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Mike Johnson
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 6 Thread: Central Michigan
   Posted: 9/30/2014 5:43:56 PM 
perimeterpost wrote:
Mike Johnson wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
lovebobcat wrote:
perimeterpost wrote:
2005 L 37-10, @CMU
2006 L 31-10, MACC
2008 L 31-28, home
2009 L 20-10, MACC
2011 W 43-28, @CMU
2013 L 26-23, home

Some tough losses in there. Twice in Detroit, twice losing at home because of fumbles in the 4th quarter. We owe them.


I was at the 2006 MACC game and the home losses in 2008 and last year. Every one of them stunk. Haven't seen our men beat the Chips yet.

It'll come down to turnovers. When two teams are evenly matched, it nearly always does. (Excepting the opener this year against Kent, though I think we were a much better team and our fumble woes made it closer than it should have been.)


It still hurts when I think of Boo Jackson's fumble at CMU's goal line in the last quarter of the '08 game.


Agreed. As you know, the fumble came when Boo stretched - unnecessarily - for the goal line. No fumble, Ohio wins and that 4-8 season might have unfolded quite differently.


and don't forget that after that fumble Ohio's defense stopped CMU and forced them to punt. Ohio had the ball near mid field with 2 minutes left when Boo fumbled again on 1st down and CMU recovered. painful.

If you go back and look at the game recaps of losses that year you see a lot of devastating turnovers that really costs us several wins.


Yes, not least of which was Ohio's muffed punt when leading OSU going into the 4th quarter and just having forced OSU into a 3-and-out to begin that 4th.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 6 Thread: Central Michigan
   Posted: 9/30/2014 6:48:06 PM 
Mike Johnson wrote:
perimeterpost wrote:
Mike Johnson wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
lovebobcat wrote:
perimeterpost wrote:
2005 L 37-10, @CMU
2006 L 31-10, MACC
2008 L 31-28, home
2009 L 20-10, MACC
2011 W 43-28, @CMU
2013 L 26-23, home

Some tough losses in there. Twice in Detroit, twice losing at home because of fumbles in the 4th quarter. We owe them.


I was at the 2006 MACC game and the home losses in 2008 and last year. Every one of them stunk. Haven't seen our men beat the Chips yet.

It'll come down to turnovers. When two teams are evenly matched, it nearly always does. (Excepting the opener this year against Kent, though I think we were a much better team and our fumble woes made it closer than it should have been.)


It still hurts when I think of Boo Jackson's fumble at CMU's goal line in the last quarter of the '08 game.


Agreed. As you know, the fumble came when Boo stretched - unnecessarily - for the goal line. No fumble, Ohio wins and that 4-8 season might have unfolded quite differently.


and don't forget that after that fumble Ohio's defense stopped CMU and forced them to punt. Ohio had the ball near mid field with 2 minutes left when Boo fumbled again on 1st down and CMU recovered. painful.

If you go back and look at the game recaps of losses that year you see a lot of devastating turnovers that really costs us several wins.


Yes, not least of which was Ohio's muffed punt when leading OSU going into the 4th quarter and just having forced OSU into a 3-and-out to begin that 4th.


it started in Wk1 @Wyoming, 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter, 1st and 10 on the WY 35, down 21-20, and we throw an interception. Game over. Gm 2 was @ OSU, Gm 3 was CMU, then came @ Northwestern for game 4.

N'western won 16-8 but Ohio missed 3 FGs from 42, 27(blocked), and 38(blocked). Ohio had 4 turnovers- 2 interceptions in NW endzone, 1 QB fumble on our own 10, and in the 4th quarter Brazill fumbled on the NW 18. Every single TO was devastating. Amazingly, our defense held a 3-0 NW teams to 280yds and caused 5 TOs.

The other retched loss that year was our only loss to Temple. After 3 quarters Temple had zero points and a total of just 45 yds of offense. Down 10-7 with 9 minutes left in the 4th Temple has 1st and goal at the Ohio 2yd line and comes away with zero points (missed FG). Ohio takes over on their own 20yd line with under 5 minutes left in the 4th. On the first play Boo fumbles and Temple recovers on the Ohio 18. They score another TD, Ohio loses 14-10.

2008 was a painful, painful year.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 6 Thread: Central Michigan
   Posted: 10/1/2014 10:36:42 AM 
Just remember, guys, you can't have it both ways. If you take credit for the TO's we used to defeat Marshall the last couple years despite their claims of fluke randomness, then we have to concede that TO's that cost us games were similarly earned by our opposition.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 6 Thread: Central Michigan
   Posted: 10/1/2014 10:42:32 AM 
There has to be an emphasis on stopping the run. It was tough to watch how they pushed OUr D around last season. Holes were huge. That being said we should have won that game.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 6 Thread: Central Michigan
   Posted: 10/1/2014 11:22:31 AM 
I liked Boo a lot. His fumbles really masked how good he could be at times.

