "high 2-star rating"? Almost a 3* but didn't quite make the grade? Just seems to me you're either a 2, 3, 4, or 5. Not a 2+, or 3+ etc. Most of the recruiting services have a scale almost like a school grading scale. So if a player is between certain scores, he gets 5 stars, if between other scores, he gets 4, etc. Hudson's exact grades were in the 2-star range, just shy of being 3 stars. 247Sports' composite rating for him was .7824 on a scale where .8 is 3 stars and .7 is 2 stars. Rivals rated him a 5.4 on a scale were 5.2-5.4 is 2 stars and 5.5-5.7 is 3 stars. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,067 Status: Offline     RE: New Bobcat Jamal Hudson    Posted: 6/8/2017 6:51:06 PM  OU_Country wrote: As one who doesn't follow football recruiting, I need a little help. Someone enlighten me on what a a player does to be a "high 2-star rating"? Almost a 3* but didn't quite make the grade? Just seems to me you're either a 2, 3, 4, or 5. Not a 2+, or 3+ etc. The rest of the answer is that the lower you get in the ratings, the less accuracy there is. Most of the money is spent rating and tracking the 4-5 star players, and the high three star players. Once you get down to two stars the ratings don't mean much. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: New Bobcat Jamal Hudson    Posted: 6/9/2017 10:16:43 AM  UpSan Bobcat wrote: OU_Country wrote: UpSan Bobcat wrote: He seems to have had offers from Air Force, Toledo, App State, Florida Atlantic, Florida Tech and New Mexico. Had a high 2-star rating. It seems he may have ended up at a prep school last year after he committed to Air Force and then ultimately signed with Toledo. As one who doesn't follow football recruiting, I need a little help. Someone enlighten me on what a a player does to be a "high 2-star rating"? Almost a 3* but didn't quite make the grade? Just seems to me you're either a 2, 3, 4, or 5. Not a 2+, or 3+ etc. Most of the recruiting services have a scale almost like a school grading scale. So if a player is between certain scores, he gets 5 stars, if between other scores, he gets 4, etc. Hudson's exact grades were in the 2-star range, just shy of being 3 stars. 247Sports' composite rating for him was .7824 on a scale where .8 is 3 stars and .7 is 2 stars. Rivals rated him a 5.4 on a scale were 5.2-5.4 is 2 stars and 5.5-5.7 is 3 stars. Thanks! As I read it, it sound like a bunch of hooey. When you explain it that way, it makes good sense. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,067 Status: Offline     RE: New Bobcat Jamal Hudson    Posted: 6/9/2017 11:14:38 AM  OU_Country wrote: Thanks! As I read it, it sound like a bunch of hooey. When you explain it that way, it makes good sense. It would make even better sense if it were used that way, and had much accuracy behind it. As a practical matter, here is how the athletes at the lower end get rated, from my observation: ESPN - doesn't rate them at all. They try to focus on rating only the high 3-star and up athletes that end up at P5 schools. Typically only a couple recruits that end up at Ohio were rated by ESPN Rivals - They used to rate the lower end with relative rigor, and on a scale of 4.9-5.4 for 2 star athletes. However, they have cut back on that dramatically. They officially rate them now on a 5.2-5.4 scale, but I've not seen a 5.2 in a long time, and they don't rate a lot of people at all. Last year they deleted their recruiting pages for G5 schools, and no longer even bother to cover schools, unless they have an active forum for that school. Thus, there is no Ohio recruiting page, and athletes recruited by Ohio do not get rated at all. Scout.com - Offers no discrimination. You are a 2-star, 3-star, or 4-star. As a result, virtually all Ohio recruits are rated "2-star", which gives no insight at all as to which recruits are the better ones. That isn't very useful, but it is honest; they have no clue which are the better recruits. 247Sports - They do make an honest effort to actually evaluate every athlete on a scale of 70-100. The resulting scale, unfortunately, implies more accuracy than is actually there. Once in awhile I do an analysis of the ratings by the different services, and compare them to what we actually see on the field for Ohio recruits. Which services are the most accurate? Here is my latest analysis, which covered the classes from 2012-14: http://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromPa... ESPN had a positive correlation, but a very small sample of players actually rated. Scout and Rivals had negative correlations - higher rated players were less likely to turn out to be good players than low rated players. 247Sports was uncorrelated. Combining all the ratings into the 247Sports Composite rating and you get a clear negative correlation. Note that that doesn't mean there aren't high rated players who do well, nor low rated players who don't do well, but consistently the very best players were the totally unrated players. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,152 Status: Offline     RE: New Bobcat Jamal Hudson    Posted: 6/9/2017 11:48:12 AM  A lot of times the number of stars really doesn't matter. It's how they're coached, their drive and their attitude. Rivals had Tarell Basham only a 2-star recruit. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. 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