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   Posted: 9/10/2014 2:28:03 AM 

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   Posted: 9/10/2014 2:32:08 AM 

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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5 (NT)
   Posted: 9/10/2014 2:35:42 AM 

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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 2:38:17 AM 
Sorry everyone for the blank post above - computer issues, and then I couldn't delete them.

OHIO holds a 32-19-6 record over Marshall (the mediocre football institution with an academic problem). We'll tell our big bad punters not to put that nasty spin on the ball so your guys can catch it this time.IT'S FOOTBALL - THAT'S WHY THE BALL HAST POINTED ENDS - TO MAKE IT BOUNCE FUNNY!

Marshall usually ends the season with as many wins as most Herd fans have teeth in their head: 6 or 7 if your lucky.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 4:24:52 AM 
Sony7 wrote:
Sorry everyone for the blank post above - computer issues, and then I couldn't delete them.

OHIO holds a 32-19-6 record over Marshall (the mediocre football institution with an academic problem). We'll tell our big bad punters not to put that nasty spin on the ball so your guys can catch it this time.IT'S FOOTBALL - THAT'S WHY THE BALL HAST POINTED ENDS - TO MAKE IT BOUNCE FUNNY!

Marshall usually ends the season with as many wins as most Herd fans have teeth in their head: 6 or 7 if your lucky.



Funny how you bobcat fans want to bring up ancient history for the W L records that no longer have any bearing and are not representstive of where either program is today. So glad the team will wax the new field with bobcats saturday.
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   Posted: 9/10/2014 7:14:29 AM 
goherd25 wrote:
Sony7 wrote:
Sorry everyone for the blank post above - computer issues, and then I couldn't delete them.

OHIO holds a 32-19-6 record over Marshall (the mediocre football institution with an academic problem). We'll tell our big bad punters not to put that nasty spin on the ball so your guys can catch it this time.IT'S FOOTBALL - THAT'S WHY THE BALL HAST POINTED ENDS - TO MAKE IT BOUNCE FUNNY!

Marshall usually ends the season with as many wins as most Herd fans have teeth in their head: 6 or 7 if your lucky.



Funny how you bobcat fans want to bring up ancient history for the W L records that no longer have any bearing and are not representstive of where either program is today. So glad the team will wax the new field with bobcats saturday.

Okay, 3-0 the past 3 years.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 8:48:38 AM 
cbarber357 wrote:
goherd25 wrote:
Sony7 wrote:
Sorry everyone for the blank post above - computer issues, and then I couldn't delete them.

OHIO holds a 32-19-6 record over Marshall (the mediocre football institution with an academic problem). We'll tell our big bad punters not to put that nasty spin on the ball so your guys can catch it this time.IT'S FOOTBALL - THAT'S WHY THE BALL HAST POINTED ENDS - TO MAKE IT BOUNCE FUNNY!

Marshall usually ends the season with as many wins as most Herd fans have teeth in their head: 6 or 7 if your lucky.



Funny how you bobcat fans want to bring up ancient history for the W L records that no longer have any bearing and are not representstive of where either program is today. So glad the team will wax the new field with bobcats saturday.

Okay, 3-0 the past 3 years.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 8:49:14 AM 
Line is Marshall -21 now at Bovada.
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   Posted: 9/10/2014 9:09:23 AM 
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Okay, 3-0 the past 3 years.


I love how ohio fans have to bring the most recent games as an indicator of where each program is..... jk

In all seriousness this is my favorite game each year. I always talk my dad into coming. It motivates me to tailgate. I love it. I wont know how this game is going to go until the end of the first quarter. If we take care of the ball then I will feel confident, if we fumble I might leave lol.

Last year was just a crap show by us. I literally was laughing at our ability to lose the ball. I take nothing away from Ohio's d, but I feel marshall loved shooting themselves in the foot. Now as the game was winding down ohio did the things needed to hold on to the win and you can't take that away.

I can't wait for this saturday and look forward to meeting more ohio fans.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 9:58:20 AM 
On the "toothless" comment, that's kind of "glass house...stones." Right in our back yard near the Ohio campus you will see some real Appalachian poverty. And the indexes of health habits show that that southeastern Ohio has as many problems as West Virginia.

