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General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Georgetown, ME Post Count: 1,174 Status: Offline     Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 10:36:48 AM  So I guess the general populace is not so concerned about concussions/pay for play/etc that they have chosen to tune out: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/college-f... And in general, the MAC bowls were well represented on the airwaves, despite a drop in butts in seats: http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/ Clearly interest in football is waning in American's collective conscience. (sarcastameter pegged at 11) Means very good things for anorris' employer for the long term, and over time should continue to deliver increasing revenues to Intercollegiate Athletics at OHIO, especially when the playoff is expanded to eight teams. The Few, The Proud, The Bobcats! And for the record, I hate tOSU, and Ricordati and Torgerson are DB's. "This isn't just another walkover from the MAC." Kirk Herbstreit, another DB, on College Football Gameday Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,156 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 10:45:25 AM  The MAC had 3 of the bottom 4 rated bowls, that's not good. Of course, timing, etc may be responsible for the low ratings, but not many people go out of their way to watch the MAC, it appears. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,552 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 11:07:52 AM  For all the dooming talk of the coming "great divide" there sure seems to be a lot of money to be made in obscure bowl games in addition to the playoff. The larger D-1 is, the easier it is to keep bowl games flowing on ESPN over the holidays. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,152 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 11:36:24 AM  The pre-Christmas bowls fared much worse than the post-Christmas bowls. I see two main reasons: fewer "P"5 teams play pre-Christmas (only the Vegas Bowl had a "P"5 team); and people have a lot of other things to do pre-Christmas (I know I was out shopping, etc. on 12/20 and didn't know the Spud Bowl was on until it was over). We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,065 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 11:36:46 AM  I note that only 5 bowl games were under 1.9m viewers, and four of those were the four MAC games, and they are all more than 20% below that 1.9m mark: 1.50m CMU/W. Ky 1.45m WMU/Air Force 1.37m Toledo/Arkansas State 1.32m BYU/Memphis 1.11m S. Alabama/BG You can't blame it all on the time slots. Looking at the regular season: Ohio/Miami game - was watched by 564k, which beat 14 other games that week, and it was 3rd among 6 ESPN2 games, not too bad. NIU/Ohio - watched by 278k, that was nearly a tie for 2d out of six games that week on ESPNU, again, not bad. Buffalo/Ohio - watched by 81k, pathetic Ohio/Kentucky - watched by 537k, 3rd of four games on ESPNU that week “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 12:21:09 PM  So more people watching OHIO-Miami than OHIO-Kentucky? That's surprising. Two explanations: 1. lots and lots of OHIO alumni tuned in. 2. Most UK fans were watching their DVD's of the last three UK national basketball championship games. Kentucky is a basketball school, after all! ;-) The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Casper71 General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Post Count: 2,895 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 1:09:41 PM  Yikes, looking at those numbers for the NIU and Buff games...I just gotta say this: is it really of value to play for 81k or 250+k households on a weekday night in November? I know all the pluses and minuses have been discussed but I am not sure anyone ever took the number of watchers into account. It was always look at all the free TV/publicity we get and all the recruits that watch. Well, if basically nobody is really watching then depressing seems to be the best word to describe my feelings. I still say I'd rather we played 'em on SATURDAYS (even though I attend at least one of the weeknight games while traveling from cincy). Back to Top JSF General User Member Since: 1/29/2005 Location: Houston, TX Post Count: 6,341 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 1:15:43 PM  D.A. wrote: Clearly interest in football is waning in American's collective conscience. (sarcastameter pegged at 11) Has there ever been anything suggesting otherwise? "Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season. My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8 Back to Top OhioStunter General User Member Since: 2/18/2005 Location: Chicago Post Count: 2,516 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 2:42:40 PM  Casper71 wrote: Yikes, looking at those numbers for the NIU and Buff games...I just gotta say this: is it really of value to play for 81k or 250+k households on a weekday night in November? I know all the pluses and minuses have been discussed but I am not sure anyone ever took the number of watchers into account. It was always