Welcome Guest!
Create an Account
login email:
password:
site searchwhere to watchcontact usabout usadvertise with ushelp
Message Board
BobcatAttack.com Message Board
Ohio Football
Topic:  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching

Topic:  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
Author
Message
UpSan Bobcat
General User



Member Since: 8/30/2005
Location: Upper Sandusky, OH
Post Count: 3,789

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 10:19:29 AM 
Ohio outplayed a superior Northern Illinois and would have won if not for having more turnovers and two missed field goals (not a fault of coaching). While I'm sure you can pick apart the coaching and find errors, clearly something about the coaching was good for that to have happened.
Back to Top
  
bobcat695
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Parkersburg, WV
Post Count: 1,345

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 10:37:45 AM 
The two missed FGs were both from 46 yds in 20 degree temps with snow and wind. Few kickers in NCAA will make those kicks. The problem is that the offense did what it has done all season. They made it to the 30 and the drive abruptly ended. Good teams finish off their drives. Ohio gets across midfield and sputters like a car with a bad fuel pump. They had two cracks at getting a 1st down from 6" in the 4th quarter and couldn't get it done. It took a trick play on 4th down later in the game to get 2 yards. Some of it is scheme, some is personnel. Both things fall on the coaching staff.

The stats don't lie. Ohio is 113/125 in scoring offense and 54/125 in scoring defense. The defense is getting it done. The offense is not.

"You can't un-fist a fist pump." - Saul Phillips 1/24/15

Back to Top
  
GoCats105
General User

Member Since: 1/31/2006
Location: Seattle, WA
Post Count: 6,912

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 10:43:12 AM 
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
Ohio outplayed a superior Northern Illinois and would have won if not for having more turnovers and two missed field goals (not a fault of coaching). While I'm sure you can pick apart the coaching and find errors, clearly something about the coaching was good for that to have happened.


Normally I would agree with you about the kicking game, but last night's conditions were not very kicker friendly. And Yaz hasn't been same kicker he was in 2013 all year. If Ohio is that far into opponent territory, they need to be going for it. Play to win.
Back to Top
  
UpSan Bobcat
General User



Member Since: 8/30/2005
Location: Upper Sandusky, OH
Post Count: 3,789

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 10:46:46 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
Ohio outplayed a superior Northern Illinois and would have won if not for having more turnovers and two missed field goals (not a fault of coaching). While I'm sure you can pick apart the coaching and find errors, clearly something about the coaching was good for that to have happened.


Normally I would agree with you about the kicking game, but last night's conditions were not very kicker friendly. And Yaz hasn't been same kicker he was in 2013 all year. If Ohio is that far into opponent territory, they need to be going for it. Play to win.


I'm not saying they weren't tough field goals, but I thought he would have hit at least one of them even in the conditions. He's shown himself to be that good. One way or another, it was points that could have been had. And either way, the coaching staff's game plan had Ohio in position to win a game against a superior opponent, so something was good about it. I just find it amazing that people can be so upset about coaching in this instance when the reality is that Ohio played an extremely good game.

Last Edited: 11/19/2014 10:48:18 AM by UpSan Bobcat
Back to Top
  
perimeterpost
General User



Member Since: 7/6/2010
Post Count: 3,165

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 10:47:26 AM 
I'm trying to figure out how getting 6pts from two FGs would have given us a win in a game we lost by 7pts.

MY STATE. MY TEAM.
Back to Top
  
UpSan Bobcat
General User



Member Since: 8/30/2005
Location: Upper Sandusky, OH
Post Count: 3,789

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 10:49:19 AM 
perimeterpost wrote:
I'm trying to figure out how getting 6pts from two FGs would have given us a win in a game we lost by 7pts.


Two field goals and a negative turnover ratio is what I said, with the turnovers far more costly than the missed field goals.
Back to Top
  
GoCats105
General User

Member Since: 1/31/2006
Location: Seattle, WA
Post Count: 6,912

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 10:50:20 AM 
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
Ohio outplayed a superior Northern Illinois and would have won if not for having more turnovers and two missed field goals (not a fault of coaching). While I'm sure you can pick apart the coaching and find errors, clearly something about the coaching was good for that to have happened.