On the other hand...I have to laugh about some Marshall fans attributing the past three losses to Ohio to "luck." As someone else noted, taking care of the football is part of the game, not some incidental luck factor.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 10:29:14 AM 
I agree with Jeff. The Ohio River is not quite the socioeconomic barrier some would suggest. My current hometown of Parkersburg is a much more sophisticated city than the hick town in Ohio I grew up in. I am more inclined to joke about Appalachia as a whole.

The few Marshall fans on this board are not representatitve of the entire fanbase. Very few Marshall fans that I know (all large Big Green donors and long-time season ticket holders) believe Marshall is a significantly better program than Ohio. Depending on the time horizon, an argument can be made for either side. Ohio fans like to point out our superior academic standing, but the two wealthiest clients I work with are Marshall grads. It is ridiculous to extract a combination of small data samples and anectdotal experience and present it as indisputible facts.

CUSA is just as bad of a conference as the MAC. Puffing your chest out to say you are only slightly less mediocre than Ohio is laughable. Marshall has had more success in football in the last 20 years. They have also done it under a cloud of suspicion, NCAA violations and academic gray areas. Jim Donnan and Bob Pruett are not sources of pride for most Marshall alumni.

I love the rivalry and think the teams are as competitively balanced now as they ever have been. Marshall fans are generally polite and welcoming when we roll into Huntington. I always enjoy my trip down there.

This week Vegas thinks Marshall is 3 touchdowns better than Ohio. Maybe they are right. Vegas set last week's line vs. UK based on their top RB being out for the game with an injury. There was also an 80% chance of thunderstorms. Those two factors could easily change the line by 6-7 points. Season records don't work either because Kentucky plays in the SEC. The only definitive way to determine if Marshall is better than Kentucky is for those two teams to play each other. Of course, the Herd fans in this thread don't think the final score of a game means anything in an argument about the better team.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 11:17:24 AM 
695 nails it. Again.

Isn't it funny who we reprise all these same "arguments" every time we play each other in football or basketball?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 12:15:05 PM 
goherd25 wrote:
cbarber357 wrote:
goherd25 wrote:
Sony7 wrote:
Sorry everyone for the blank post above - computer issues, and then I couldn't delete them.

OHIO holds a 32-19-6 record over Marshall (the mediocre football institution with an academic problem). We'll tell our big bad punters not to put that nasty spin on the ball so your guys can catch it this time.IT'S FOOTBALL - THAT'S WHY THE BALL HAST POINTED ENDS - TO MAKE IT BOUNCE FUNNY!

Marshall usually ends the season with as many wins as most Herd fans have teeth in their head: 6 or 7 if your lucky.



Funny how you bobcat fans want to bring up ancient history for the W L records that no longer have any bearing and are not representstive of where either program is today. So glad the team will wax the new field with bobcats saturday.

Okay, 3-0 the past 3 years.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 12:32:35 PM 
The dental comment was meant towards those Marshall students and fans that are too dumb to realize that fumbles are part of the game - not the region as a whole. Excuses, excuses with this person. We could win 44-7 and it would be because it rained or we kept passing the ball on them or we ran the ball too much and kept hitting them. It's football! That was the point. It's like trying to eat jello with a fork.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 12:40:56 PM 
Sorry but I personally would believe that by the time he is a senior, Towles from Kentucky will be better than Cato. Let's check and see who will not only be drafted by the NFL but who will play in the NFL. Cato is outstanding, don't get me wrong. But I've never been wowed by him. Just like DeAndre Kane when he was at Marshall. Never felt wowed by him. I think that was a result of bad coaching..but still. Don't sleep on Kentucky this year. They won't be world beaters but I will be they're bowl team.

And as for campuses and educations, I've been to Marshall many times and had to update my shots each time.
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   Posted: 9/10/2014 1:17:08 PM 
Bobcat1998 wrote:
Sorry but I personally would believe that by the time he is a senior, Towles from Kentucky will be better than Cato. Let's check and see who will not only be drafted by the NFL but who will play in the NFL. Cato is outstanding, don't get me wrong. But I've never been wowed by him. Just like DeAndre Kane when he was at Marshall. Never felt wowed by him. I think that was a result of bad coaching..but still. Don't sleep on Kentucky this year. They won't be world beaters but I will be they're bowl team.

And as for campuses and educations, I've been to Marshall many times and had to update my shots each time.


Im sorry but what does this have to do with anything? Cato is a very good college quarterback and will leave his mark on some record books. I dont know how he will do in the nfl or if he will get drafted, but that doesn't mean he isn't a good qb. And finally are you a UK fan or just throwing a name into a race since you dont know which qb is starting for you?

