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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 5/25/2016 2:33:44 PM 
Ted Thompson wrote:
According to this article, Conference USA goes with ESPN and TV rights drop from $14M to $5M. Their deal with ESPN looks exactly like the deal the MAC has (other than the dollars).
http://pilotonline.com/sports/college/old-dominion/source...



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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 5/25/2016 3:46:30 PM 
Looks like B10 will cut back on the games they'll have on ESPN, or cut them out altogether, starting in '17. If it happens, that should make more primo slots open on ESPN/ABC. Which may mean more Saturday TV games for the MAC.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 5/25/2016 10:23:38 PM 
Thanks, Ted, for posting this. The key quote for me, was:

"Rights fees paid to the league are expected to drop significantly from the $14 million per year guaranteed by Fox and CBS Sports five years. Media outlets report that CBS Sports rights fees alone dropped from $7 million to $1 million."

The economic arguments in favor of the advantages of C-USA seem to be disappearing before our very eyes.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 5/25/2016 10:28:39 PM 
Here's a tweet from a Herd beat reporter about the revenue-

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I'm hearing the wrong side of $7M over 2 years. With room to spare, maybe.


$3.5M/yr for 2yrs, divided by 14 teams, is not good.




https://twitter.com/dougsmock/status/735480817061793792


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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 5/26/2016 3:42:40 AM 
http://www.latimes.com/sports/ucla/la-sp-0525-ucla-under-...

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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 5/26/2016 9:15:03 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Thanks, Ted, for posting this. The key quote for me, was:

"Rights fees paid to the league are expected to drop significantly from the $14 million per year guaranteed by Fox and CBS Sports five years. Media outlets report that CBS Sports rights fees alone dropped from $7 million to $1 million."

The economic arguments in favor of the advantages of C-USA seem to be disappearing before our very eyes.



perimeterpost wrote:
Here's a tweet from a Herd beat reporter about the revenue-

Quote:
I'm hearing the wrong side of $7M over 2 years. With room to spare, maybe.


$3.5M/yr for 2yrs, divided by 14 teams, is not good.


https://twitter.com/dougsmock/status/735480817061793792



If you read some more of Doug Smock's timeline, you realize more and more that C-USA is not a better situation for any Midwest team, including Marshall, than the MAC. Cross country travel expenses, frustrations about tournament locations, declining TV revenue, declining basketball RPI....

And all along the way, they think they'll be a great fit for the AAC. Interesting to say the least.

Last Edited: 5/26/2016 9:15:47 AM by OU_Country

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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 5/26/2016 12:56:02 PM 
Am I right in concluding that it seems that the MAC and CUSA will have approximately equal contracts in terms of overall money, but that the MAC schools will come out a little ahead because the money will be split up 14 ways in CUSA but only 12 ways in the MAC?
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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 5/26/2016 1:06:57 PM 
I wonder how many CUSA schools already spent the money that is no longer going to be coming in. I'm guessing all of them.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 5/26/2016 3:25:24 PM 
Ohio69 wrote:
I wonder how many CUSA schools already spent the money that is no longer going to be coming in. I'm guessing all of them.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 5/27/2016 7:44:14 AM 
Jeff McKinney wrote:
Am I right in concluding that it seems that the MAC and CUSA will have approximately equal contracts in terms of overall money, but that the MAC schools will come out a little ahead because the money will be split up 14 ways in CUSA but only 12 ways in the MAC?


It goes beyond the money differences. CUSA has only 5 appearances on ESPN in football with its new contract. The MAC has 14 guaranteed ESPN appearances. CUSA has 6 appearances on CBS, the MAC has up to 12 appearances on CBS. The MAC has a better contract from every angle.

http://www.hustlebelt.com/2014/8/19/6045303/explaining-th...
http://www.mac-sports.com/news/2015/6/2/FB_0602151727.aspx
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/college-gri...


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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 5/27/2016 1:09:01 PM 
Jeff McKinney wrote:
Am I right in concluding that it seems that the MAC and CUSA will have approximately equal contracts in terms of overall money, but that the MAC schools will come out a little ahead because the money will be split up 14 ways in CUSA but only 12 ways in the MAC?

If I read it right, CUSA gets $5 million/14 schools=$357k each, while MAC gets $8 million/12 schools=$667k each, nearly twice.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 5/27/2016 5:17:57 PM 
Who's being the good Bobcat and trolling the Marshall boards with this?
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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 5/30/2016 11:46:27 AM 
L.C. wrote:
Jeff McKinney wrote:
Am I right in concluding that it seems that the MAC and CUSA will have approximately equal contracts in terms of overall money, but that the MAC schools will come out a little ahead because the money will be split up 14 ways in CUSA but only 12 ways in the MAC?

If I read it right, CUSA gets $5 million/14 schools=$357k each, while MAC gets $8 million/12 schools=$667k each, nearly twice.


CUSA $3.5 million/14 schools=$250k each, MAC $10 million/12 schools=$833k each. Its about a 600k difference and then the MAC earned 5 million more in playoff money which divided 12 ways is another 400k. Its about a 1 million dollar swing in the favor of the MAC without counting travel savings. Marshall is caught on the wrong side of realignment like they were last time they left the MAC joining the Southern Conference.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 7/3/2016 2:57:04 PM 
Per OCF's former student and everyone's favorite T'erdite curmudgeon, Marshall's athletic budget situation is even worse than initially thought. Not only are they losing the TV revenue, but the university is likely cutting an additional $700,000 in transfers to athletics from its general operating budget.

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/marshall_sports/chu...


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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 7/4/2016 10:43:33 PM 
C Money wrote:
Per OCF's former student and everyone's favorite T'erdite curmudgeon, Marshall's athletic budget situation is even worse than initially thought. Not only are they losing the TV revenue, but the university is likely cutting an additional $700,000 in transfers to athletics from its general operating budget.

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/marshall_sports/chu...


I'd say the answer for Marhsall would be to drop baseball which doesn't have an on campus facility but they are down to the FBS minimum 16 sports.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 7/4/2016 11:15:37 PM 
Interestingly, they just had a good baseball season.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The MAC TV deal's looking better
   Posted: 7/5/2016 9:39:35 AM 
I think CUSA requires baseball. Otherwise, Marshall would have already dropped it, as they don't have an on campus stadium (they play conference games in Charleston and non-conf at the local YMCA field, IIRC).

My guess is that Marshall finds a wealthy donor to cover this year's shortfall (they have a couple currently running for governor, which would be an awfully convenient way to score some political goodwill).
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