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bobcat695
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Bass exposed

Posted: 9/13/2014 1:06:19 PM

Cato is toying with him. Why is he in so much single coverage? It was obvious to me at Kent that the left side of the secondary was going to get picked apart this year. The first half of this game has been painful to watch.

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GoCats105
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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/13/2014 1:28:55 PM

I have to be honest I've never understood the love for Bass at corner. He's fast and a great return man, but he's small and gets beat by big WRs regularly. He also seems to have a lot of pass interference penalties against him. He deflects a lot of balls, but that could be because the ratio of balls being thrown at him is higher than the other corners.

Paul Graham
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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/13/2014 1:46:58 PM

I said this before the season started. He's not someone that should be a several year starter for us.

And that's exactly right. He got lots of passes defended last year because he had Carrie on the other side.

Last Edited: 9/13/2014 1:47:39 PM by Paul Graham

L.C.
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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/13/2014 3:23:46 PM

bobcat695 wrote:

... Why is [Bass] in so much single coverage? ...

It has to do with the new defensive scheme. In the old scheme, the corners had a primary responsibility of a short zone, and when the receivers went deep, they had a safety taking the deep threat. The corners played off the receivers so that they could read the play as it developed.

With the new scheme, the corners are essentially man on man on the wide out. They play up tight because they don't need to read the play, they just need to obstruct the path of the receivers and then stick on them. They may have deep help, but most of the time they will not.

For the scheme to work very well, Ohio needs to get pressure on the QB quickly, so that he doesn't have too much time. The corner can't stick on the WR forever. This defense is all about attacking the offense, while the old defense was a bend-but-don't-break philosophy. It is also quite possible that players that were good in one defensive scheme do not do as well in the other, and vice versa.

Was it a good idea to switch to this defense? We'll have to see how it goes. It worked fairly well against Kent and Kentucky, and didn't work at all against Marshall.

Last Edited: 9/13/2014 3:30:47 PM by L.C.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/14/2014 3:27:56 AM

He needed this as a humbling expirience he went against some very good WRs today I think this will force him to work on things and improve he was just physically out matched in this game at 5'8 going up guys 6'2 that can really run and jump

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/14/2014 5:11:54 AM

Still believe hell have a great season for us and has certainly earned his spot as a starter one bad game doesn't mean anything

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/15/2014 8:26:37 AM

I think this was a little personal, too. Last year, the Herd coaches consistently went after Devin and he weathered the storm. He was the difference in the 2nd half in 2013. The coaches were screaming at the MU WRs on the sideline for not being able to shake him. Having witnessed that up close and then seeing the bomb on the first series, I know Bass was going to have a long day.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/15/2014 8:57:56 AM

GoCats105 wrote:

The love for Bass is that he's rarely burned by receivers and he also could be the best fundamental tackler on the team. The problem, like you said, is that when he has to defend a receiver with a size advantage, an accurate quarterback can beat him.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/15/2014 10:58:51 AM

Bass seemed to be in the right place for every pass that was completed. It was definitely the height disadvantage, and they had a QB who could squeeze it into tight spots. I have watched Devon - even on his kick returns, and this guy has a lot of heart. He'll be fine going forward. Coaches have to watch teams with big receivers and devise a plan to help him out, but we won't play many QB's with Cato's accuracy. Cato also knows his receivers like the back of his hand. He can throw to spots on the field.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/16/2014 6:18:52 PM

You are correct and I was there. He was truly beaten a couple of times but was in position on the others. Cato throws a great long ball and the WRs are talented. Going 0-fer on the first drive was not helpful.

These ARE the good old days..

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/16/2014 9:38:16 PM

I didn't see very many easy catches for the Herd receivers. Conversely, I didn't see very many difficult catches made by our receivers. We can talk about coaching, recruiting, experience, etc. but at some point players need to make plays.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/16/2014 10:12:42 PM

Bass was pretty tight on them for several of those - just an inch or so was the difference (and a perfect pass, and focused concentration by receiver) were the difference.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/21/2014 8:55:59 AM

Bump.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/21/2014 12:07:30 PM

Is it my imagination or do DB's seem to have changed their technique? Not just OHIO but others as well.

It would be like a major league outfielder not giving regards to the warning track and crashing into the wall full bore and not knowing where the ball was going.