That fumbled punt at OSU will always stick out in my memory. You can't say for certain we win if that doesn't happen, but man we just might have... That game was going well for us. All of the things that needed to happen up to that point to pull the upset kept happening... Speaking of Boo, every time I hear the hells bells chime I imagine him scrambling for a 1st down on 3rd and long....

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 6 Thread: Central Michigan
   Posted: 10/1/2014 3:01:32 PM 
Bobcatbob wrote:
Just remember, guys, you can't have it both ways. If you take credit for the TO's we used to defeat Marshall the last couple years despite their claims of fluke randomness, then we have to concede that TO's that cost us games were similarly earned by our opposition.


never said they weren't earned, just pointing out how ill timed and numerous they were.

Edit: I should also add, we can take credit for the TOs in the Marshall game because Marshall was not prone to turnovers in other games that seasons. For Ohio's offense in 2008 having devastating TOs multiple times in multiple games suggests the issue was more with our execution than that of the defense. I remember the feeling of dread any time our offense was within 20 yards of either end zone, it was as if a TO was inevitable.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 6 Thread: Central Michigan
   Posted: 10/1/2014 3:32:21 PM 
Bobcatbob wrote:
Just remember, guys, you can't have it both ways. If you take credit for the TO's we used to defeat Marshall the last couple years despite their claims of fluke randomness, then we have to concede that TO's that cost us games were similarly earned by our opposition.


Only if they're forced turnovers. I'd say last year's muffed punt wasn't a forced turnover. It was a mistake primarily by the coaching staff for having a player within 20 yds of it, and secondarily by Carrie for trying to catch it in traffic.

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   Posted: 10/1/2014 7:10:02 PM 

 

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 6 Thread: Central Michigan
   Posted: 10/1/2014 7:58:44 PM 
If we could get a win this week up in Mt. Pleasant that is going to be huge going into the homecoming game at 4-2 against Bowling Green. The fate of our season is going to be decided over the next 3 weeks. Go 3-0 and we are in the driver seat for the division title with a 4-0 MAC start and WMU, Miami, Buffalo down the stretch. Go 2-1 and we're on the road to a bowl berth. Do poorly in this stretch and the season is finished with BG and/or Akron having tie breakers over us in the East. The team has to approach each of these three games like a MAC Championship game where its do or die.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 6 Thread: Central Michigan
   Posted: 10/1/2014 8:37:50 PM 
Uncle Wes wrote:
If we could get a win this week up in Mt. Pleasant that is going to be huge going into the homecoming game at 4-2 against Bowling Green. The fate of our season is going to be decided over the next 3 weeks. Go 3-0 and we are in the driver seat for the division title with a 4-0 MAC start and WMU, Miami, Buffalo down the stretch. Go 2-1 and we're on the road to a bowl berth. Do poorly in this stretch and the season is finished with BG and/or Akron having tie breakers over us in the East. The team has to approach each of these three games like a MAC Championship game where its do or die.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 6 Thread: Central Michigan
   Posted: 10/2/2014 8:59:49 AM 
Uncle Wes wrote:
If we could get a win this week up in Mt. Pleasant that is going to be huge going into the homecoming game at 4-2 against Bowling Green. The fate of our season is going to be decided over the next 3 weeks. Go 3-0 and we are in the driver seat for the division title with a 4-0 MAC start and WMU, Miami, Buffalo down the stretch. Go 2-1 and we're on the road to a bowl berth. Do poorly in this stretch and the season is finished with BG and/or Akron having tie breakers over us in the East. The team has to approach each of these three games like a MAC Championship game where its do or die.

I agree with what you said...until the last sentence. The team has to approach each game the same way; they need to play their best, and try to keep improving. They need to focus on each player doing their best, and on trusting their teammates to also do their part.

Here's an interesting note. I think that this is a winnable game, and if Ohio wins this game, this year will be in a four-way tie for the best record through 6 games in the Solich era. The 2012 team started out 6-0, and next best are 2009, 2011, and 2013, all of which started 4-2. I don't think this team is as good, yet, as those teams, but they have improved quite a bit from week 1, and all three of those years did end up as bowl years.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 6 Thread: Central Michigan
   Posted: 10/2/2014 8:21:58 PM 
Under Solich Ohio is 26-11 in October, an average of about 3-1. Only one season (2008) had a losing record in October. If we can go at least 2-2 this month I'd be satisfied. Except for the T'erd game we've played pretty steady, and I don't see a T'erd-like team on the October schedule. CMU and Akron have been inconsistent, BG has D problems and WMU has been a lot like us. If this team continues to improve, we could have an average or better October.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 6 Thread: Central Michigan
   Posted: 10/2/2014 10:26:28 PM 
Getting stoked for some CMU visit it on them.

If we can keep showing the improvement and guys keep playing (I'm likin' me some depth), then I'll be happy.

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   Posted: 10/2/2014 11:25:14 PM 
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 6 Thread: Central Michigan
   Posted: 10/3/2014 6:44:50 AM 
Hustle belt


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 6 Thread: Central Michigan
   Posted: 10/3/2014 9:56:24 AM 
Mike Johnson wrote:
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It still hurts when I think of Boo Jackson's fumble at CMU's goal line in the last quarter of the '08 game.