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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 2:16:34 PM 
It's kind of like which side of the sword do you want cut by herdfan. Either one of our QB's will move the ball against Marshall. Your D is not that strong - remember Miami? It's a matter of picking the one that will beat you. If our defense plays as well as they have been - I expect a win. The Bell stays in Athens. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I won't make excuses like -Your kicker put a really mean spin on the ball and we couldn't catch it. Or, we fumbled too much or we would have won.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 2:26:08 PM 
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It's kind of like which side of the sword do you want cut by herdfan. Either one of our QB's will move the ball against Marshall. Your D is not that strong - remember Miami? It's a matter of picking the one that will beat you. If our defense plays as well as they have been - I expect a win. The Bell stays in Athens. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I won't make excuses like -Your kicker put a really mean spin on the ball and we couldn't catch it. Or, we fumbled too much or we would have won.


I hope one of your qbs is able to move the ball.. and yes I remember the miami game since I was there. Did you watch it or just look at the scoreboard? If you watch miami was struggling vs our d until the 2nd half. In the 3rd quarter our d was put on the field in bad positions by our offense. Any defense when left out on the field for majority of a quarter will get tired. Also marshall ran very basic formations in both games. Its simple strategy of holding things until you need them and marshall has kept it vanilla for two games.

Finally about the kicker comment you know that was sarcasm right? Also if you go back on YOUR board you will find YOUR fans admitted some of the stupid things we did cost the game. Your defense cause most of the turnovers but a couple were just stupid stupid plays. I will never take credit from your team for WINNING that game but marshall didnt help matters.

Last Edited: 9/10/2014 2:43:42 PM by herdfan07

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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 2:46:47 PM 
Normally that's how it works when a team loses. They beat themselves. Most often, the other team has something to do with that by beating them at the line of scrimmage and wearing them down. That's when mistakes start to happen - when a team's collective head is not in the game. Good luck Marshall. If you were a MAC team, I'd say I'll root for you in all the games following ours - your not, so I won't. Have fun at the game - wish I could be there. Wisconsin is a bit too far to travel when I work early Monday morning.

P.S. Yes I watched some of the Miami game - it bored me so I turned it to a better game.

Last Edited: 9/10/2014 2:47:59 PM by Sony7


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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 4:11:41 PM 
herdfan07 wrote:
Sony7 wrote:
It's kind of like which side of the sword do you want cut by herdfan. Either one of our QB's will move the ball against Marshall. Your D is not that strong - remember Miami? It's a matter of picking the one that will beat you. If our defense plays as well as they have been - I expect a win. The Bell stays in Athens. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I won't make excuses like -Your kicker put a really mean spin on the ball and we couldn't catch it. Or, we fumbled too much or we would have won.


I hope one of your qbs is able to move the ball.. and yes I remember the miami game since I was there. Did you watch it or just look at the scoreboard? If you watch miami was struggling vs our d until the 2nd half. In the 3rd quarter our d was put on the field in bad positions by our offense. Any defense when left out on the field for majority of a quarter will get tired. Also marshall ran very basic formations in both games. Its simple strategy of holding things until you need them and marshall has kept it vanilla for two games.

Finally about the kicker comment you know that was sarcasm right? Also if you go back on YOUR board you will find YOUR fans admitted some of the stupid things we did cost the game. Your defense cause most of the turnovers but a couple were just stupid stupid plays. I will never take credit from your team for WINNING that game but marshall didnt help matters.



Guess you didn't see our 4 fumbles in the second half against Kent St but we only gave up 14 total points for the game on defense. Playing Rhode Island wouldn't exactly call for throwing everything but the kitchen sink at them. Guess you think E.Ky is better than KY when making comparisons. Your two opponents were probably two of the worst teams in the nation.
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   Posted: 9/10/2014 4:26:08 PM 
PhiTau74 wrote:
herdfan07 wrote:
Sony7 wrote:
It's kind of like which side of the sword do you want cut by herdfan. Either one of our QB's will move the ball against Marshall. Your D is not that strong - remember Miami? It's a matter of picking the one that will beat you. If our defense plays as well as they have been - I expect a win. The Bell stays in Athens. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I won't make excuses like -Your kicker put a really mean spin on the ball and we couldn't catch it. Or, we fumbled too much or we would have won.


