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It bothers me, and it's not because the 110 don't deserve it because they do. It bothers me, and it should bother Jim Schaus and his staff. The problem is, there's a lot of times when Solich's team hasn't been very exciting to watch. I'm not slighting their efforts, or the kids on the field, and most of them are great ambassadors of Ohio University. But this bunch, particularly on offense, has become so predictable that they're boring to watch half the time. No matter what anyone says, defense might win championships, but offense is what most people get excited about at a game. Along with winning, it's also what KEEPS people at the game for the duration. It's not a secret that I'm a basketball before football guy. The game is faster paced. OUr crowds are noticeably, from my perspective, more into the game. Some of that has to come from the fact that the game itself is keeping their interest. Maybe a little more is that basketball, because it's a shorter length of time, is easier to pay attention to in an era of shorter and shorter attention spans. A fast paced, fun to watch offensive football team could do the same thing. I think we have the athletes, when healthy, to be exactly that. A fun to watch team, even if they're losing or behind, would at least keep people in the seats past halftime to see what happens next. I'm a sports guy, not a band guy. I want to come to a game, and stay at a game because I'm having fun at the game, in the stadium, not because I'm waiting for the band to play at halftime so I can go uptown, or back to a tailgate. It's something to consider if you're Ohio Athletics. I know this much: You don't see a quarter to a third of the crowd leaving The Convo at halftime. Back to Top catfan28 General User Member Since: 6/11/2011 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 1,503 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 11:40:23 AM  Uh oh, you just attacked the sacred cow. Cue outrage for slighting the Marching 110 in 3, 2, 1... Kidding aside, you're right. I've had friends in for games that frequent other stadiums and they've mentioned this same thing to me for years. Most of the football game, it's golf claps. Then the 110 comes out, fans stand up and go nuts. I don't know if it has to do with a "boring" team/playcalling. Maybe a little. To me, it's that the vast majority of fans at our games don't really care about the outcome. It's the attitude of "it nice if we win", but they're not glued to every play. Look around the stadium at any given section during the game. How many are really paying attention? Now, how many are engaged in a conversation or on their phone? Football for most (and I think OU_Country included) is an excuse to come to Athens, tailgate and be with friends. And, in the case of many, it's just entertainment. Do you really think all the youth football teams and bands at the game yesterday are losing sleep that we lost? They had fun regardless. I've used this analogy before. Our football games = minor league baseball game. People come for entertainment (110 is part of this), fun and friends. Outcome is secondary. Minus the beer, go to a Clippers game and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. Those of us that hang on to every play and are upset about the loss account for maybe 10% of the crowd. Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 12:12:55 PM  It doesn't help when you can't hear the PA and have a videoboard screen that is smaller than what you can find in the average person's living room. I've noticed that while its not showing up that much in the overall attendance numbers student attendance is down from previous years. The hill hasn't been packed all year. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,152 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 12:23:38 PM  I think it's pretty much always been that way. Ohio crowds have hardly ever been known for their enthusiasm. The crowd gets less silent when something exciting happens on the field, but isn't the type to get loud in order to pump up the team. I was at my son's football game Friday and noticed that the crowd there (except for the students) was pretty quiet. I told my wife that it was like sitting at an Ohio game. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top 100%Cat General User Member Since: 1/17/2013 Post Count: 2,491 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 1:03:17 PM  I thought this was going to be about the Rufus that drives the Harley appearing to be 90lbs heavier than the Rufus that walks the stadium. Come on, I can't be the only one who's noticed that. Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 1:43:22 PM  So, do we just concede that football is a slumber? And keep putting lots of money into it? Or do we stop putting lots of money into it? Or do we keep putting money into it but try to change what's making it boring? Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 2:41:12 PM  Pataskala wrote: I think it's pretty much always been that way. Ohio crowds have hardly ever been known for their enthusiasm. But when the band simply approaches, there's a buzz. When you're around the Convo on a gameday in the winter, there's a buzz AND our fans generally are into the game, and know when to cheer to get the team up. Why not in football? Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 2:42:55 PM  Catfan is right - for me, football is an excuse for all those things. But so is basketball, minus the tailgating and perfect Fall atmosphere in SE Ohio. Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 2:43:01 PM  Monroe Slavin wrote: So, do we just concede that football is a slumber? And keep putting lots of money into it? Or do we stop putting lots of money into it? Or do we keep putting money into it but try to change what's making it boring? If you are going to expect people to pay prices they would at a professional baseball game you are going to have to invest in it. Turn Peden into a mini NFL stadium with all chairbacks if fans are expected to trudge through 4 hour long games with TV breaks. Play classic rock over the audio in the later quarters as a tribute to the history of bands that have played at the school. That is what they are doing at Madison Square Garden. Make Peden a place people want to be. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,022 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 2:47:45 PM  Uncle Wes wrote: Monroe Slavin wrote: So, do we just concede that football is a slumber? And keep putting lots of money into it? Or do we stop putting lots of money into it? Or do we keep putting money into it but try to change what's making it boring? If you are going to expect people to pay prices they would at a professional baseball game you are going to have to invest in it. Turn Peden into a mini NFL stadium with all chairbacks if fans are expected to trudge through 4 hour long games with TV breaks. Play classic rock over the audio in the later quarters as a tribute to the history of bands that have played at the school. That is what they are doing at Madison Square Garden. Make Peden a place people want to be. I'm pretty sure I heard Magic Carpet Ride yesterday. It's tough to tell though when it's being played over a Kenner Close and Play. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 2:49:40 PM  Uncle Wes wrote: Make Peden a place people want to be. You hit the nail on the head to what I'm getting at. Based on the numbers of tickets sold, it's a place people want to be. Is it a place people want to stay at for the whole game? Why don't fans get into the game in the same way they do at basketball games, when they watch the Marching 110? Why do half, or more, of the students leave right after the 110? What would keep them there longer? Those are the questions, if I was in the AD's office, that I'd want to know about and remedy. Some of it starts with a more exciting product on the field in my opinion. It could continue with other things like you mention, maybe better concessions, offering beer maybe. Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 2:50:34 PM  OU_Country wrote: Pataskala wrote: I think it's pretty much always been that way. Ohio crowds have hardly ever been known for their enthusiasm. But when the band simply approaches, there's a buzz. When you're around the Convo on a gameday in the winter, there's a buzz AND our fans generally are into the game, and know when to cheer to get the team up. Why not in football? A lot of it is the way Peden is designed you can't see the action with the sun in your face and the shadows. Night games have a more electric crowd because its easier to see the action. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 2:54:50 PM  I would offer additional reasons night games have a more electric crowd. Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 3:02:31 PM  OU_Country wrote: Uncle Wes wrote: Make Peden a place people want to be. You hit the nail on the head to what I'm getting at. Based on the numbers of tickets sold, it's a place people want to be. Is it a place people want to stay at for the whole game? Why don't fans get into the game in the same way they do at basketball games, when they watch the Marching 110? Why do half, or more, of the students leave right after the 110? What would keep them there longer? Those are the questions, if I was in the AD's office, that I'd want to know about and remedy. Some of it starts with a more exciting product on the field in my opinion. It could continue with other things like you mention, maybe better concessions, offering beer maybe. I'm not sure how the play could be too much more exciting given the athletic catches that are made all over the field. In triple option days of Ohio when there wasn't a guy on the team who could catch an open pass I'd give you that style of play was an issue. I'm just of the opinion that the game experience has to be first rate to get excited about watching an average FBS program. Its not like it's Big Ten football and fans will come in the door to watch the name opponents. The best that can be done is offer a first rate stadium experience. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Recovering Journalist General User Member Since: 8/17/2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Post Count: 1,839 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 3:23:40 PM  We should probably be grateful that people show up for whatever reason they show up. There are not a ton of us on this board, and if we're honest with ourselves the few dozen regular posters and few hundred regular readers on this board probably represent the lion's share of humans on Earth who are fanatical about Ohio athletics. We can wish it was otherwise, and we can make donations to try to make it otherwise, but we can't force people to share our passions. Back to Top bobcat2nc General User Member Since: 12/28/2004 Post Count: 584 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 4:35:29 PM  My experience is that, to the average fan Ohio football is simply not important. If you want a large crowd noise you could announce tOSU scores on a regular basis when they are playing the same time. This would make me leave games however. When I talk to my friends about going to my wife and I going Ohio game they almost always respond with something like "oh yeah, your daughter cheered there and you went there too. How are they doing this year?" Hell, I have offered up my tickets to some folks whose kids go to Ohio when I know I cannot make it. Usual answer..He/She is coming home for The Game. Basketball, on the other hand, is seen as more like "real basketball". The fans who come to the game are in it, fans of basketball will actually watch an Ohio game. I love going to all things Ohio. I don't happen to be a loud fan at any sporting event, just not my style or personality but I am like an idiot compared to most people at Ohio games. I don't have any solutions, only rambling observations. Well there is one thing...I would rather see the 110 play and do a little dance during time outs than see the incessant sponsorship games. "MILLER'S CHICKEN HOPES YOU ENJOY THIS TIME OUT PERFORMANCE BY YOUR OHIO DANCE TEAM, CHEERLEADERS AND THE MOST EXCITING BAND IN THE LAND!!!!!" Go Cats Back to Top MonroeClassmate General User Member Since: 8/31/2010 Post Count: 2,000 