look at all the free TV/publicity we get and all the recruits that watch. Well, if basically nobody is really watching then depressing seems to be the best word to describe my feelings. I still say I'd rather we played 'em on SATURDAYS (even though I attend at least one of the weeknight games while traveling from cincy). So instead of playing in front of 100K-500K with cable TV revenue, you'd rather have them play in front of 20K with no cable TV revenue? Back to Top D.A. General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Georgetown, ME Post Count: 1,174 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 2:56:11 PM  JSF wrote: D.A. wrote: Clearly interest in football is waning in American's collective conscience. (sarcastameter pegged at 11) Has there ever been anything suggesting otherwise? Yes, there have been numerous predictions in the media the last couple of years regarding concerns over PCS and decline in participation/interest in the sport. The Few, The Proud, The Bobcats! And for the record, I hate tOSU, and Ricordati and Torgerson are DB's. "This isn't just another walkover from the MAC." Kirk Herbstreit, another DB, on College Football Gameday Back to Top Casper71 General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Post Count: 2,895 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 2:57:55 PM  Stunter, please note I was specifically talking about the Buff and NIU games where 80-200k households watched. UK was earlier in the year and maybe a SAT with an SEC opponent so that obviously is not the same kind of game I am talking about. Miami was a Friday after T-giving, I think and i suppose that number was impressive. Again, to clarify, I was talking about those tue/th midweek games. And, who cares if some football junkies watched the games. I am just starting to question the value of these games from an athletic, student, future student, financial and alumni perspective. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,552 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 3:17:39 PM  Casper, I know you're interested in seeing our recruiting improve. Have you noticed our recruits discussing midweek games on social media? It is very obvious they are tuning in for these games based on their social media profiles. With what I consider our strongest recruiting class (on paper) under Frank coming in this year, I personally believe two large factors were television visibility the last 4 years in addition to the new IPF. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 4:01:26 PM  Pataskala wrote: The pre-Christmas bowls fared much worse than the post-Christmas bowls. I see two main reasons: fewer "P"5 teams play pre-Christmas (only the Vegas Bowl had a "P"5 team); and people have a lot of other things to do pre-Christmas (I know I was out shopping, etc. on 12/20 and didn't know the Spud Bowl was on until it was over). Many people, myself included prefer to watch holiday hoops instead of bowl games with 6-6 or 7-5 teams in them regardless of conference affiliation. Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 2,992 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 4:11:27 PM  Off topic a bit, but I can't believe Nielson still exists. I'm surprised the cable and dish companies haven't installed their own tracking systems in their "boxes". Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top Bobcatbob General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Coolville, OH Post Count: 1,341 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 4:30:10 PM  Casper71 wrote: Stunter, please note I was specifically talking about the Buff and NIU games where 80-200k households watched. UK was earlier in the year and maybe a SAT with an SEC opponent so that obviously is not the same kind of game I am talking about. Miami was a Friday after T-giving, I think and i suppose that number was impressive. Again, to clarify, I was talking about those tue/th midweek games. And, who cares if some football junkies watched the games. I am just starting to question the value of these games from an athletic, student, future student, financial and alumni perspective. Here's an exercise in futility for you. Using the UB/Ohio numbers, admittedly skewed, does either University benefit by trading a Saturday Athens home crowd of 17 - 20K live souls who buy popcorn, stay in motels, eat and drink uptown and generally provide support to OU and Athens, for 81K nameless souls who sit in their family rooms and watch everything that EPSN2 spits out? And are you going to try to convince me that among those 81K households there are some uncommitted high school recruits who will then decide to go to a MAC school so they can play on TV on a cold Tuesday night? I'm very skeptical of answering yes to either question but I defer to Mr. Schauss and the MAC Commish who must know better. Back to Top OhioStunter General User Member Since: 2/18/2005 Location: Chicago Post Count: 2,516 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 5:15:37 PM  Bobcatbob wrote: Casper71 wrote: Stunter, please note I was specifically talking about the Buff and NIU games where 80-200k households