These DB's cross the goal line chasing the receiver the receiver and DB are then nearing the back of the endzone or the receiver is angling out of bounds and the DB NEVER NEVER looks back but rather appears to defense the pass by letting the receiver get the ball and then DB tries to knock the ball out of his hands.

Go back to trying to make the pick or batting it down. When a receiver is two steps from going out of bounds or exiting the endzone--IT IS SAFE TO TURN AROUND AND MAKE A PLAY ON THE BALL.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/21/2014 9:39:32 PM

I'd say exposed again.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/21/2014 10:15:28 PM

19, 20-year-old kid who's working very hard to do his best. I hope he sees a great deal of success on the field and off.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/22/2014 4:52:23 AM

Definitely another rough week for Mr. Bass luckily next week is against FCS talent. I hope he can make some plays and get his mojo back because when we play BGSU he'll most definitely be tested.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/22/2014 7:10:04 AM

SBH wrote:

19, 20-year-old kid who's working very hard to do his best. I hope he sees a great deal of success on the field and off.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/22/2014 7:50:41 AM

SBH wrote:

19, 20-year-old kid who's working very hard to do his best. I hope he sees a great deal of success on the field and off.

SBH, mellowing as he ages. Kinda like Monroe.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/22/2014 10:11:29 AM

SBH wrote:

19, 20-year-old kid who's working very hard to do his best. I hope he sees a great deal of success on the field and off.

I agree, and I'm sure he's a good kid. But let's not pretend that these games are being played merely for fun and "trying is enough." This isn't pee wee football where everyone gets a trophy for trying. I hope the kid sees success as much as anyone else, but right now all he is seeing are deep balls headed his way over and over and over. Marshall targeted the crap out of him, Idaho went after him, too. This isn't by accident or happenstance. It's like a mountain lion chasing a herd of bighorn sheep: the mountain lion targets the weak and easy prey, whether it's fair or not. Right now, Devin is the easy prey. I hope he gets it turned around.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/22/2014 10:49:46 AM

100%Cat wrote:

SBH wrote:

19, 20-year-old kid who's working very hard to do his best. I hope he sees a great deal of success on the field and off.

Disagree. Bass is Ohio's best CB, preseason All MAC because he has paid his dues. This status means that game in, game out he will draw the other teams best WR often without help. So far we have seen him matched up against some really phenomenal athletes and he has lost some, but, I doubt any would say they had it easy against him. A little help over the top would seem appropriate given that he is usually against the other teams best.

Last Edited: 9/22/2014 10:51:46 AM by Bcat2

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OhioCatFan
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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/22/2014 10:55:37 AM

100%Cat wrote:

SBH wrote:

19, 20-year-old kid who's working very hard to do his best. I hope he sees a great deal of success on the field and off.

+1 He is not getting the job done. I think Frank & Co. need to start looking at other players to try and fill this role. Perhaps, Bass would be better playing another position on the team. I fear we are going to continue to see long pass plays on his side of the field be successful at a high percentage rate if he stays at that position. The alternative, I guess, is to feed him some HGH! :-)

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/22/2014 11:29:43 AM

SBH wrote:

19, 20-year-old kid who's working very hard to do his best. I hope he sees a great deal of success on the field and off.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/22/2014 11:33:13 AM

OhioCatFan wrote:

100%Cat wrote:

SBH wrote:

19, 20-year-old kid who's working very hard to do his best. I hope he sees a great deal of success on the field and off.

And you think the coaches do not know what they are doing? and do not evaluate these players at practice everyday? The reason Bass is out there is because he is the best we have! And he's doing a solid job! They threw 52 times Saturday, they will execute some plays as well! The one long TD was an outstanding catch on a ball that quite frankly was either going to be caught or incomplete

But what I chuckle at more than anything is how some of you absolutely love Coach Solich and his staff, yet at the same time they cannot do anything right.

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RE: Bass exposed

Posted: 9/22/2014 11:49:43 AM

BillyTheCat wrote:

. . .But what I chuckle at more than anything is how some of you absolutely love Coach Solich and his staff, yet at the same time they cannot do anything right.

Where did I say he and/or the assistants couldn't do anything right? I think that this is a rare exception. There are only a few things that I question about the coaching decisions of this staff. This just happens to be one of them.

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