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Topic:  RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas

Topic:  RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas
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WoodyHaha
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  Message Not Read  RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas
   Posted: 4/14/2016 8:06:09 PM 
What's the matter Allen? You feeling the Bern?

Your frothing at the mouth is the best!
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  Message Not Read  RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas
   Posted: 4/14/2016 9:28:01 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
.... Two back sets are easier to defend than Ohio's regular package now in use....

As I have pointed out in the past, Ohio averages more yards per carry today than they did with a two back set, plus many more yards of offense and many more points per game. They isn't to say that I wouldn't like to see them steal a few ideas from App St, which ran a very interesting and well conceived rushing attack from formations similar to Ohio's formations. The staff is always making changes, and I suspect that we very well may see some of this.


Straight from the Cleveland Caravan. A Coach Solich paraphrase by me: a wealth of talent at running back and they are going to try to get the more talented players, ie running backs on the field together.

No mention of two back set but since White is the most likely threat to be split, than where would the other two go? Or would getting the talent on the field together simply mean White and ONE of the others?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas
   Posted: 4/14/2016 10:07:19 PM 
MonroeClassmate wrote:
L.C. wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
.... Two back sets are easier to defend than Ohio's regular package now in use....

As I have pointed out in the past, Ohio averages more yards per carry today than they did with a two back set, plus many more yards of offense and many more points per game. They isn't to say that I wouldn't like to see them steal a few ideas from App St, which ran a very interesting and well conceived rushing attack from formations similar to Ohio's formations. The staff is always making changes, and I suspect that we very well may see some of this.


Straight from the Cleveland Caravan. A Coach Solich paraphrase by me: a wealth of talent at running back and they are going to try to get the more talented players, ie running backs on the field together.

No mention of two back set but since White is the most likely threat to be split, than where would the other two go? Or would getting the talent on the field together simply mean White and ONE of the others?




+1

Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes
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  Message Not Read  RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas
   Posted: 4/14/2016 10:08:28 PM 
WoodyHaha wrote:
What's the matter Allen? You feeling the Bern?

Your frothing at the mouth is the best!

I am feeling the truck driver. I watch Faux News every day.

Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes
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  Message Not Read  RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas
   Posted: 4/15/2016 8:43:35 AM 
MonroeClassmate wrote:
L.C. wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
.... Two back sets are easier to defend than Ohio's regular package now in use....

As I have pointed out in the past, Ohio averages more yards per carry today than they did with a two back set, plus many more yards of offense and many more points per game. They isn't to say that I wouldn't like to see them steal a few ideas from App St, which ran a very interesting and well conceived rushing attack from formations similar to Ohio's formations. The staff is always making changes, and I suspect that we very well may see some of this.


Straight from the Cleveland Caravan. A Coach Solich paraphrase by me: a wealth of talent at running back and they are going to try to get the more talented players, ie running backs on the field together.

No mention of two back set but since White is the most likely threat to be split, than where would the other two go? Or would getting the talent on the field together simply mean White and ONE of the others?





"White and ONE of the others?" Yes, and the other would need the complete RB skill set, especially blocking.




"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK

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  Message Not Read  RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas
   Posted: 4/23/2016 6:22:37 PM 
i'm a hometown (vancouver, BC, canada) fan of maleek's... i don't know him but i have seen him play.

i may have been the 1st person to hint of this.......... just seems natural when you don't get much scholarship interest because of a structural factor (playing in canada). maybe a pac-12 team sees highlights of that one beast run last year. surely the kid could help oregon state. i know there was some interest from wsu but that's a passing offense... also wonder if maleek had grade issues.

a precedent to this is jonathan kabongo (same general league as maleek... not sure that's his exact name)... not much interest out of high school. went to wyoming and i think red-shirted. transferred after 1 year to arizona western JC. was a beast for 1 year. then #1 JC recruit in country with i think offers from alabama and USC. chose tennessee.

so there really is an admin gap when someone can only get wyoming offer, redshirts a year there then does a year at JC and has alabama/USC offers (if not offers, they were actively recruiting him).

i agree that malik should keep quiet or perhaps do something like transfer (with proper advice)... but complaining and doing nothing (which i inferred that he did) is not good

edit: i should add that these kids who fall through an admin recruiting hole often won't have any geographic affinity for school they go to...... i remember a top canadian recruit who did have offers narrowed it down to 5 top 25 type schools from 5 different states and 5 different conferences. not sure i'd actually seen that before... and not sure why that canadian kid and others had awesome offers but kabongo/irons did not. might be position and/or amount of football played. i know kabongo was pretty raw.

Last Edited: 4/23/2016 6:25:09 PM by smc22
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  Message Not Read  RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas
   Posted: 4/23/2016 8:38:47 PM 
The thinking here seems to be that Maleek mostly just needed to get used to his new surroundings, and the new level of competition, and he has done so. We're expecting a breakout year from him this year.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

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  Message Not Read  RE: Maleek Irons Isn't Going To Transfer. It is just a bunch of old guys on this site passing time....and gas
   Posted: 4/24/2016 8:57:06 AM 
There is no doubt where the strength of this offense is for the next few years. Frank loves a strong running game, thus is implementation of the 2 back sets for next year.
Now if the passing game can improve slightly and the injuries be held to a minimum we should have a great year.
The defense is already very good so I am looking forward to a better year than last.
Prediction calls for a 10 win season, trip to the MACC, and a trip to a better bowl game.




GO BOBCATS
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