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Author Message GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,912 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 9:20:37 AM  Robert Fox wrote: GoCats105 wrote: Alan Swank wrote: The piece of concrete that fell is decorative in nature - about 30 inches by 60 inches by 9 inches thick. It fell from the face of the southwest corner where the stadium and Carin Center connect. It pretty well destroyed an A/C unit. Where it fell, no one was in danger of getting hit. The area is now fenced off. I'm sending Ted pictures to post. Regardless of where and how this particular piece fell, if there are pieces falling we better hope it doesn't happen again in a place that could cause potential problems. I have faith the administrators are aware of that. You do not? That's not what I'm saying at all. I just don't think people can play this off as a casual, "oh well some concrete fell." Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 9:25:40 AM  cc-cat wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: The older is often better. Exhibit #1: Wrigley Field. ;-) Preservation is helped by Wrigley rarely being used in October. Hahahaaaa! Back to Top OUcats82 General User Member Since: 1/9/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 1,827 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 9:32:42 AM  OU_Country wrote: cc-cat wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: The older is often better. Exhibit #1: Wrigley Field. ;-) Preservation is helped by Wrigley rarely being used in October. Hahahaaaa! Well if Wrigley does become a safety hazard come playoff time, maybe the Cubs can play at Great American instead. Their fans seem to be able to flood the place when the Cubs are in town. The Reds sure won't be using it in October for probably a decade. Tough to watch Chapman in blue pinstripes but at least he is on a team with aspirations of winning and not a Maserati parked in the garage of a crumbling house anymore. Ohio-The State University Back to Top El Gato Roberto General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Illinois Post Count: 1,070 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 10:04:58 AM  OUcats82 wrote: OU_Country wrote: cc-cat wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: The older is often better. Exhibit #1: Wrigley Field. ;-) Preservation is helped by Wrigley rarely being used in October. Hahahaaaa! Well if Wrigley does become a safety hazard come playoff time, maybe the Cubs can play at Great American instead. Their fans seem to be able to flood the place when the Cubs are in town. The Reds sure won't be using it in October for probably a decade. Tough to watch Chapman in blue pinstripes but at least he is on a team with aspirations of winning and not a Maserati parked in the garage of a crumbling house anymore. The Cubs made an investment in Wrigley (this was a thinly veiled suggestion that the University needs to do the same with Peden) - if in use the stadium in Chicago will not collapse. We only worry about the Cubs - But #54 does look sweet in cubbie blue! #gocubsgo "The name's Ohio University, but everybody calls me Ohio. Any of you guys call me Ohio U, and I'll kill you." Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,155 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 10:17:45 AM  GoCats105 wrote: Robert Fox wrote: GoCats105 wrote: Alan Swank wrote: The piece of concrete that fell is decorative in nature - about 30 inches by 60 inches by 9 inches thick. It fell from the face of the southwest corner where the stadium and Carin Center connect. It pretty well destroyed an A/C unit. Where it fell, no one was in danger of getting hit. The area is now fenced off. I'm sending Ted pictures to post. Regardless of where and how this particular piece fell, if there are pieces falling we better hope it doesn't happen again in a place that could cause potential problems. I have faith the administrators are aware of that. You do not? That's not what I'm saying at all. I just don't think people can play this off as a casual, "oh well some concrete fell." If they were aware of the problem, this piece would not have fallen in the first place. Stuff happens. They're not all knowing. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,552 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 10:22:58 AM  This reminds me how much I am looking forward to faculty senate telling me I don't have the right to donate my money to a renovation of Peden. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top Robert Fox General User Member Since: 11/16/2004 Location: Knoxville, TN Post Count: 2,039 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 10:51:16 AM  colobobcat66 wrote: GoCats105 wrote: Robert Fox wrote: GoCats105 wrote: Alan Swank wrote: The piece of concrete that fell is decorative in nature - about 30 inches by 60 inches by 9 inches thick. It fell from the face of the southwest corner where the stadium and Carin Center connect. It pretty well destroyed an A/C unit. Where it fell, no one was in danger of getting hit. The area is now fenced off. I'm sending Ted pictures to post. Regardless of where and how this particular piece fell, if there are pieces falling we better hope it doesn't happen again in a place that could cause