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OU_Country
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  Message Not Read  NLI question
   Posted: 2/8/2019 11:31:32 AM 
We all assume that Ohio basketball is rapidly approaching a transition to a new coaching staff. It just led me to wonder about how binding an NLI is in a scenario like OUrs. I'm well aware that the student athlete is able ask out of his NLI to re-open recruitment in the event of a coaching change.

What I'm wondering about is whether or not a coaching staff, when they're newly hired, can back out of an NLI situation for players who aren't yet enrolled? In OUr case right now, Wight and McDay are the examples. Note, the question isn't really any reflection on them, or how good they are/are not, but I was just thinking about it.

Thoughts?
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brucecuth
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  Message Not Read  RE: NLI question
   Posted: 2/8/2019 1:10:55 PM 
this might help...
http://www.nationalletter.org/frequentlyAskedQuestions/as...

As I understand it, an institution is not required to grant a release solely because of a coaching change. But in virtually all cases I know of under such circumstances, a release is generally granted. I seem to remember in one of our coaching transitions, releases were not granted until after the new coach was able to have some type of communication with the recruit in an attempt to convince him to stay. Once the coach was given the "no longer interested" message, recruits were released and free to sign elsewhere.


Since the recruit is, in theory anyway, committed to the institution and not the coach, the new staff has no authority to rescind an NLI. Obviously if there are grade or behavioral problems, that's another question.


Now, could the new coach sit down with the recruit and family and explain the facts of life to him so they could reach a MUTUAL understanding that it might be better for him to go elsewhere? Probably. I don't know of any rule that would prevent it. I also don't know of any case where that's happened.

Last Edited: 2/8/2019 1:21:37 PM by brucecuth

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  Message Not Read  RE: NLI question
   Posted: 2/8/2019 3:10:23 PM 
Thanks for the link and the feedback. One that I recall that fell under your example was Levert - I think. I recall JC saying at a Caravan stop he wouldn't release him until he was able to have a conversation with he and his parents.
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  Message Not Read  RE: NLI question
   Posted: 2/8/2019 8:48:54 PM 
OUC...the following, from Sports Illustrated, is very revealing even though it deals with football...

https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/02/05/uncommitta...
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  Message Not Read  RE: NLI question
   Posted: 2/11/2019 11:24:26 AM 
brucecuth wrote:
OUC...the following, from Sports Illustrated, is very revealing even though it deals with football...

https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/02/05/uncommitta...


I knew the issue was bad in P5 football, but that paints a picture that is worse than I realized.

Here's the thing I think I see: in hoops, once a verbal is received, it's generally honored. That's what I think I see most of the time anyway. I'm sure there are instances where a commit is persuaded to de-commit for one reason or another.
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  Message Not Read  RE: NLI question
   Posted: 2/17/2019 8:51:36 PM 
I would just go back through the threads when Caris LeVert left. Might give you some insight as to how the AD would handle it. Isn't basketball a bit different than football? If the coach is gone most Athletic Directors like to give the incoming coach a chance to rerecruit the athletes before they leave. We have had a number of those situations under the current administration. Should not be too hard to research the threads to figure out how Ohio U athletes are treated.
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