Normally I would agree with you about the kicking game, but last night's conditions were not very kicker friendly. And Yaz hasn't been same kicker he was in 2013 all year. If Ohio is that far into opponent territory, they need to be going for it. Play to win.


I'm not saying they weren't tough field goals, but I thought he would have hit at least one of them even in the conditions. He's shown himself to be that good. One way or another, it was points that could have been had. And either way, the coaching staff's game plan had Ohio in position to win a game against a superior opponent, so something was good about it. I just find it amazing that people can be so upset about coaching in this instance when the reality is that Ohio played an extremely good game.


They played a great game other than some questionable play calls, mistakes on both side of the ball and turnovers. That seems to be a recurring theme.
Back to Top
  
OhioCatFan
General User



Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Athens, OH
Post Count: 14,016

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 11:01:10 AM 
Casper, I'll tell you what the "it" is, and it's youth. The cure is another year of maturity and more practice. I think you'll find next year's team will be very good. While I was very disappointed in the outcome last night, and had a fit over that last fumble, I can't help but acknowledge that overall this team has improved as the year has progressed. Do you really think #45 would have gained all those yards if we had played NIU in week three? The OL wouldn't have been able to open up any holes for him at all. As it was he sometimes practically made holes for himself. Other times, though, the OL did a very good job of blocking and making openings for him to get passed that first level.

In terms of the FG attempts, Frank said in his post-game interview that in retrospect he made a bad call and we probably should have gone for it on both of those 4th downs. Note, he didn't blame players, he did blame an OC, he blamed himself. That's one thing I've always liked about Frank, he doesn't point fingers. He also said last night that this team was very down after the loss but that they would bounce back and be ready for Oxford Tech. He was very complimentary about the team's attitude and its willingness to learn and get better. That's the attitude that champions are made of and I dare say before the freshman on this team graduate they will be MAC champions. Go OHIO!

Last Edited: 11/19/2014 11:02:37 AM by OhioCatFan

The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA

"It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right."

Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org

Back to Top
  
bobcat695
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Parkersburg, WV
Post Count: 1,345

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 11:06:07 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
That's the attitude that champions are made of and I dare say before the freshman on this team graduate they will be MAC champions. Go OHIO!


This quote has been heard in Athens for 46 consecutive seasons.

"You can't un-fist a fist pump." - Saul Phillips 1/24/15

Back to Top
  
Bcat2
General User

Member Since: 7/6/2010
Post Count: 4,295

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 11:16:48 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Casper, I'll tell you what the "it" is, and it's youth. The cure is another year of maturity and more practice. I think you'll find next year's team will be very good. While I was very disappointed in the outcome last night, and had a fit over that last fumble, I can't help but acknowledge that overall this team has improved as the year has progressed. Do you really think #45 would have gained all those yards if we had played NIU in week three? The OL wouldn't have been able to open up any holes for him at all. As it was he sometimes practically made holes for himself. Other times, though, the OL did a very good job of blocking and making openings for him to get passed that first level.

In terms of the FG attempts, Frank said in his post-game interview that in retrospect he made a bad call and we probably should have gone for it on both of those 4th downs. Note, he didn't blame players, he did blame an OC, he blamed himself. That's one thing I've always liked about Frank, he doesn't point fingers. He also said last night that this team was very down after the loss but that they would bounce back and be ready for Oxford Tech. He was very complimentary about the team's attitude and its willingness to learn and get better. That's the attitude that champions are made of and I dare say before the freshman on this team graduate they will be MAC champions. Go OHIO!


Usually, the pregame includes practice kicks that are in the game conditions and give the coaches info about what is doable that day. There was a replay that had Josiah throwing his hands up. He expected to make it. If they have seen it work in pregame and Josiah is there saying he can do it I think it was OK to try the kicks.

"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK

Back to Top
  
All Football
General User

Member Since: 8/6/2014
Post Count: 18

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 11:57:30 AM 
Wow the first person that actually knows football. I couldn't of said it any better GoCats105, that was the game to the T.
Back to Top
  
All Football
General User

Member Since: 8/6/2014
Post Count: 18

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 11:59:40 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
Here are my two problems with last night:

1. NIU's two QBs are obviously way behind the 8-ball compared to the last several QBs they have had. Yet time and time again they made the plays that kept the drives moving. I'm sorry, but Hare is not a guy that I can see being a next great MAC QB. He may have some yards on the ground this year, but he really didn't seem all that quick. Yet he still gets first downs when NIU needs them. Those are the times where the LBs need to be stepping up their game. He doesn't have that great of an arm, so you have to look for him to run it, right?