potential problems. I have faith the administrators are aware of that. You do not? That's not what I'm saying at all. I just don't think people can play this off as a casual, "oh well some concrete fell." If they were aware of the problem, this piece would not have fallen in the first place. Stuff happens. They're not all knowing. So you don't think that, given this recent failure, the powers-that-be know that a structural review should be made to ensure no further danger exists? You are really that low in confidence? Back to Top Fake Monroe General User Member Since: 6/21/2016 Post Count: 16 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 11:18:13 AM  11 years with this rotten coaching staff and no MACC. What do you expect? Stadium falling apart = program falling apart. Got to purge the campus of all Republicans, including our CONSERVATIVE, Republican coaches. Wasn't Hillary great last night? Now, that's leadership. #nomaccundersolich #wedontacceptnomediocrity #worstdivisionofworstleagueinthehistoryofcollegefootballbarnone #RNCRNCwellnevervoteforbillionarebagofwindracisthomophobesexisttrump Back to Top Mark Lembright '85 General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Highland Heights, OH Post Count: 2,447 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 12:19:49 PM  The Optimist wrote: This reminds me how much I am looking forward to faculty senate telling me I don't have the right to donate my money to a renovation of Peden. Touche! Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,022 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 1:56:54 PM  The Optimist wrote: This reminds me how much I am looking forward to faculty senate telling me I don't have the right to donate my money to a renovation of Peden. You're going to wait a very long time because they have not said and never will say that. Back to Top Ted Thompson Administrator Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: MAC Play Post Count: 7,395 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 2:59:15 PM  Alan Swank wrote: The piece of concrete that fell is decorative in nature - about 30 inches by 60 inches by 9 inches thick. It fell from the face of the southwest corner where the stadium and Carin Center connect. It pretty well destroyed an A/C unit. Where it fell, no one was in danger of getting hit. The area is now fenced off. I'm sending Ted pictures to post.  http://www.bobcatattack.com//images/other/IMG_2891.jpg http://www.bobcatattack.com//images/other/IMG_2892.jpg http://www.bobcatattack.com//images/other/IMG_2893.jpg       Follow Ohio Football recruiting on the BobcatAttack.com football recruiting database. Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 3:31:51 PM  Ted Thompson wrote: Alan Swank wrote: The piece of concrete that fell is decorative in nature - about 30 inches by 60 inches by 9 inches thick. It fell from the face of the southwest corner where the stadium and Carin Center connect. It pretty well destroyed an A/C unit. Where it fell, no one was in danger of getting hit. The area is now fenced off. I'm sending Ted pictures to post. http://www.bobcatattack.com//images/other/IMG_2891.jpg http://www.bobcatattack.com//images/other/IMG_2892.jpg http://www.bobcatattack.com//images/other/IMG_2893.jpg ? How many such decorative features are there on Peden? I presume all are the same age with similar structural integrity. "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top ytownbobcat General User Member Since: 8/7/2006 Post Count: 1,253 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 3:34:06 PM  Last year while at Cambridge University outside of London I was told that the buildings on their campus are maintained to be "Infinitely Sustainable" Back to Top Robert Fox General User Member Since: 11/16/2004 Location: Knoxville, TN Post Count: 2,039 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 3:40:49 PM  Wasn't this brick work and decorative concrete added during some relatively recent renovation? Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 4:45:00 PM  Robert Fox wrote: Wasn't this brick work and decorative concrete added during some relatively recent renovation? The tower, which was built in 1991 had this decorative feature added, in an effort to match the existing structure. That decorative work in question dates to construction in 1929. What you cannot see in those photos is that the fallen stone, is directly over a door way from the weight room hallway. Back to Top Robert Fox General User Member Since: 11/16/2004 Location: Knoxville, TN Post Count: 2,039 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 7:15:02 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: Robert Fox wrote: Wasn't this brick work and decorative concrete added during some relatively recent renovation? The tower, which was built in 1991 had this decorative feature added, in an effort to match the existing structure. That decorative work in question dates to construction in 1929. What you cannot see in those photos is that the fallen stone, is directly over a door way from the weight room hallway. That's more serious then and could have killed somebody. If I understand you properly, and this is the old part of the structure, then the university will probably have to inspect all of the matching decorative concrete for stability. Being