Agreed. As you know, the fumble came when Boo stretched - unnecessarily - for the goal line. No fumble, Ohio wins and that 4-8 season might have unfolded quite differently.


Same thing happened at the end of last night's UCF-Houston game: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/houston-s...

Last Edited: 10/3/2014 10:01:42 AM by Pataskala

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   Posted: 10/3/2014 11:00:00 AM 
Pataskala wrote:
Mike Johnson wrote:
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It still hurts when I think of Boo Jackson's fumble at CMU's goal line in the last quarter of the '08 game.


Agreed. As you know, the fumble came when Boo stretched - unnecessarily - for the goal line. No fumble, Ohio wins and that 4-8 season might have unfolded quite differently.


Same thing happened at the end of last night's UCF-Houston game: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/houston-s...


Sort of the same thing almost happened in the Arizona-Oregon game later on in the night, too. Mariota fumbled right at the goal line. They called it a TD though. It didn't look like he got in.
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   Posted: 10/3/2014 2:03:53 PM 
This will be an interesting game. On one side you have a very young, but talented Bobcat team. On the other hand you have a very experienced CMU team that returns 18 starters from last year. In fact, I read on the CMU board that they actually return 33 players that have started at least one game, so they have depth that has experience, too. Ohio often plays 3 true freshman on the offensive line, and starts a former walkon at QB and RB. CMU returns all 5 veteran offensive linemen, plus their QB, and has a Michigan transfer for their RB. Adding to that, the CMU players return from a team that beat Ohio a year ago, at Ohio.

Reading all that, you'd expect a blowout win by CMU, yet the oddsmakers call it a 4 point game. Why is it projected to be so close? Because Ohio has been improving, and because CMU has been inconsistent. If both those continue, Ohio could win this. If not, CMU will win.

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   Posted: 10/3/2014 5:07:40 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
Under Solich Ohio is 26-11 in October, an average of about 3-1. Only one season (2008) had a losing record in October. If we can go at least 2-2 this month I'd be satisfied. Except for the T'erd game we've played pretty steady, and I don't see a T'erd-like team on the October schedule. CMU and Akron have been inconsistent, BG has D problems and WMU has been a lot like us. If this team continues to improve, we could have an average or better October.


To observe that Solich has had a certain record in certain months and think that means anything at all is a little ridculous. The month of the year has nothing to do with it. It's the make-up of our team, the opponent, and having the game play out. Anything else is voodoo and speculation.
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   Posted: 10/3/2014 7:49:37 PM 
Cats2014 wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
Under Solich Ohio is 26-11 in October, an average of about 3-1. Only one season (2008) had a losing record in October. If we can go at least 2-2 this month I'd be satisfied. Except for the T'erd game we've played pretty steady, and I don't see a T'erd-like team on the October schedule. CMU and Akron have been inconsistent, BG has D problems and WMU has been a lot like us. If this team continues to improve, we could have an average or better October.


To observe that Solich has had a certain record in certain months and think that means anything at all is a little ridculous. The month of the year has nothing to do with it. It's the make-up of our team, the opponent, and having the game play out. Anything else is voodoo and speculation.


The record deals with facts, almost everything else on this board is voodoo and speculation. If you don't want to partake, move on as you wish
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   Posted: 10/3/2014 8:03:54 PM 
Cats2014 wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
Under Solich Ohio is 26-11 in October, an average of about 3-1. Only one season (2008) had a losing record in October. If we can go at least 2-2 this month I'd be satisfied. Except for the T'erd game we've played pretty steady, and I don't see a T'erd-like team on the October schedule. CMU and Akron have been inconsistent, BG has D problems and WMU has been a lot like us. If this team continues to improve, we could have an average or better October.


To observe that Solich has had a certain record in certain months and think that means anything at all is a little ridculous. The month of the year has nothing to do with it. It's the make-up of our team, the opponent, and having the game play out. Anything else is voodoo and speculation.


Or perhaps there is a pattern of steady improvement by a Solich coached team through the middle of the season as compared to other teams in the MAC. The specific month of the year may not be important except that October might be when a Solich team is hitting on all cylinders. Or it could be just happenstance.
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   Posted: 10/3/2014 8:47:38 PM 
bobcat2nc wrote:
Or perhaps there is a pattern of steady improvement by a Solich coached team through the middle of the season as compared to other teams in the MAC. The specific month of the year may not be important except that October might be when a Solich team is hitting on all cylinders. Or it could be just happenstance.

I think you see that pattern of steady improvement in most years, but it was notably absent from three years, 2005, 2012, and 2013. In both 2005 and 2012 the team got worse towards the end as injuries took an ever-increasing toll. 2013 had issues of it's own.

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   Posted: 10/4/2014 12:56:22 AM 
Bobcat fan faithful excitement for this one is palpable; there must be nearly a double-digit number of posters who've chimed in on these threads since the last game.

Yeah, the kind of enthusiasm that clearly states that we're ready to move up to a better conference.

Good on all of you who've posted this week. The rest of the people are weak.

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