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 4:57:23 PM  2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 there were very exciting games at Peden. Temple, Marshall, NIU, CMU and Miami with that lefty QB all exciting games at Peden with the fans being into the games. Each against fine competition. Basketball is no different, Saul's first season was a snoozer getting ripped by tough MAC teams. How exciting was the atmosphere for some TOS teams or when Nee first took over? Do not lose to Texas State or a team that was a perennial bottom feeder. Forget the music and good PA and jumbo tron. None of it is needed. Hand off to a guy and he breaks tackles and runs over a safety and drags three guys for a first down and the same thing happens and the next play there will be excitement. Buffalo proves this. Not much excitement over the years and OHIO travels there and the fans were going nutso watching the Buffalo running back getting 10 to 15 yards per carry while the entire OHIO defense was being pushed back. Three and outs to bottom 30 programs and you read on the thread the question of why are the fans so mellow? I got news for you. If OSU gets lousy three years in a row you won't see sell outs or excitement at a game against Purdue or Indiana. When OHIO had the Bucks down in the second half, you couldn't imagine sitting in the best seats in the house how unexcited their top fans were and how quiet it was. OHIO fans may be the best in the MAC. They get excited when there is a very competitive team on the court/field and not so excited for a struggling product. Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 5:38:11 PM  Ohio doesn't have the demographic for fan support that some of the MAC schools have they just have more loyalty. There is not that many people in Athens County but plenty in the surrounding towns if the demographic was more upwardly mobile. That is why I think a mini NFL stadium to attract the Browns or Steelers type football fan who doesn't want to drive all the way up to Cleveland or Pittsburgh for a game. That's the kind of fans I see when I'm in Peden. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 6:00:24 PM  bobcat2nc wrote: When I talk to my friends about going to my wife and I going Ohio game they almost always respond with something like "oh yeah, your daughter cheered there and you went there too. How are they doing this year?" Hell, I have offered up my tickets to some folks whose kids go to Ohio when I know I cannot make it. Usual answer..He/She is coming home for The Game. They must be having a better experience at the Horseshoe because its awfully boring to watch a team that is #2 in the country every year and expected to win games by 20 points. Going to a game like that costs money, a different demographic and in a 100,000 seat stadium you don't recognize people you know every time. OSU has better demographics for college football. WMU has better demographics for it than Ohio. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top ts1227 General User Member Since: 2/28/2006 Location: Tallmadge, OH Post Count: 853 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 8:41:15 PM  Alan Swank wrote: Uncle Wes wrote: Monroe Slavin wrote: So, do we just concede that football is a slumber? And keep putting lots of money into it? Or do we stop putting lots of money into it? Or do we keep putting money into it but try to change what's making it boring? If you are going to expect people to pay prices they would at a professional baseball game you are going to have to invest in it. Turn Peden into a mini NFL stadium with all chairbacks if fans are expected to trudge through 4 hour long games with TV breaks. Play classic rock over the audio in the later quarters as a tribute to the history of bands that have played at the school. That is what they are doing at Madison Square Garden. Make Peden a place people want to be. I'm pretty sure I heard Magic Carpet Ride yesterday. It's tough to tell though when it's being played over a Kenner Close and Play. In fact you did hear Magic Carpet Ride. It was oddly enough one of very few things that didn't sound like it was being broadcast under water. It was easier to understand the echo bouncing off of Walter walking to the game. Yesterday was my first game in a few years, and I didn't realize how run down Peden seems/is. Sure, I had a general idea like we all do, but it's bad. Scoreboard's shot, sound system is shot (therefore the promos will never come across as interesting even if they are, and it doesn't matter what music you play because no one can understand it), we all know most high schools offer better concessions. Even simple offerings like the souvenir pop cup suck and are made of amazingly cheap plastic. There is zero about the stadium itself or the "gameday atmosphere" that would make you want to stay until the end, so it basically falls on the football team to do that. Since the first half yesterday was dreadful (even if it was tied), it of course emptied out. Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 9:23:09 PM  bobcat2nc wrote: My experience is that, to the average fan Ohio football is simply not important. If you want a large crowd noise you could announce tOSU scores on a regular basis when they are playing the same time. Apparently true and about as damning as it gets: OSU scores drawing the loudest cheers at Peden. Maybe if we were winning (and not just against cupcakes). Classmate, you're talking about the 'safety' at the 3-yard line game, right? In the second half of that game, Buff's O-line was pushing our d-line back 3,4, 5 yards on every run before we touched their ballcarrier. We got stomped. Then, there was the BG game (that same year?) when we were down 21 or 28 to zero after the first quarter with one pass near the goal line (a td I think) by BG being an absolute balloon that our db's, moving in slow motion, couldn't get to. WINNING. A MAC title. That's what it will take. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 9:57:13 PM  ts1227 wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Uncle Wes wrote: Monroe Slavin wrote: So, do we just concede that football is a slumber? And keep putting lots of money into it? Or do we stop putting lots of money into it? Or do we keep putting money into it but try to change what's making it boring? If you are going to expect people to pay prices they would at a professional baseball game you are going to have to invest in it. Turn Peden into a mini NFL stadium with all chairbacks if fans are expected to trudge through 4 hour long games with TV breaks. Play classic rock over the audio in the later quarters as a tribute to the history of bands that have played at the school. That is what they are doing at Madison Square Garden. Make Peden a place people want to be. I'm pretty sure I heard Magic Carpet Ride yesterday. It's tough to tell though when it's being played over a Kenner Close and Play. In fact you did hear Magic Carpet Ride. It was oddly enough one of very few things that didn't sound like it was being broadcast under water. It was easier to understand the echo bouncing off of Walter walking to the game. Yesterday was my first game in a few years, and I didn't realize how run down Peden seems/is. Sure, I had a general idea like we all do, but it's bad. Scoreboard's shot, sound system is shot (therefore the promos will never come across as interesting even if they are, and it doesn't matter what music you play because no one can understand it), we all know most high schools offer better concessions. Even simple offerings like the souvenir pop cup suck and are made of amazingly cheap plastic. There is zero about the stadium itself or the "gameday atmosphere" that would make you want to stay until the end, so it basically falls on the football team to do that. Since the first half yesterday was dreadful (even if it was tied), it of course emptied out. You know what would be a hit in Peden if they could put in a cheaper chairback section in Peden that sells beer. Take out the hill and put in real seats. Price them in the 35-45 dollar range with it in the endzone and no bobcat club membership required. To attract fans who want to go to have more of that professional sporting event experience and have a few while watching the game experience. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top BEG General User Member Since: 5/22/2013 Post Count: 40 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 10:11:05 PM  Uncle Wes wrote: It doesn't help when you can't hear the PA and have a videoboard screen that is smaller than what you can find in the average person's living room. I've noticed that while its not showing up that much in the overall attendance numbers student attendance is down from previous years. The hill hasn't been packed all year. I am not an alum, but I am a player parent who hopes that my son will graduate and continue to have ties to this University. With that being said, I have some fresh eyes when it comes to observations about the Game Day experience. OU seems to do some strange things that are not the norm at other colleges that could contribute to the lack of student interest. Why aren't are our cheerleaders (the ones actually responsible for pumping up the crowd) ever near the students? How can anyone expect a student section to stay focused when there's nothing to focus on? I have never been to a college game where the cheerleaders are such a non-issue. They spend 2 quarters cheering in the corner near a cannon, battling for space with the cheerleaders from the opposing team. A complete dis-connect from your fans. Why is the student section behind our bench? That does not seem to be very common in other college stadiums either. i don't know the reason for this but obviously that's why the cheerleaders can't go there, so move the student section to either side of the bench. Stop with the stupid contests down by the Bobcat tunnel. Nobody cares how well random 8 year olds can dance. The only good thing about it is, that seems to be the only time somebody actually has a PA mike that we can all hear and understand. Maybe use that opportunity to go up into the student section and broadcast or do a contest from there. Maybe have the cheerleaders or dance team do a routine during that time. Why is our bench across from the press box? In most stadiums the press box is the "home" side and your fans and team stand there. It is also the side the band performs to. i am sure there are reasons for this but I'm not an alum so I don't know the history. Last Edited: 10/16/2016 10:32:36 PM by BEG Back to Top ts1227 General User Member Since: 2/28/2006 Location: Tallmadge, OH Post Count: 853 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 10:26:34 PM  Uncle Wes wrote: You know what would be a hit in Peden if they could put in a cheaper chairback section in Peden that sells beer. Take out the hill and put in real seats. Price them in the 35-45 dollar range with it in the endzone and no bobcat club membership required. To attract fans who want to go to have more of that professional sporting event experience and have a few while watching the game experience. It's a double edged sword... I get Athletics not wanting to create competition with itself, but I also worry that over time you're going to see people paying for seat access tail off, and premium seating will be more desirable on a game by game basis as you speak. Regardless of how the team does, the younger generation appears to be much less likely to join membership sort of things. My best example is looking at social clubs, how many of our Boomer and Gen X members joined an Italian Club or Moose Lodge as soon as they could because their parents did? NO ONE does now and most of them are quite screwed in the near future. I could easily see this attitude trickling down to things like mid-major athletics (obviously the P5 are fine), where the younger generation that usually shows up later in their life to contribute to the OBC never appears, but would be interested in game by game premium options. Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,952 Status: Offline     RE: Something I've noticed during the first four home games this year    Posted: 10/16/2016 10:28:27 PM  The MAC had a rule that prevents the student section from sitting behind the opposing team. 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