done in 1929 would probably explain why this concrete was not tied to the brick work with rebar or galvanized steel. Back to Top Mike Johnson General User Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: North Canton, OH Post Count: 1,706 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 7:36:05 PM  Robert Fox wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Robert Fox wrote: Wasn't this brick work and decorative concrete added during some relatively recent renovation? The tower, which was built in 1991 had this decorative feature added, in an effort to match the existing structure. That decorative work in question dates to construction in 1929. What you cannot see in those photos is that the fallen stone, is directly over a door way from the weight room hallway. That's more serious then and could have killed somebody. If I understand you properly, and this is the old part of the structure, then the university will probably have to inspect all of the matching decorative concrete for stability. Being done in 1929 would probably explain why this concrete was not tied to the brick work with rebar or galvanized steel. Hey Rob, did you ever give thought as to how 1000-year-old gargoyles are affixed to cathedrals and such? A few years ago I saw some undergoing restoration and was surprised that hollow metal tubing is the answer. http://www.facebook.com/mikejohnson.author Back to Top Robert Fox General User Member Since: 11/16/2004 Location: Knoxville, TN Post Count: 2,039 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 9:00:05 PM  Mike Johnson wrote: Robert Fox wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Robert Fox wrote: Wasn't this brick work and decorative concrete added during some relatively recent renovation? The tower, which was built in 1991 had this decorative feature added, in an effort to match the existing structure. That decorative work in question dates to construction in 1929. What you cannot see in those photos is that the fallen stone, is directly over a door way from the weight room hallway. That's more serious then and could have killed somebody. If I understand you properly, and this is the old part of the structure, then the university will probably have to inspect all of the matching decorative concrete for stability. Being done in 1929 would probably explain why this concrete was not tied to the brick work with rebar or galvanized steel. Hey Rob, did you ever give thought as to how 1000-year-old gargoyles are affixed to cathedrals and such? A few years ago I saw some undergoing restoration and was surprised that hollow metal tubing is the answer. Hello Mike! Haven't thought much about gargoyles but I do wonder about the longevity of roman pillars and the like. No rebar there, or anything like it. Yet it continues to stand. Interesting that 1,000 year old gargoyles would have that type of reinforcement. I suppose it's some sort of iron. Not sure when that technology started. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 10:06:46 PM  Robert Fox wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Robert Fox wrote: Wasn't this brick work and decorative concrete added during some relatively recent renovation? The tower, which was built in 1991 had this decorative feature added, in an effort to match the existing structure. That decorative work in question dates to construction in 1929. What you cannot see in those photos is that the fallen stone, is directly over a door way from the weight room hallway. That's more serious then and could have killed somebody. If I understand you properly, and this is the old part of the structure, then the university will probably have to inspect all of the matching decorative concrete for stability. Being done in 1929 would probably explain why this concrete was not tied to the brick work with rebar or galvanized steel. This is part of the original structure located on the South end of the east stands. Currently all the perimeter of the old stadium is gated off under the stone work. Back to Top perimeterpost General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 3,165 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 10:18:28 PM  colobobcat66 wrote: rpbobcat wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: Buildings aren't made to last forever. As an engineer I would argue that, if properly built and maintained,structures (I wouldn't call Peden a building) can last pretty much forever. Examples? Has it been properly maintained? Concrete crumbles, iron rusts, paint peals, toilets leak, etc. I'm not seeing it, but I'll defer to the expert. Examples? the Pyramids, the Parthenon, the Collosseum, all slightly older than Peden and still standing. MY STATE. MY TEAM. Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,155 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/29/2016 11:47:01 PM  perimeterpost wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: rpbobcat wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: Buildings aren't made to last forever. As an engineer I would argue that, if properly built and maintained,structures (I wouldn't call Peden a building) can last pretty much forever. Examples? Has it been properly maintained? Concrete crumbles, iron rusts, paint peals, toilets leak, etc. I'm not seeing it, but I'll defer to the expert. Examples? the Pyramids, the Parthenon, the Collosseum, all slightly older than Peden and still standing. You're kidding, right? They're standing, but they are crumbling remains of what they were and have been restored in various ways to keep them standing(particularly the latter two). They are most certainly not functional as they were intended. They are historical ruins. Last Edited: 7/29/2016 11:49:33 PM by colobobcat66 Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/30/2016 1:41:41 AM  Fake Monroe wrote: 11 years with this rotten coaching staff and no MACC. What do you expect? Stadium falling apart = program falling apart. Got to purge the campus of all Republicans, including our CONSERVATIVE, Republican coaches. Wasn't Hillary great last night? Now, that's leadership. #nomaccundersolich #wedontacceptnomediocrity #worstdivisionofworstleagueinthehistoryofcollegefootballbarnone #RNCRNCwellnevervoteforbillionarebagofwindracisthomophobesexisttrump My man! Reminds us that there are only two places where it's held that Solich has 11 years into the weakass MAC won a MACC: the minds of the SFB and in the land of Fake Monroe ('cause not in the land of real Monroe). This is stellar work: Since, and including, Miami in 2012 stopping our string of consecutive wins to start the year, we're 23-21. That includes wins over these powers: 2012 EMU....2013 Austin Peay, EMU, Miami, UMass....2014 Idaho, E Illinoi, Miami....2015 Idaho, SE Lousiana, Miami That's some football or what. #alltheabovehashtagized Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/30/2016 6:57:07 AM  Monroe Slavin wrote: Fake Monroe wrote: 11 years with this rotten coaching staff and no MACC. What do you expect? Stadium falling apart = program falling apart. Got to purge the campus of all Republicans, including our CONSERVATIVE, Republican coaches. Wasn't Hillary great last night? Now, that's leadership. #nomaccundersolich #wedontacceptnomediocrity #worstdivisionofworstleagueinthehistoryofcollegefootballbarnone #RNCRNCwellnevervoteforbillionarebagofwindracisthomophobesexisttrump My man! Reminds us that there are only two places where it's held that Solich has 11 years into the weakass MAC won a MACC: the minds of the SFB and in the land of Fake Monroe ('cause not in the land of real Monroe). This is stellar work: Since, and including, Miami in 2012 stopping our string of consecutive wins to start the year, we're 23-21. That includes wins over these powers: 2012 EMU....2013 Austin Peay, EMU, Miami, UMass....2014 Idaho, E Illinoi, Miami....2015 Idaho, SE Lousiana, Miami That's some football or what. #alltheabovehashtagized Definitely refusing the Kool-Aid. What is it you are drinking Monroe? "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top Mike Johnson General User Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: North Canton, OH Post Count: 1,706 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/30/2016 7:55:59 AM  colobobcat66 wrote: perimeterpost wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: rpbobcat wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: Buildings aren't made to last forever. As an engineer I would argue that, if properly built and maintained,structures (I wouldn't call Peden a building) can last pretty much forever. Examples? Has it been properly maintained? Concrete crumbles, iron rusts, paint peals, toilets leak, etc. I'm not seeing it, but I'll defer to the expert. Examples? the Pyramids, the Parthenon, the Collosseum, all slightly older than Peden and still standing. You're kidding, right? They're standing, but they are crumbling remains of what they were and have been restored in various ways to keep them standing(particularly the latter two). They are most certainly not functional as they were intended. They are historical ruins. And then there is the remarkable Pantheon which, after 2,000 years, is very much intact and open to visitors. Its intact dome is a marvel of engineering. http://www.facebook.com/mikejohnson.author Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,155 Status: Offline     RE: Peden concrete falling.    Posted: 7/30/2016 9:50:34 AM  Mike Johnson wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: perimeterpost wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: rpbobcat wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: Buildings aren't made to last forever. As an engineer I would argue that, if properly built and maintained,structures (I wouldn't call Peden a building) can last pretty much forever. Examples? Has it been properly maintained? Concrete crumbles, iron rusts, paint peals, toilets leak, etc. I'm not seeing it, but I'll defer to the expert. Examples? the Pyramids, the Parthenon, the Collosseum, all slightly older than Peden and still standing. You're kidding, right? They're standing, but they are crumbling remains of what they were and have been restored in various ways to keep them standing(particularly the latter two). They are most certainly not functional as they were intended. They are historical ruins. And then there is the remarkable Pantheon which, after 2,000 years, is very much intact and open to visitors. Its intact dome is a marvel of engineering. You got me on that one, I was thinking of the Parthenon, not Pantheon. 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