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Topic: RE: Announced Attendance?

Topic: RE: Announced Attendance?

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BillyTheCat
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RE: Announced Attendance?

Posted: 11/19/2014 3:53:32 PM

Alan Swank wrote:

jpmo wrote:

Recovering Journalist wrote:

Alan Swank wrote:

If you price your product low enough, it's an easy sale. Thank goodness we have a student body willing to subsidize our ticket prices not only for athletics for all university related entertainment. I saw "Anything Goes" at Mem Aud last week and the ticket was less than $30. That same ticket the next night in Bowling Green, KY, was $60.

I know the student fee is one of your favorite axes to grind, Alan, but I see the fee as a good thing. It's part of the cost of a rich and fulfilling campus life. One can debate its size and how it's allocated, but without the fee, there would be no shows at Mem Aud at any price. There'd be no student-run media (Post, radio stations, TV, etc.). Many clubs would be gone. And to the delight of Dr. Vedder there'd be no athletics either.

The problem with looking at the fee like an economist is that a university is not a corporation. It's OK to have some expenses that don't turn a profit or benefit every single student.

If you started ruthlessly looking at every expense (which is happening at many schools) you'd soon be left with a campus devoid of a lot of the educational opportunities, vibrancy, diversity, and culture.

I'm fairly certain that Dr. Vedder would be perfectly happy with this student fee (and athletics left as is) as long as the professor/administrator ratio returned to pre 1990 levels (with the elimination of layers of administration) and administrator pay returning to pre 1990 levels normalized for inflation. The savings in tuition would more than make up for the fee and students would be immensely helped by walking away with less debt.

Bingo and I would second that.

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RE: Announced Attendance?

Posted: 11/19/2014 4:15:02 PM

jpmo wrote:

That's simply not true. He persistently cites the student fee as too large with too large of a percentage going to athletics. To wit:

http://www.thepostathens.com/news/article_b03011d0-68d5-5...

This fee indeed supports some non-faculty administrators (most notably athletics coaches), but most of the administrative bloat that also Vedder decries is a separate issue and one that's more closely related to tuition increases and decreases in the proportion of full-time tenure track faculty on campuses. For what it's worth, I think he's right to make that complaint, but it's a totally separate issue from the student fee.

mf279801
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RE: Announced Attendance?

Posted: 11/19/2014 9:06:17 PM

Mark Lembright '85 wrote:

Edit: Now the MAC has postponed the game. Kent State should be pissed since the MAC called the game AFTER they drove 11 hours in hazardous weather to get to Buffalo in the first place. Game should have been called yesterday as it was well known Buffalo was going to get hammered with snow. Now Kent has to drive back in bad roads AGAIN for nothing! Bad move by the MAC to wait so long!

From what I've seen (including from a friend of mine who is a member of the Buffalo team medical staff) they had to postpone the game because the Kent State equpiment truck got stuck.

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