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Topic: RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Topic: RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

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Bobcatbob
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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/20/2016 10:34:59 AM

CA Bobcat wrote:

..... the overall experience would be improved. To suggest otherwise is just ignorant. .... and to enhance the experience.

Seriously? It's a college football game. Take a few hours off.

What I never want to see is Peden or the Convo become a place where drinking leads to an atmosphere that discourages families from bringing their future Bobcats to enjoy the "experience".

Pataskala
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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/20/2016 11:34:33 AM

OhioStunter wrote:

Miami is only selling Chardonnay.

EMU should sell medical marijuana.

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/20/2016 2:49:24 PM

I believe the beer and "family experience" can coexist. I like to go to pro games and it seems to work. It is worth a try on the reserve side.

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/20/2016 6:38:04 PM

Pataskala wrote:

OhioStunter wrote:

Miami is only selling Chardonnay.

EMU should sell medical marijuana.

OMG! This is hilarious. Or synthetic! LOL!

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/20/2016 6:38:41 PM

Bobcatbob wrote:

CA Bobcat wrote:

..... the overall experience would be improved. To suggest otherwise is just ignorant. .... and to enhance the experience.

Take a few hours off! Said no Bobcat ever! LOL! Just kidding!

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/20/2016 6:40:26 PM

Kinggeorge4 wrote:

I believe the beer and "family experience" can coexist. I like to go to pro games and it seems to work. It is worth a try on the reserve side.

I would like to see us test it for one year and if it creates a great experience, let's keep it. If it fosters a negative experience, let's scratch it. I think students would stay longer at games and I would love to see ESPN highlights of our crazy fans. They may have beer pong in the stands or something crazy!

CA Bobcat
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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/20/2016 10:20:12 PM

That's old school thinking. It's more than a college football game these days and to remain relevant, you have to adapt.

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/21/2016 12:06:50 AM

colobobcat66 wrote:

Alan Swank wrote:

the123kid wrote:

Not selling beer at games is one of the most obnoxious things about college sports.

From an OU perspective it would certainly help attendance and student attendance in particular. It would bring more casual fans to the games who wouldn't have to sacrifice drinking time. It would also lead to people staying at the games longer.

And people wonder why we are called a party school.

Which people?

+1

How many national championships in partying do we need to win for people to stop wondering?

I've seen crazier things happen.

Campus Flow
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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/21/2016 11:48:18 AM

They've decided at Ohio to make the beer tent a donor perk.

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/21/2016 1:13:55 PM

Uncle Wes wrote:

They've decided at Ohio to make the beer tent a donor perk.

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2016/05/03/walking-past-fir...

Monroe Slavin
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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/22/2016 1:46:47 PM

C Money wrote:

Ohio69 wrote:

On the one hand, what's the big deal, can't we survive 4 hours without a beer?

Four hours without a beer? Sure. Four hours of __UTM without a beer? No.

This should be its own thread.

UTM.

UTM.

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Yes.

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Last Edited: 5/22/2016 1:47:20 PM by Monroe Slavin

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/23/2016 12:18:16 PM

CA Bobcat wrote:

Attendance would increase, student attendance would increase and sustain through most of the game and the overall experience would be improved. To suggest otherwise is just ignorant. There's a reason every major professional venue sells alcohol at events and it's not to keep attendees well hydrated. It's to make money and to enhance the experience.

I'm in agreement about making money. Increasing the actual attendance, I'm not in agreement, though I can see how a small bump in student attendance could occur. Sustaining the student attendance, I can see the thought process there. I'd be interested to see some actual data from places that have been doing this for a little while. I'm thinking of BG, where they've done it for a couple years.

I'm not sure how anyone being able to have a beer or two at the game enhances the experience. It should enhance revenue, which is why I'd be in favor of it. For football games, most of us have spent more than enough time beforehand tailgating and/or at a bar, that I don't see the real benefit in "enhanced" gameday experience.

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/23/2016 12:32:20 PM

ExCat21 wrote:

Kinggeorge4 wrote:

I believe the beer and "family experience" can coexist. I like to go to pro games and it seems to work. It is worth a try on the reserve side.

I would like to see us test it for one year and if it creates a great experience, let's keep it. If it fosters a negative experience, let's scratch it. I think students would stay longer at games....

I think the experiment would be worthwhile, but there's a lot to get sorted out. It's not as easy as, hey, let's just sell beer in the stadium now. Policing the student sections to avoid underage drinking is probably a chief concern at Peden. In the Convo, it would seem to be easier to handle that.

If my memory serves me correctly, places that choose to sell beer only do so until the end of the 3rd Quarter. Is that enough of a draw to keep people at the game longer? I don't know. Sitting on steel bleachers through lengthy (boring) TV timeouts might have more to do with people leaving early than not being able to get that beer.

