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BEG
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Spring Game

Posted: 1/28/2016 3:47:09 PM

Any idea when the Spring Game will be? Last year it was the day before Easter, but Easter is in March this year. I really like going to that sale they have.

MaMaKitty
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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 1/29/2016 11:23:58 AM

April 9th

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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 2/14/2016 1:22:34 PM

Are we having a sale this year??

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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/8/2016 7:21:00 PM

What time?

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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/8/2016 8:44:18 PM

Sale is before spring game, so noon? very sad I canthink get there. Anyone who grabs an extra hoops J can message me. I'd love am N'dour or Tony tanky.

Sadly I'm xxl now. Ha!

C Money
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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/9/2016 3:12:05 PM

I hope this is the best defense in MAC history, because if not, woof.....

L.C.
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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/9/2016 6:01:22 PM

C Money wrote:

I hope this is the best defense in MAC history, because if not, woof.....

I said I expect the defense to be scary good. Nothing I saw in Arkley's tweets has changed my opinions. As for where the offense is, that remains to be seen, but it is my hope that the Bobcats will give up less than 20 points a game this fall.

From the stats "The offense put up 67-yards on the ground and 126 through the air including scoring its only touchdown on a pass. The Ohio offense also did not surrender any turnovers in the competition."

This was in 80 plays, about the number a team would have in a normal game.

The defense seems to have answered my only questions about it, which were can they develop depth at linebacker (Yes), and can the secondary be rebuilt (Yes). Solich was not happy with the offense, but conceded that the defense probably had something to do with it.

Last Edited: 4/9/2016 6:34:03 PM by L.C.

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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/9/2016 11:58:45 PM

The defense wins every year and they hold the backs o low yards. The huge difference here is they are going against John Carroll level QB's. We will see when we play a team that scores points. Right now, they are able to pin their ears back and they know the plays because they see them everyday. I hope they are very good.

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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/10/2016 4:06:58 AM

I quickly read the re-cap on OHIOBOBCATS.com and saw very little mention of defensive players who played a lot last year.

Taking spring ball as indication of much doesn't seem a good way to predict. Too many variables in terms of guys out due to injury, playing against our own team and such.

I'll believe that the movie has changed when I see it.

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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/10/2016 4:09:20 AM

I do predict that, in an era when getting qb pressure is so very important, that we won't get much pressure from our D-linemen and won't present more than the usual rather limited, vanilla package and amount of blitz schemes.

Leading to not a particularly great number or sax or qb hurries and about every experienced qb we faced at least somewhat having his way with us.

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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/10/2016 7:36:37 AM

Monroe's special Kool-Aid, from his own recipe, concocted from yellow snow.

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L.C.
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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/10/2016 10:27:13 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

I quickly read the re-cap on OHIOBOBCATS.com and saw very little mention of defensive players who played a lot last year. ...

Most starters were either held out completely, or didn't play much. The scrimmage primarily showed what we already knew, that there is much better depth on defense than offense. It did show a couple key things, though. One is that there is new depth at linebacker, and that the defensive backs are going to be OK. While it didn't answer any of my offensive questions, it did answer my defensive questions.

Holding out the starters is an interesting strategy. That way the backups got more reps, so perhaps, if there are injuries in the fall, the backups will be more ready to step in.

Last Edited: 4/10/2016 11:09:27 AM by L.C.

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Alan Swank
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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/10/2016 10:56:09 AM

Bcat2 wrote:

Monroe's special Kool-Aid, from his own recipe, concocted from yellow snow.

Hey - enough with the snow comments - we had some this week in Athens and I for one am ready for spring to be here - for good.

Monroe Slavin
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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/10/2016 11:26:34 AM

L.C. wrote:

Monroe Slavin wrote:

I quickly read the re-cap on OHIOBOBCATS.com and saw very little mention of defensive players who played a lot last year. ...

Maybe. Maybe not.

Yes, the backups got reps. But pretty much we can't tell the quality of our team until they play other schools. I mean if our backup D dominated against our backup O, then was the D great or the O bad or both or were both good but the D better or both bad ??

One offset to that would be video or eye-witness reports of guys who REALLY STOOD OUT DOMINATED during the scrimmage. Haven't seen any such reporting.

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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/10/2016 1:05:23 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

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Yes, the backups got reps. But pretty much we can't tell the quality of our team until they play other schools. ...

Yes, this is true. You never really know, anything, from scrimmages. In the end we have no choice but to wait for fall, and then we'll find out for sure. I'm looking forward to that. I read nothing this Spring that has changed my opinion that this will be a very good team, and a few things that encouraged me that it might be better in some areas than I expected. Conversely, I expect that you read nothing that changed your opinion, either. So, now we wait, until time proves one or the other of us correct.