2. Just boneheaded plays over and over and over again by Ohio, which at this point in the season are almost uncalled for:

- Lucas Powell's snap to Derrius Vick when Vick wasn't looking.

- O-line missing key blocks in the running game. Like obvious ones that would have sprung A.J. for more yards.

- Vick throwing awful, awful passes into coverage.

- Vick just throwing deep balls up for grabs when he is pressured. Ohio got lucky last night to get mostly P.I. calls on NIU I think.

- Brown's targeting penalty, which turned out to be not that bad because NIU got a personal foul the next play.

- Questionable calls on 4th down by the coaching staff. The one on the last drive that worked was fantastic. But I'm one of those guys if you have the ball inside the opponents 40 and it's 4th down and short yardage, go for it. It's obvious Yaz has struggled this year in the kicking game a bit. And the wind/cold were obviously affecting his leg last night. You've got a shot to beat NIU at home, stop kicking FGs, man up and get 1st downs and score TDs. Especially with the night A.J. was having.

I did love the effort the guys gave last night though. Last year's team would have gotten blown out I think.
Back to Top
  
Casper71
General User

Member Since: 12/1/2006
Post Count: 2,895

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 12:54:29 PM 
OCF-what was it last year? And the year before? And since that ill-fated Miami game? Please note, even an experienced HC in FS said he made mistakes and obviously wasn't on his A-game. I could see trying the first FG, but the second from the same spot and going in the same direction? The problems of the last 30+ games are more than youth. Their seems to be a complete lack of focus from the top down to the last man. That wasn't the case when this staff and their teams were playing really good football.
Back to Top
  
C Money
General User



Member Since: 8/28/2010
Post Count: 3,420

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 1:17:19 PM 
Casper71 wrote:
OCF-what was it last year? And the year before? And since that ill-fated Miami game? Please note, even an experienced HC in FS said he made mistakes and obviously wasn't on his A-game. I could see trying the first FG, but the second from the same spot and going in the same direction? The problems of the last 30+ games are more than youth. Their seems to be a complete lack of focus from the top down to the last man. That wasn't the case when this staff and their teams were playing really good football.



I'mma throw something out there....and maybe it's completely off base and maybe it's not......but didn't we give Frank and the coordinators their big extensions between 2011 and 2012? Before that, the contracts would have expired in 2013...with the extensions, they have jobs until 2017, which was basically when Frank had in mind to retire anyway.

Job security MIGHT cause a bit of complacency....and 2012 is the year things seemed to change.
Back to Top
  
Bcat2
General User

Member Since: 7/6/2010
Post Count: 4,295

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 3:54:14 PM 
Casper71 wrote:
OCF-what was it last year? And the year before? And since that ill-fated Miami game? Please note, even an experienced HC in FS said he made mistakes and obviously wasn't on his A-game. I could see trying the first FG, but the second from the same spot and going in the same direction? The problems of the last 30+ games are more than youth. Their seems to be a complete lack of focus from the top down to the last man. That wasn't the case when this staff and their teams were playing really good football.


Some look at the whole 9-10 years. There are those who find their happiness looking at the last 30 games. I am finding my happiness looking at the last two games.

Vs Buffalo, a good win, rushing over 200, rushing per carry up to 4.2, A.J. over 100. Vick 44 yards rushing. 36 min time of possession. Defense held Buffalo 17 below their scoring average, allowed only 7 first downs, 28 net yards rushing and 1.1 per attempt.

Vs NIU, a good game. Second game in a row rushing over 200, per rush average increased to 5.2. A.J again over 100 w/2 TDs. Vick 80 yards rushing. 33 minutes of possession. Defense held NIU 10 below their scoring average, 125 below their total offense average, 120 below their rushing average, to 3.4 per rush almost 2 yards below their season average.

The running game is getting in gear an the defense is playing very well. These last two games have me believing better times are ahead. My glass is more than half full.