watched. UK was earlier in the year and maybe a SAT with an SEC opponent so that obviously is not the same kind of game I am talking about. Miami was a Friday after T-giving, I think and i suppose that number was impressive. Again, to clarify, I was talking about those tue/th midweek games. And, who cares if some football junkies watched the games. I am just starting to question the value of these games from an athletic, student, future student, financial and alumni perspective. Here's an exercise in futility for you. Using the UB/Ohio numbers, admittedly skewed, does either University benefit by trading a Saturday Athens home crowd of 17 - 20K live souls who buy popcorn, stay in motels, eat and drink uptown and generally provide support to OU and Athens, for 81K nameless souls who sit in their family rooms and watch everything that EPSN2 spits out? And are you going to try to convince me that among those 81K households there are some uncommitted high school recruits who will then decide to go to a MAC school so they can play on TV on a cold Tuesday night? I'm very skeptical of answering yes to either question but I defer to Mr. Schauss and the MAC Commish who must know better. I definitely think the community economy loses out on a weekday game vs. a Saturday game. I also think Mr. Schaus appreciates the ESPN money more than the hot pretzel money. When it comes to recruits, I think that it is not so much about the "real-time" viewing of MAC teams on the weeknight driving recruits' decisions, but how those teams "package" videos to recruits ("see, we are on ESPN!") Back to Top JSF General User Member Since: 1/29/2005 Location: Houston, TX Post Count: 6,341 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 5:35:55 PM  D.A. wrote: JSF wrote: D.A. wrote: Clearly interest in football is waning in American's collective conscience. (sarcastameter pegged at 11) Has there ever been anything suggesting otherwise? Yes, there have been numerous predictions in the media the last couple of years regarding concerns over PCS and decline in participation/interest in the sport. I meant anything substantive. There's nothing to suggest *interest* is going down, though participation may well see a hit in the future. "Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season. My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8 Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,065 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/14/2015 6:15:38 PM  Casper71 wrote: ... Miami was a Friday after T-giving, I think and i suppose that number was impressive. Again, to clarify, I was talking about those tue/th midweek games.... Actually, Miami was a Tuesday night before Thanksgiving. Let's look at the numbers from all the mid-week games on ESPN/ESPNU/ESPN2: Tuesday ESPN2 - UL-Lafayette/Texas St 436k ESPN2 - Ark St/UL-Lafayette 374k ESPN2 - BG/Akron 384k ESPN2 - Toledo/NIU 600k ESPN2 - Ohio/Miami 564k ESPNU - Toledo/Kent 113k ESPNU - Akron/Buffalo 145k ESPNU - NIU/Ohio 278k Wednesday ESPN2 - NIU/Ball St 533k ESPN2 - Kent St/BG 440k ESPN2 - BG/Toledo 556k ESPNU - Abilene Christian/Georgia Sate 287k ESPNU - Buffalo/Ohio 81k ESPNU - Ball St/UMass 243k Thursday ESPN - Boise St/Miss 2.42m ESPN - Houston/BYU 1.05m ESPN - Auburn/Kansas St 3.85m ESPN - Texas Tech/Oklahoma St 1.84m ESPN - Arizona/Oregon 2.38m ESPN - UCF/Houston 744k ESPN - BYU/UCF 1.34m ESPN - Virginia Tech/Pitt 1.36m ESPN - Miami/Virginia Tech 1.22m ESPN - FSU/Louisville 4.97m ESPN - Clemson/Wk Forest 1.9m ESPN - Cal/USC 1.27m ESPN - NC/Duke 1.44m ESPN - LSU/Texas A&M 2.91m ESPN - UCF/ECU 1.04m ESPN2 - ECU/Cincinnati 821k ESPNU - Wake Forest/UL Monroe 168k ESPNU - Ark Pine Bluff/Alabama St 43k ESPNU - App St/Georgia Southern 156k ESPNU - UConn/ECU 395k ESPNU - Troy/Ga. Southern 85k ESPNU - Ark St/Tex St 187k Clearly the key is the network. Here are the averages for mid-week games: ESPN - 1.98m viewers ESPN2 - 523k ESPNU -190k Next most important appears to be how good a game it is. Miami/Ohio featured a great comeback win by the good guys, so it was heavily watched, and had the 3rd highest rating of any game on ESPN2. Ohio/NIU featured a very competitive game to the end, and had the third highest rating of any game on ESPNU. Meanwhile, in the Buffalo/Ohio game, Buffalo clearly sucked, and the game was not competitive, so it had the 2d lowest viewership of any game on ESPNU. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,305 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/15/2015 9:33:57 AM  Ohio69 wrote: Off topic a bit, but I can't believe Nielson still exists. I'm surprised the cable and dish companies haven't installed their own tracking systems in their "boxes". They have. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,552 Status: Offline     RE: Ratings    Posted: 1/15/2015 10:55:51 AM  Nielson's twitter ratings are often interesting to look at. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 20  of 20 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 257 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 257 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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