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cc-cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Athlon Ranking Coaches
   Posted: 6/8/2016 2:28:58 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:


This is number 1 from a customer point of view - meet or exceed the customer's expectations....



Excellent, excellent point. And if you look at OUr customer base, Frank is still today exceeding the wants and expectations of the VAST majority.

Last Edited: 6/8/2016 2:29:47 PM by cc-cat
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Monroe Slavin
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   Posted: 6/8/2016 3:56:19 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
L.C. wrote:
. . . People often pay lip service to concepts like freedom of speech or freedom of religion, but don't see their own flaws, and don't realize that they themselves actively attempt to suppress views contrary to their own.


I will not be drawn into this ongoing and rather tedious discussion, but I do want to acknowledge that L.C. has once again hit the nail on the head with the above statement.



Please stop being incorrect and reflecting the views of only those who agree with you.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Athlon Ranking Coaches
   Posted: 6/8/2016 5:26:46 PM 
Robert Fox wrote:
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For LC, the goal is more nuanced, but it's generally: Winning consistently at a pace that puts Ohio at or near the top of the MAC. LC considers the other necessities a value in assessing a coach, but those necessities are somewhat secondary to the overall goal.

That's my take of their individual points of view. I could be wrong.

That's fairly close. In my opinion few other MAC coaches have accomplished the bulk of the things on the list, therefore it strike me as odd to consider them as "bare minimums". Thus I consider each of them as adding some value. Furthermore, because of the things he has accomplished, with each passing year I consider the possibility of a quick return to the bottom of the MAC as less likely.

In addition to what you have said, I like to see ongoing progress, too. Again, there is disagreement on this. Certainly 2013-15 was not as good as 2009-2012, but is that the proper comparison? For some, yes. For me, no. I believe 2013-5 was a down period that should more properly be compared to 2007-8. Thus, for me the comparison looks like this:
Good part of the cycle:
2009-2012 > 2006

Bad part of the cycle:
2013-5>2007-9>2005

We will soon add another data point, as we are now entering the next good part of the cycle. How will 2016-2018 look, a few years from now? Will it be true that 2016-18>2009-2012>2006? If so, then we are still seeing progress. If not, then we are seeing stagnation.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

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  Message Not Read  RE: Athlon Ranking Coaches
   Posted: 6/8/2016 7:59:28 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Robert Fox wrote:
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For LC, the goal is more nuanced, but it's generally: Winning consistently at a pace that puts Ohio at or near the top of the MAC. LC considers the other necessities a value in assessing a coach, but those necessities are somewhat secondary to the overall goal.

That's my take of their individual points of view. I could be wrong.

That's fairly close. In my opinion few other MAC coaches have accomplished the bulk of the things on the list, therefore it strike me as odd to consider them as "bare minimums". Thus I consider each of them as adding some value. Furthermore, because of the things he has accomplished, with each passing year I consider the possibility of a quick return to the bottom of the MAC as less likely.

In addition to what you have said, I like to see ongoing progress, too. Again, there is disagreement on this. Certainly 2013-15 was not as good as 2009-2012, but is that the proper comparison? For some, yes. For me, no. I believe 2013-5 was a down period that should more properly be compared to 2007-8. Thus, for me the comparison looks like this:
Good part of the cycle:
2009-2012 > 2006

Bad part of the cycle:
2013-5>2007-9>2005

We will soon add another data point, as we are now entering the next good part of the cycle. How will 2016-2018 look, a few years from now? Will it be true that 2016-18>2009-2012>2006? If so, then we are still seeing progress. If not, then we are seeing stagnation.


Basically, are the lows higher and will the highs be higher too?

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