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I have stated this before but if Irons was given the same opportunities as the other backs this entire thread would end with a final "I told you so" he is hands down the most dynamic talented RB on the roster and only needs carries to prove it. What does it mean when a coach refers to him as AP? High praise! When the Mac Awards are handed out this year, and if Irons is given a true shot at being a feature back the league will recognize a break out year...And I will simply say I knew it all along. I read articles about how Ohio returns a talented crop of backs and that may be true but when the depth chart is upside down it just doesn't really matter. Is Papi an every down back? Not a chance. Would AJ be better suited as a blocking full back for Irons. Yes yes he would. But for now and until the coaches play talent the debate will continue to rage on. Every excuse, he is raw, he may not be able to pass protect or he may not be engaged. He got the Bobcat award and he is a man-child with the rock. Most of you know that if he got the same opportunities, he would put up better numbers, lets cut the act. Certainly it's true that he has to block. If he can't, the QB is going to be killed on blitzes, and it would be a short, ugly season. It's also true that as he develops, he will get more carries. All the backs are going to get carries this year, so he'll have ample opportunity to continue to improve and earn more time. I fully believe he can earn the starting job by the end of the year, but I also think it's very clear that he hasn't earned it yet. A few nice carries against the other team's third string aren't enough to win a starting job. On the other hand, it's also very clear from how he was used last year that the coaches believe he has the potential to be great. There is no way they would have worked so hard to get him carries in situations where the game was still on the line if they didn't believe in him. Most of all I agree that having to have this debate over and over is silly. Let Irons play this year, and let him show how much he has improved. Let him earn the job, and let's stop having to debate whether the job should just be gifted to him. The fact is that if he wants the starting job, he'll have to earn it, and he has the potential to do it. Adrian Peterson could walk into camp and be third string, you can make 1000 excuses. We saw Daz get more carries than Brown and Irons and we know why. We know why AJ gets the carries. He has earned the title starter for life. All the fans go to the coaches and say how is AJ? I bet he will have a monster season and the coaches oblige. AJ is a great back and would start on many teams, but we have a man-child, lets unleash him. Videotape does not lie. Sprague earn the title starter for life with his victory over NIU. This is how we roll, we need to change it. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/18/2016 2:14:53 AM  Where the idea that Irons can't block came from no one knows. Or believes. Stud potential = stud potential. There's clearly no other running back on the roster with Iron's potential for a huge huge season. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,064 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/18/2016 7:55:49 AM  allen wrote: Adrian Peterson could walk into camp and be third string, you can make 1000 excuses. We saw Daz get more carries than Brown and Irons and we know why. ... Yes, we know why. The reason is that Daz consistently graded out better than Irons or Brown. As you said, videotape does not lie. The best back should get the most carries, and that's the what the coaches do, but they also try to get some carries in for the backs of the future. Yes, if Adrian Petersen walked into camp, he'd have to earn a starting position, but that's exactly as it should be. No one should be gifted a spot without earning it. Could Petersen earn one? Absolutely. Can Irons earn one? I believe he can, but it still remains to be seen. Based on his play so far he has earned more time, but he certainly hasn't earned a starting spot. Monroe Slavin wrote: There's clearly no other running back on the roster with Iron's potential for a huge huge season. Dorian Brown is another outstanding back, don't kid yourself. On the recruiting forum I rated Irons as the best back that Solich has recruited at Ohio, but prior to Irons, that honor belonged to Brown. If the offensive line gels, Ohio's running backs are are going to have a very good season because all of them are good. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Bobcatbob General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Coolville, OH Post Count: 1,341 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/18/2016 9:02:44 AM  LC, I have a picture in my mind of you monitoring this site from a monastery or church rectory somewhere. The term "patience of Job" must apply to someone who will diligently and repeatedly offer logic, facts and persuasive arguments in the face of bluster, disinformation and name calling without ever appearing frustrated or irritated. Bless you, my son. Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/18/2016 9:37:12 AM  Bobcatbob wrote: LC, I have a picture in my mind of you monitoring this site from a monastery or church rectory somewhere. The term "patience of Job" must apply to someone who will diligently and repeatedly offer logic, facts and persuasive arguments in the face of bluster, disinformation and name calling without ever appearing frustrated or irritated. Bless you, my son. +1 Patience is a virtue. L.C. = virtuous beyond measure. As they say, "off the charts." "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/18/2016 10:36:08 AM  L.C. wrote: allen wrote: Adrian Peterson could walk into camp and be third string, you can make 1000 excuses. We saw Daz get more carries than Brown and Irons and we know why. ... Yes, we know why. The reason is that Daz consistently graded out better than Irons or Brown. As you said, videotape does not lie. The best back should get the most carries, and that's the what the coaches do, but they also try to get some carries in for the backs of the future. Yes, if Adrian Petersen walked into camp, he'd have to earn a starting position, but that's exactly as it should be. No one should be gifted a spot without earning it. Could Petersen earn one? Absolutely. Can Irons earn one? I believe he can, but it still remains to be seen. Based on his play so far he has earned more time, but he certainly hasn't earned a starting spot. Monroe Slavin wrote: There's clearly no other running back on the roster with Iron's potential for a huge huge season. Dorian Brown is another outstanding back, don't kid yourself. On the recruiting forum I rated Irons as the best back that Solich has recruited at Ohio, but prior to Irons, that honor belonged to Brown. If the offensive line gels, Ohio's running backs are are going to have a very good season because all of them are good. You have converted me, I am with you. If Adrian Peterson came into camp, this would be my excuse. He is too animated and he does not know the playbook. I would say I got it from an insider. If Barry Sanders were in camp, I would say he needs to mature, I would say I got that from the janitor that works in Peden. Peterson may be ready in a year or two and Sanders is going to take awhile and Peyton Manning needs to practice carrying the clipboard. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/18/2016 10:44:58 AM  It's genius argument to admit that a couple of guys are our best recruits, to see them have success on the field but to bow in reverence to the judgment of a really mediocre coaching staff (no MAcc in 11 years and last 4 years replete with crushing losses). IF YOU START AND END WITH THE CONCLUSIONS THAT THE COACHING AND COACHES' DECISIONS ARE INFALLIBLE, THEN YOU ARE IMMOBILE AND THERE'S NO ROOM FOR DISCUSSION AT ALL. HOWEVER, IF YOU FIRST JUDGE THE COACHING STAFF'S 11 YEARS OF RECORD, THEN YOU MIGHT NOT START AND END WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT THE COACHING AND COACHES' DECISION ARE INFALLIBLE. AND THERE MAY BE ROOM FOR DISCUSSION. AND, YES, I AM YELLING. #theclassicadvicemybrothergavemegrowingup:hey__,don'tbeincredibly__,__ Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,305 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/18/2016 12:17:12 PM  Is it possible for anyone to pretend to know more than you do while still knowing as little as you do? (Hint: no) Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/18/2016 12:57:17 PM  Blocking ability had nothing to do with how much playing time Irons got last season. I initially thought that this might be the case, but a brief discussion last fall with the head man disabused me of that idea. Another strawman will need to be found. Or, one could just accept the sage explanations given by L.C., coupled with some of the reports on here about "deportment issues." The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,064 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/18/2016 1:21:14 PM  allen wrote: You have converted me, I am with you. If Adrian Peterson came into camp, this would be my excuse. He is too animated and he does not know the playbook. I would say I got it from an insider. If Barry Sanders were in camp, I would say he needs to mature, I would say I got that from the janitor that works in Peden. Peterson may be ready in a year or two and Sanders is going to take awhile and Peyton Manning needs to practice carrying the clipboard. I don't have any illusions that I will convert you. My posts are intended for casual readers of the thread. At first glance they might think that the most talented back should play, but if they give it much thought, they will realize that is not true. The person that should be playing is the one that performs the best, and who gives the team the best chance of winning, which might or might not be the most talented player. The player that performs best in 2016 may or may not be the same player that performed the best in 2015. We'll just have to wait and see. I have no doubt that all four of the returning running backs have talent, and that all of them are capable of performing at a high level. For all I know, Hilliard belongs in that group as well. Which one, though, will perform best on the field? Which one will consistently get 3+ yards a carry, against first team defenses? I'll wait until we see them on the field to form an opinion. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,820 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/18/2016 1:37:30 PM  allen wrote: Adrian Peterson could walk into camp and be third string, Actually, he has an agent, so he would not play at all. Back to Top Bobcatzblitz General User Member Since: 7/21/2010 Post Count: 1,726 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/19/2016 3:39:49 PM  Ohio has never had this many really good backs I'm not sure anyone in the MAC has either Back to Top Mike Johnson General User Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: North Canton, OH Post Count: 1,706 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/19/2016 5:27:58 PM  Bobcatzblitz wrote: Ohio has never had this many really good backs I'm not sure anyone in the MAC has either Hmmm...Steve Hookfin, Riz Buckman, Kareem Wilson? http://www.facebook.com/mikejohnson.author Back to Top Bobcatzblitz General User Member Since: 7/21/2010 Post Count: 1,726 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/19/2016 7:01:47 PM  5>3 Back to Top The Situation General User Member Since: 7/12/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 957 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/26/2016 8:39:54 AM  Copied from 1st Spring Scrimmage thread: The Situation wrote: On the topic of limiting playtime of talented freshmen running backs: I'm still waiting for the allens' and Monroes' of the world to explain why the black football coach at Stanford allowed this to happen in 2014: Stanford RBs, 2014: ATTs: rushing attempts YPC: yards per attempt #1 135 ATTs 4.5 YPC (black) #2 66 ATTs 5.0 YPC (black) #3 59 ATTs 5.3 YPC (black) #4 42 ATTs 7.1 YPC (white freshman running back, 2015 heisman trophy finalist as a sophomore) Again, in their infinite wisdom, none of the allens' or Monroes' of the world have addressed this stated phenomenon. I would like their feedback. I'm not by any means suggesting Stanford's head coach is racist. I do however expect the allens' and Monroes' opinions on coaching Ohio football are mostly transferable to coaching Stanford football through a parallel situation (that literally happened). NOTE: Maleek Irons is not currently a heisman finalist Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/26/2016 1:45:28 PM  In 2014, Ohio's record was 6-6 with no games against ranked teams and five losses by 17 or more points. In 2014, Stanford was 8-5 with a 45-21 bowl win and six games against ranked teams. They were 1-5 vs. those ranked teams, losing by a combined total of 54 points and winning by 21 points. BOOM. I totally destroy any traces of comparability. THUD. You follow the theory that Solich and staff are infallible and therefore about always come to the conclusion what they do is correct, leaving no room for discussion. Thank you for your closed mind. You agree with you; you are a frighteningly bright person and I am a ddork. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top The Situation General User Member Since: 7/12/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 957 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/26/2016 3:24:03 PM  Monroe Slavin wrote: In 2014, Ohio's record was 6-6 with no games against ranked teams and five losses by 17 or more points. In 2014, Stanford was 8-5 with a 45-21 bowl win and six games against ranked teams. They were 1-5 vs. those ranked teams, losing by a combined total of 54 points and winning by 21 points. BOOM. I totally destroy any traces of comparability. THUD. You follow the theory that Solich and staff are infallible and therefore about always come to the conclusion what they do is correct, leaving no room for discussion. Thank you for your closed mind. You agree with you; you are a frighteningly bright person and I am a ddork. I was asking you to speak specifically to limiting a heisman trophy finalist runningback to 42 carries the previous season. Why do you think Christian McCaffery was limited to 42 carries in 2014? Can you answer that question? Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/27/2016 12:40:28 AM  The Situation wrote: Copied from 1st Spring Scrimmage thread: The Situation wrote: On the topic of limiting playtime of talented freshmen running backs: I'm still waiting for the allens' and Monroes' of the world to explain why the black football coach at Stanford allowed this to happen in 2014: Stanford RBs, 2014: ATTs: rushing attempts YPC: yards per attempt #1 135 ATTs 4.5 YPC (black) #2 66 ATTs 5.0 YPC (black) #3 59 ATTs 5.3 YPC (black) #4 42 ATTs 7.1 YPC (white freshman running back, 2015 heisman trophy finalist as a sophomore) Again, in their infinite wisdom, none of the allens' or Monroes' of the world have addressed this stated phenomenon. I would like their feedback. I'm not by any means suggesting Stanford's head coach is racist. I do however expect the allens' and Monroes' opinions on coaching Ohio football are mostly transferable to coaching Stanford football through a parallel situation (that literally happened). NOTE: Maleek Irons is not currently a heisman finalist Let's get one thing straight, nobody is calling Frank racist and nobody cares about Stanford. We have continually stated that Daz Got carries over two better backs. I believe Daz is black. I have also said on numerous occasions that AJ is a great back and can compete with Irons. It is your own racism that sees something that has nothing to do with race as race related. Try to deal with your racism internally and not to spread it. I have continually said Poling is a man-child and that Tom Carder was my favorite linebacker. Now some fans saw Sprague have two decent games and thought that Vick was the worst thing that happened to Ohio, so you have sympathizers, but I am a Bobcat. If we do the position for life and AJ starts, I will still be a fan. My argument is this, if 100 well respected coached had an open competition with our back, Irons would win in a landslide. God bless and Happy Resurrection Day. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top The Situation General User Member Since: 7/12/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 957 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/27/2016 12:42:52 AM  The Situation wrote: Monroe Slavin wrote: In 2014, Ohio's record was 6-6 with no games against ranked teams and five losses by 17 or more points. In 2014, Stanford was 8-5 with a 45-21 bowl win and six games against ranked teams. They were 1-5 vs. those ranked teams, losing by a combined total of 54 points and winning by 21 points. BOOM. I totally destroy any traces of comparability. THUD. You follow the theory that Solich and staff are infallible and therefore about always come to the conclusion what they do is correct, leaving no room for discussion. Thank you for your closed mind. You agree with you; you are a frighteningly bright person and I am a ddork. I was asking you to speak specifically to limiting a heisman trophy finalist runningback to 42 carries the previous season. Why do you think Christian McCaffery was limited to 42 carries in 2014? Can you answer that question? Monroe you spent all this time to write something about nothing I was talking about. You can't spare a few lines to answer a clearly defined question? Back to Top The Situation General User Member Since: 7/12/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 957 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/27/2016 12:43:47 AM  allen wrote: Let's get one thing straight, nobody is calling Frank racist Write that in stone. P.S. Sign your legal name Last Edited: 3/27/2016 1:35:05 AM by The Situation Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,064 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/27/2016 12:45:41 PM  allen wrote: ... My argument is this, if 100 well respected coached had an open competition with our back, Irons would win in a landslide. God bless and Happy Resurrection Day. You can repeat this as often as you like, but that won't make it true. I believe that if you had 100 well respected coaches evaluate the backs last year, not even one would have started Irons ahead of Daz and AJ. Daz and AJ were both skilled, complete running backs. Irons had a lot of potential. His particular strengths are field vision, balance, and his ability to keep moving, all of which benefit him in the open field, but he also has things he needed to work on in order to complete the jump from High School to FBS. For example, he was very ineffective last year running inside, as his height worked against him, and he was often stood up and knocked over easily for little or no gain. The "well respected coaches" would have seen the weaknesses as well as the strengths. Most would have used him like Ohio did - working him into the rotation when they could so that he could get enough work to have some film to study, so that he could continue to improve, and trying to get him focused on becoming the best back he can be. One thing that I'm looking forward to this fall is seeing an end to this pointless debate. Irons and Brown will both get considerable snaps, and snaps with the first team. Both of them them have the potential to be very, very good backs, and AJ is already a very, very good back. Any of the three of them could end up playing at the next level. Ohio is loaded at running back, and if there is any blocking at all this year, the running game this fall will be fun to watch regardless of which of the three is in. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/27/2016 12:52:22 PM  L.C. wrote: allen wrote: ... My argument is this, if 100 well respected coached had an open competition with our back, Irons would win in a landslide. God bless and Happy Resurrection Day. You can repeat this as often as you like, but that won't make it true. I believe that if you had 100 well respected coaches evaluate the backs last year, not even one would have started Irons ahead of Daz and AJ. Daz and AJ were both skilled, complete running backs. Irons had a lot of potential. His particular strengths are field vision, balance, and his ability to keep moving, all of which benefit him in the open field, but he also has things he needed to work on in order to complete the jump from High School to FBS. For example, he was very ineffective last year running inside, as his height worked against him, and he was often stood up and knocked over easily for little or no gain. The "well respected coaches" would have seen the weaknesses as well as the strengths. Most would have used him like Ohio did - working him into the rotation when they could so that he could get enough work to have some film to study, so that he could continue to improve, and trying to get him focused on becoming the best back he can be. One thing that I'm looking forward to this fall is seeing an end to this pointless debate. Irons and Brown will both get considerable snaps, and snaps with the first team. Both of them them have the potential to be very, very good backs, and AJ is already a very, very good back. Any of the three of them could end up playing at the next level. Ohio is loaded at running back, and if there is any blocking at all this year, the running game this fall will be fun to watch regardless of which of the three is in. Not to mention White and Hilliard. "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/27/2016 12:55:13 PM  L.C. wrote: allen wrote: ... My argument is this, if 100 well respected coached had an open competition with our back, Irons would win in a landslide. God bless and Happy Resurrection Day. You can repeat this as often as you like, but that won't make it true. I believe that if you had 100 well respected coaches evaluate the backs last year, not even one would have started Irons ahead of Daz and AJ. Daz and AJ were both skilled, complete running backs. Irons had a lot of potential. His particular strengths are field vision, balance, and his ability to keep moving, all of which benefit him in the open field, but he also has things he needed to work on in order to complete the jump from High School to FBS. For example, he was very ineffective last year running inside, as his height worked against him, and he was often stood up and knocked over easily for little or no gain. The "well respected coaches" would have seen the weaknesses as well as the strengths. Most would have used him like Ohio did - working him into the rotation when they could so that he could get enough work to have some film to study, so that he could continue to improve, and trying to get him focused on becoming the best back he can be. One thing that I'm looking forward to this fall is seeing an end to this pointless debate. Irons and Brown will both get considerable snaps, and snaps with the first team. Both of them them have the potential to be very, very good backs, and AJ is already a very, very good back. Any of the three of them could end up playing at the next level. Ohio is loaded at running back, and if there is any blocking at all this year, the running game this fall will be fun to watch regardless of which of the three is in. your friends on this site don't believe that. Frank Solich does not believe that. Heck , you don't believe that. This is pride at this point. You have assistants saying he is AP and Derrick Henry. Let's have some integrity. He is big, fast and hard to bring down. He can catch. AJ is a great back, Daz is a great person but he was the fourth best back on the team. Stats and videotape don't lie. This was not even a respectable response. Daz will tell you. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,156 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/27/2016 1:43:40 PM  allen wrote: L.C. wrote: allen wrote: ... My argument is this, if 100 well respected coached had an open competition with our back, Irons would win in a landslide. God bless and Happy Resurrection Day. You can repeat this as often as you like, but that won't make it true. I believe that if you had 100 well respected coaches evaluate the backs last year, not even one would have started Irons ahead of Daz and AJ. Daz and AJ were both skilled, complete running backs. Irons had a lot of potential. His particular strengths are field vision, balance, and his ability to keep moving, all of which benefit him in the open field, but he also has things he needed to work on in order to complete the jump from High School to FBS. For example, he was very ineffective last year running inside, as his height worked against him, and he was often stood up and knocked over easily for little or no gain. The "well respected coaches" would have seen the weaknesses as well as the strengths. Most would have used him like Ohio did - working him into the rotation when they could so that he could get enough work to have some film to study, so that he could continue to improve, and trying to get him focused on becoming the best back he can be. One thing that I'm looking forward to this fall is seeing an end to this pointless debate. Irons and Brown will both get considerable snaps, and snaps with the first team. Both of them them have the potential to be very, very good backs, and AJ is already a very, very good back. Any of the three of them could end up playing at the next level. Ohio is loaded at running back, and if there is any blocking at all this year, the running game this fall will be fun to watch regardless of which of the three is in. your friends on this site don't believe that. Frank Solich does not believe that. Heck , you don't believe that. This is pride at this point. You have assistants saying he is AP and Derrick Henry. Let's have some integrity. He is big, fast and hard to bring down. He can catch. AJ is a great back, Daz is a great person but he was the fourth best back on the team. Stats and videotape don't lie. This was not even a respectable response. Daz will tell you. It's amazing that 128 D-1 football coaches missed this guys' pro potential out of high school. It's a fact that they didn't offer him a scholarship. The guy has great potential, he's not Derrick Henry. Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: Maleek Irons Transfer Watch    Posted: 3/27/2016 1:49:37 PM  allen wrote: L.C. wrote: allen wrote: ... My argument is this, if 100 well respected coached had an open competition with our back, Irons would win in a landslide. God bless and Happy Resurrection Day. You can repeat this as often as you like, but that won't make it true. I believe that if you had 100 well respected coaches evaluate the backs last year, not even one would have started Irons ahead of Daz and AJ. Daz and AJ were both skilled, complete running backs. Irons had a lot of potential. His particular strengths are field vision, balance, and his ability to keep moving, all of which benefit him in the open field, but he also has things he needed to work on in order to complete the jump from High School to FBS. For example, he was very ineffective last year running inside, as his height worked against him, and he was often stood up and knocked over easily for little or no gain. The "well respected coaches" would have seen the weaknesses as well as the strengths. Most would have used him like Ohio did - working him into the rotation when they could so that he could get enough work to have some film to study, so that he could continue to improve, and trying to get him focused on becoming the best back he can be. One thing that I'm looking forward to this fall is seeing an end to this pointless debate. Irons and Brown will both get considerable snaps, and snaps with the first team. Both of them them have the potential to be very, very good backs, and AJ is already a very, very good back. Any of the three of them could end up playing at the next level. Ohio is loaded at running back, and if there is any blocking at all this year, the running game this fall will be fun to watch regardless of which of the three is in. your friends on this site don't believe that. Frank Solich does not believe that. Heck , you don't believe that. This is pride at this point. You have assistants saying he is AP and Derrick Henry. Let's have some integrity. He is big, fast and hard to bring down. He can catch. AJ is a great back, Daz is a great person but he was the fourth best back on the team. Stats and videotape don't lie. This was not even a respectable response. Daz will tell you. An unnamed assistant has now become plural. Why does this assistant remain unnamed? Your argument would have so much more credibility if we knew the source. Please, yes, let us have some integrity. Coach Solich has coached Ahman Green, Tom Rathman, Kalvin McRae etc., etc.. All your continued Yip, Yap, Yip without any consideration of repeated rebuttals just gets older and older. "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top Showing Replies:   151 - 175  of 258 Posts Jump to Page:   < Previous    1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11    Next > View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 125 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 125 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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