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/23/2016 3:24:06 PM

There are people who do not tailgate (crazy I know). I think it can help with people in this boat. Along with beer, I'd like to see a serious upgrade in concessions food. All of this would add to the atmosphere along with winning too. I'm not sure any of this changes things with the students, winning and excitement could help there.

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GEORGE

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/23/2016 4:17:22 PM

Great point on the concessions. Frankly, that might go further with me than beer would, especially at The Convo. Imagining week night games, I could get to the game and have "dinner" at the game instead of racing to Athens to get something before the game. And OU makes the money instead of, say, BW3, or some other uptown establishment.

Monroe Slavin
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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/24/2016 4:13:54 AM

More likely to boost attendance, revenue/contributions (from all sources), fan enthusiasm: alcohol or MAC title?

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/24/2016 8:12:01 AM

OU_Country wrote:

I think the food and beer go together toward the overall fan experience. If we can offer something unique in those areas, people will enjoy coming to the games for the overall gameday experience.

The very best college football programs all have special gameday atmospheres. That doesn't mean they have great concession offerings, but if we do have that, it'll only help. Right now, I would argue concessions are not only failing to positively contribute, but actually having a negative impact on gameday experience.

Last Edited: 5/24/2016 8:13:30 AM by The Optimist

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/24/2016 8:14:33 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

More likely to boost attendance, revenue/contributions (from all sources), fan enthusiasm: alcohol or MAC title?

Given the massive indifference within our fan base, I'd say that's a good question. And no, I didn't miss your point.

Kinggeorge4
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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/24/2016 8:32:44 AM

Monroe,
I think that the answer is both. Winning will always draw people in. Improved atmosphere will keep them around too. We need to do both. The coaches need to win and the rest of the Athletic Department needs to improve the game day experience. I love to tailgate and will continue. But wouldn't it be nice if I ever was jammed for time but knew I could go to Peden and get some awesome food and a beer with my family and watch my Bobcats. Right now, there is nothing I want there. I'm not saying the alcohol is a magic pill to make it all better. It is just one very small piece. There are many steps and winning is one of if not the most important step.

GO BOBCATS
GEORGE

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/24/2016 11:44:43 AM

It sure would be nice to have an ice cold beer and a grilled brat on gameday from a food truck (preferably from a local who established their own business to put money in their pocket). I think the overall tailgating experience would improve especially if there were 5+ food trucks with a variety of food to purchase. My mouth is watering up thinking about it.

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/24/2016 1:38:41 PM

Robert Fox wrote:

Monroe Slavin wrote:

More likely to boost attendance, revenue/contributions (from all sources), fan enthusiasm: alcohol or MAC title?

Given the massive indifference within our fan base, I'd say that's a good question. And no, I didn't miss your point.

If you think our fans are indifferent, what do you think about the rest of the MAC? Game day in Athens is still a pretty neat thing to experience without the 95,000 fans that the football factories draw. Game night in Athens is not as much fun for me particularly in November. Lots of things to improve upon, but it's still a fun experience and a lot more fun when we win.

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/24/2016 4:24:33 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

Robert Fox wrote:

Monroe Slavin wrote:

More likely to boost attendance, revenue/contributions (from all sources), fan enthusiasm: alcohol or MAC title?

Given the massive indifference within our fan base, I'd say that's a good question. And no, I didn't miss your point.

Game day in Athens is a fun experience, yes. But I still say our fans are (largely) indifferent. Of course they hope we win, but the fan behavior is not exactly... fanatical. They clap politely at appropriate times. They ask you to sit down if you're blocking their view of the field. They whine about poor concessions and the PA drowning out the band. They hope we win, but hey, if we lose, they won't lose any sleep over it.

That's not necessarily a bad thing, just an observation. Would a MAC Title suddenly result in sell-out crowds the following season? I don't think so.

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/24/2016 5:22:22 PM

(Opening a can of worms)

I think we aren't fanatical at football games because we're more of a basketball school at heart.

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/24/2016 6:05:45 PM

Robert Fox wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

Robert Fox wrote:

Monroe Slavin wrote:

More likely to boost attendance, revenue/contributions (from all sources), fan enthusiasm: alcohol or MAC title?

Given the massive indifference within our fan base, I'd say that's a good question. And no, I didn't miss your point.

Fan behavior is one thing, but many fans drive for hours( or in my case fly for hours) to get to see the Bobcats. That's not indifferent by my definition. We probably lost our fanaticism after so many years past of being terrible. I can take what we have here.

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RE: Miami Selling Alcohol at Games Now

Posted: 5/24/2016 7:55:41 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

I'm not saying ALL fans are indifferent, but I think many/most are. I agree our years of being dismal probably still hurts our fandom.

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