Last Edited: 11/19/2014 4:05:01 PM by Bcat2

"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK

Back to Top
  
Mark Lembright '85
General User

Member Since: 8/22/2010
Location: Highland Heights, OH
Post Count: 2,447

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 4:26:29 PM 
C Money wrote:
Casper71 wrote:
OCF-what was it last year? And the year before? And since that ill-fated Miami game? Please note, even an experienced HC in FS said he made mistakes and obviously wasn't on his A-game. I could see trying the first FG, but the second from the same spot and going in the same direction? The problems of the last 30+ games are more than youth. Their seems to be a complete lack of focus from the top down to the last man. That wasn't the case when this staff and their teams were playing really good football.



I'mma throw something out there....and maybe it's completely off base and maybe it's not......but didn't we give Frank and the coordinators their big extensions between 2011 and 2012? Before that, the contracts would have expired in 2013...with the extensions, they have jobs until 2017, which was basically when Frank had in mind to retire anyway.

Job security MIGHT cause a bit of complacency....and 2012 is the year things seemed to change.



And 2012 is the anomaly. Ohio started out 2012 like a bat of you-know-where with a thumping of Penn State at Penn State, eventually reaching #23 (or something around there) with a 7-0 record. TT gets hurt, and the wheels just came off the season (until the Advocare 100 Independence Bowl win).
Back to Top
  
perimeterpost
General User



Member Since: 7/6/2010
Post Count: 3,165

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 4:50:08 PM 
NIU was 6/13 on 3rd down, Ohio was 7/14.
NIU had 19 1st downs, Ohio had 24.
NIU had 3 3-and-outs, Ohio had 0.
NIU's QBs were 16/24(66.7%) for 184yds, Vick was 19/28(67.9%) for 141yds.
NIU's QBs ran 17 times for 69yds, Vick ran 12 times for 80yds.
NIU had 3 drives longer than 32yds, Ohio had 6 drives longer than 32yds.

But the narrative is NIU's QBs "kept making big plays time and time again to keep drives moving" while Vick was just "throwing awful, awful passes into coverage".

MY STATE. MY TEAM.
Back to Top
  
OhioCatFan
General User



Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Athens, OH
Post Count: 14,016

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 5:32:50 PM 
Casper: I think you've got to throw out last year, for reasons hashed out elsewhere. This is a rebuilding year. I can't figure out why you can't project the improvement seen in-season this year to next year and see that the prospects are bright. We are light years better now than we were in the first three games. If we played Marshall again, I think you'd find a tight score, like last night.

cMoney: I think you are way off base. I'm fairly certain Frank has thought very little at this point about retiring. He may wake up one day and say, OK, I've had enough, I better retire after this season is over, but I don't think that day has arrived yet. He's probably more like Amos Alonzo Stagg than JoePa. He'll coach as long as his health allows, and that could be a good long while, Good Lord willing.

The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA

"It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right."

Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org

Back to Top
  
L.C.
General User

Member Since: 8/31/2005
Location: United States
Post Count: 10,064

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 6:31:02 PM 
Bcat2 wrote:
The PI calls were the NIU defenders saving TDs. Vick throws a good deep ball. Again, does anyone here know how to acknowledge the other team. NIU is getting better through the season too. This would have been a great MAC Championship. JMHO.

+1

All in all, I thought it was a very even game, a game that could have gone either way. All things considered, I felt like the cold hurt Ohio more than it hurt NIU, probably because almost all of NIU's roster is made up of players from norther states such as Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, and Illinois.

Like Bcat2, see the a huge improvement from the earlier this year, and I think it bodes well for the future.

I said before the season that I was going to be 100% behind this team as long as they kept playing hard. They have never given up, and they have played hard. While the results haven't been quite as good as I had hoped, I'm still behind them 100%.

Last Edited: 11/19/2014 6:58:31 PM by L.C.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

Back to Top
  
BillyTheCat
General User

Member Since: 10/6/2012
Post Count: 9,458

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 7:18:40 PM 
perimeterpost wrote:
NIU was 6/13 on 3rd down, Ohio was 7/14.
NIU had 19 1st downs, Ohio had 24.
NIU had 3 3-and-outs, Ohio had 0.
NIU's QBs were 16/24(66.7%) for 184yds, Vick was 19/28(67.9%) for 141yds.
NIU's QBs ran 17 times for 69yds, Vick ran 12 times for 80yds.
NIU had 3 drives longer than 32yds, Ohio had 6 drives longer than 32yds.