Next up, though, in a month or so we'll start getting some preseason magazines, and they will fall on one side or the other. I expect most of them to pick Ohio in the top 2 in the East, but again, the championship will have to be won on the field, not in magazines.

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Alan Swank
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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/10/2016 5:07:14 PM

L.C. wrote:

Monroe Slavin wrote:

...
Yes, the backups got reps. But pretty much we can't tell the quality of our team until they play other schools. ...

LC - do you think the big question at quarterback will have any bearing on the magazines predictions?

L.C.
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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/10/2016 6:36:02 PM

Yes, Alan, I'm sure it will. I presume the magazines will pencil in Sprague as the starter. I doubt they will factor in that he was playing last fall with a bad shoulder, so I think they will underestimate him somewhat. That's why I think the consensus will probably have Ohio 2d, though I think Ohio will win the East.

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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/11/2016 8:19:20 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

I'm curious why you make this statement. Our front seven on defense looks to be the strength of our team. Basham, Laseak, Sayles and Poling who led our team in sacks last year all return. I see no reason to think we shouldn't improve in this category from last years number.

The big key I'm zeroed in on will be our young but talented secondary coming together quickly.

I've seen crazier things happen.

Monroe Slavin
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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/11/2016 10:31:17 AM

Were you impressed with our pass rush strength and scheme last year...or the prior years?

Is this staff prone to use the d-line to contain (as opposed to using it to make plays)?

Is this coaching staff noted for its ability to adapt (with the one exception of changing to a more passing oriented attack after the one bowl blow out)?

The same people who blast me for pasting the same thing over and over again...albeit the facts/game results prove me right, though they won't admit it...can't see that our coaching staff is incapable of change.

C Money
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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/11/2016 12:19:39 PM

Disclaimers about spring game, starters weren't playing, tough to make assessments, etc....

But our offense had 14 possessions and went 3 and out on 64% of them. A run-based offense cannot do that against any defense and expect to win.

Again, maybe our D is that good. I hope it is. I REALLY hope it is. But if that's all our O can muster? Gonna be a loooooooooong fall, I am afraid.

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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/11/2016 12:46:14 PM

As I recall, aren't a couple of the offensive lineman who are taking part in the offseason program not even true freshmen but are early enrollees to college who technically would be finishing their Senior year in high school right now? Some of these players are awfully young.

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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/12/2016 9:20:36 AM

If the coaches keep all the starters out of this game, AKA A.J., it diminishes the significance of the game in terms of offense and defense results. This game along with this years entire spring practice seemed to be all about the 2nd and 3rd teamers getting more work. Not a bad strategy.
So I do not take much away from this game good or bad.
LC always articulates this team very well. I will only add that if we can keep the injuries down this year our record will respond accordingly as we do have enough pieces in key positions to improve on 2015.

GO BOBCATS

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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/13/2016 10:17:13 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Optimist--I'm serious here with the 3 above questions. What's your take on each?

L.C.
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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/13/2016 11:11:56 AM

I'm not Optimist, but I'll answer your questions, Monroe.
1. Yes, I've been impressed with the pass rush scheme over the year, with the exception of 2014. 2014 was the year when Ohio had the defensive line focus on sacks instead of contain, and the result was that Ohio was #2 in the MAC in sacks, but gave up a ton of big plays, a poor tradeoff. In most years Ohio has been in the top 4 in the MAC in defense points allowed, but in 2014 they dropped to #6.
2. Yes, of course. That's always the #1 job of a sound defensive line. You can't have a sound defense if the defensive line loses contain very often.
3. It's remarkable to me the number of changes the coaching staff makes. Sometimes I think they make too many. I'm still not sold on the switch to the Cover-4 defense, which resulted in a number of blowout losses the last two years. With the Cover-2 they very, very seldom lost big. Nevertheless, I recognize that it was a change for the long term, and that there would be short term pain, so I am keeping an open mind. A big advantage of the Cover-4 was to attract better recruits, and as the players recruited for that system work into the system, we will learn if it was truly a wise long term choice. A more recent example of a successful change was the change they made in the OL spacing against BG last year, which revitalized the moribund rushing attack, and led to wins down the stretch.

Last Edited: 4/13/2016 11:14:11 AM by L.C.

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RE: Spring Game

Posted: 4/13/2016 10:36:56 PM

L.C. wrote:

The cover four is a disastrous conservative approach that gets us killed in big games. Recruit talent you trust and let them play.

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