I hope one of your qbs is able to move the ball.. and yes I remember the miami game since I was there. Did you watch it or just look at the scoreboard? If you watch miami was struggling vs our d until the 2nd half. In the 3rd quarter our d was put on the field in bad positions by our offense. Any defense when left out on the field for majority of a quarter will get tired. Also marshall ran very basic formations in both games. Its simple strategy of holding things until you need them and marshall has kept it vanilla for two games.

Finally about the kicker comment you know that was sarcasm right? Also if you go back on YOUR board you will find YOUR fans admitted some of the stupid things we did cost the game. Your defense cause most of the turnovers but a couple were just stupid stupid plays. I will never take credit from your team for WINNING that game but marshall didnt help matters.



Guess you didn't see our 4 fumbles in the second half against Kent St but we only gave up 14 total points for the game on defense. Playing Rhode Island wouldn't exactly call for throwing everything but the kitchen sink at them. Guess you think E.Ky is better than KY when making comparisons. Your two opponents were probably two of the worst teams in the nation.


I've never said we were better then UK..so please point where I said that... I also never said miami was good... again point that out. Also Miami's QB was good and I think later on you will see that. But dont go bragging about "can't read can't write" Kent state since they aren't exactly world beaters.

We also had 4 turnovers and can promise we didnt give up more than 3 points on those vs Rhode island. There is a reasonwhy we didnt open up the playbook vs eeach of those teams.

Last Edited: 9/10/2014 4:27:25 PM by herdfan07

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  Message Not Read  RE: Early line Marshall -20.5
   Posted: 9/10/2014 4:47:21 PM 
Yes, Marshall has a secret playbook they only bring out for OHIO. How did that work out for you the last three times we played and beat you? Hmmmm?


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   Posted: 9/10/2014 4:53:04 PM 
Sony7 wrote:
It's kind of like which side of the sword do you want cut by herdfan. Either one of our QB's will move the ball against Marshall. Your D is not that strong - remember Miami? It's a matter of picking the one that will beat you. If our defense plays as well as they have been - I expect a win. The Bell stays in Athens. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I won't make excuses like -Your kicker put a really mean spin on the ball and we couldn't catch it. Or, we fumbled too much or we would have won.



That was sarcasm for you all saying it wasnt luck. It is luck when the opposing teams juggles the kickoff for so long that the opposing team covers it in the end zone for a touchdown. That may be one of only a handful o times it has ever happened in the history of college football. Its different than a defense that strips the ball etc. Those 7 points were a gift. 44-7, was a beat down. The 2012 game was a good game. But 2013 was a turnover debacle where Ohio didnt beat us we did.

If we dont give you +3 in turnover margin, you dont have a prayer. Its that simple. I cant wait for the meltdown when you lose 45-7 or 45-17ish
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   Posted: 9/10/2014 5:00:34 PM 
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Yes, Marshall has a secret playbook they only bring out for OHIO. How did that work out for you the last three times we played and beat you? Hmmmm?


Please god tell me you didnt recieve your degree from ohio. I have respect for ohio but that would make me lose some of it.

Where did I say we had a secret playbook for ohio? Reading comprehension isn't that hard but I will break it down for you.

Our first two opponents were not good teams. We ran a vanilla offense and defense in both games. The reason coaches do this is for a multitude of reasons. 1. To get until players acclimated. 2. To not show much on game films.

So no we dont have a secret playbook just for you. I know ohio fans are better than this...

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   Posted: 9/10/2014 5:00:39 PM 
herdfan07 wrote:
...I've never said we were better then UK..so please point where I said that... I also never said miami was good... again point that out.....

Other herd fans have said those things, however. Unfortunately on message boards, it's easy to confuse which fan said what, and I'm sure it was unintentional. Here are some quotes from another Marshall fan:

The point with regard to UK was from this thread:
goherd25 wrote:
Are you serious? Yes Marshall is better than Kentucky. Kentucky isnt in any polls that i am aware of. Has never had a bit of attention. There is a reason for that.


goherd25 wrote:
...And to the guy who said no evidence about marshall being better than UK.... handicappers are pretty damn good at their predictions. A 16 point dog at UK and 20.5 at marshall says they think we are 4.5 points better than UK.


As for Miami being good, there was a whole other thread, "Maimi is now the MAC East favorite according to Marshall fans":
http://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromPa...


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