But the narrative is NIU's QBs "kept making big plays time and time again to keep drives moving" while Vick was just "throwing awful, awful passes into coverage".


Why would you bring evidence and statistics into this? ;-)
Back to Top
  
Deciduous Forest Cat
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Ohio
Post Count: 4,305

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 7:29:55 PM 
I don't think the cold was a factor in yesterday's game at all. Both of yazdanis kicks were just not well struck and you could see that at liftoff.
Back to Top
  
Cats-22
General User

Member Since: 9/30/2006
Post Count: 369

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 7:46:58 PM 
perimeterpost wrote:
NIU was 6/13 on 3rd down, Ohio was 7/14.
NIU had 19 1st downs, Ohio had 24.
NIU had 3 3-and-outs, Ohio had 0.
NIU's QBs were 16/24(66.7%) for 184yds, Vick was 19/28(67.9%) for 141yds.
NIU's QBs ran 17 times for 69yds, Vick ran 12 times for 80yds.
NIU had 3 drives longer than 32yds, Ohio had 6 drives longer than 32yds.

But the narrative is NIU's QBs "kept making big plays time and time again to keep drives moving" while Vick was just "throwing awful, awful passes into coverage".

Thanks for this. This matches up with the game I thought I saw. Big issue was field position in the first half, if only Ohio had started out with an extra 30 yards, that would have been the difference. On the whole Ohio moved the ball better than NIU.

The team has improved. They gave great effort. This won't end up being Ohio's best season but I like how the team has finished so far.

Beat Miami.
Back to Top
  
L.C.
General User

Member Since: 8/31/2005
Location: United States
Post Count: 10,064

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/19/2014 7:47:55 PM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
I don't think the cold was a factor in yesterday's game at all. Both of yazdanis kicks were just not well struck and you could see that at liftoff.

The ball gets a lot harder when it's cold, and I think all kickers lose range in the cold. I agree with Frank's assessment that he shouldn't have even tried them from that range in that temperature.

Last Edited: 11/19/2014 7:48:09 PM by L.C.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

Back to Top
  
GoCats105
General User

Member Since: 1/31/2006
Location: Seattle, WA
Post Count: 6,912

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/20/2014 7:23:56 AM 
perimeterpost wrote:
NIU was 6/13 on 3rd down, Ohio was 7/14.
NIU had 19 1st downs, Ohio had 24.
NIU had 3 3-and-outs, Ohio had 0.
NIU's QBs were 16/24(66.7%) for 184yds, Vick was 19/28(67.9%) for 141yds.
NIU's QBs ran 17 times for 69yds, Vick ran 12 times for 80yds.
NIU had 3 drives longer than 32yds, Ohio had 6 drives longer than 32yds.

But the narrative is NIU's QBs "kept making big plays time and time again to keep drives moving" while Vick was just "throwing awful, awful passes into coverage".


How many times did the NIU QB pick up a 1st down with his legs when they needed it in key situations? I know of at least three that helped keep drives alive.

How many times did Vick throw into coverage? I know at least the one that got picked off, another down by the goal line where the receiver was covered and all of the deep throws where luckily NIU got called for P.I.
Back to Top
  
shabamon
General User



Member Since: 11/17/2006
Location: Cincinnati
Post Count: 6,104

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Good Team, Unlucky Injuries, Bad Coaching
   Posted: 11/20/2014 8:56:39 AM 
L.C. wrote:
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
I don't think the cold was a factor in yesterday's game at all. Both of yazdanis kicks were just not well struck and you could see that at liftoff.

The ball gets a lot harder when it's cold, and I think all kickers lose range in the cold. I agree with Frank's assessment that he shouldn't have even tried them from that range in that temperature.


Baseball announcers talk about this all the time in July and August. Scorching weather facilitates the long ball.
Back to Top
  
Showing Replies:  26 - 50  of 66 Posts
Jump to Page:  < Previous    1 | 2 | 3    Next >
View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             



WHO'S ONLINE
There are 222 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com
220 Guests
2 Registered Users:
 Victory, Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
There are no other users looking at this page.




Copyright ©2024 BobcatAttack.com. All rights reserved.  |  Privacy Policy  |  Terms of Use
Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties