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Topic:  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer

Topic:  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 12:00:33 PM 
As happy as I am about the Chicago kid, this does nothing for me. Can't have Doug Taylor playing 27 minutes next year. That is not a recipe for success. Need another big with Carter who knows how to make at least one offensive move.

****Green offensively.....not good****

Per article found: Mickle, who still is green offensively, redshirted as a true freshman at Central Connecticut State and will be graduating next month. He's apparently going to take a step down from Division I in search of more playing time.

Last Edited: 4/22/2017 12:04:40 PM by FearLeon


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 2:45:25 PM 
Are we certain that he is receiving a scholarship?
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 3:54:34 PM 
Surprised that quite a few people are so down on this signing, although respectfully, I think some of your expectations for this last scholarship were a bit unrealistic. Mickle is exactly the kind of guy this roster needed. Not every player on the roster has to be a major offensive threat. With Carter and Taylor, along with the freshman bigs, our low-post offense should be fine. What the team really needed was a defensive cog in the paint. That's exactly what Mickle forecasts to be.

As Jeff mentioned, if we'd signed Mickle straight out of Juco ball last year with the stats he put up, people would have been very excited. No, he didn't play 30 minutes per game at FGSU, but FGSU was also an excellent, deep team last year. Their primary big, Demetris Morant, was a transfer from UNLV. Their other best returning forward, Marc-Eddy Norelia, was coming off a year in which he'd posted 17 and 10 per game during his junior season. Fellow back-up forward Antravious Simmons was a 6'9" VCU transfer in his third year in the FGSU program, and yet only played a couple minutes more per game than Mickle. This was an experienced, deep, and talented front court.

Neither Terren Harbut or Jon Smith lit the world up from an offensive perspective (both averaged under 10 points and 5 boards per game), yet both provided an invaluable post presence for two of our NCAA tournament teams. Neither of those teams would have made the dance without their often overlooked contributions. Whether Mickle can make a similar impact remains to be seen, of course, but good teams depend on guys like this. We're lucky to add a player like this at this juncture in the recruiting cycle.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 3:59:13 PM 
It's like we took Wadley's or Harley's final year of eligibility and gave it to a player with the same potential to get game minutes but is at least healthy enough to provide value to the team in practice.


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 4:05:25 PM 
Flomo-genized wrote:
Surprised that quite a few people are so down on this signing, although respectfully, I think some of your expectations for this last scholarship were a bit unrealistic. Mickle is exactly the kind of guy this roster needed. Not every player on the roster has to be a major offensive threat. With Carter and Taylor, along with the freshman bigs, our low-post offense should be fine. What the team really needed was a defensive cog in the paint. That's exactly what Mickle forecasts to be.

As Jeff mentioned, if we'd signed Mickle straight out of Juco ball last year with the stats he put up, people would have been very excited. No, he didn't play 30 minutes per game at FGSU, but FGSU was also an excellent, deep team last year. Their primary big, Demetris Morant, was a transfer from UNLV. Their other best returning forward, Marc-Eddy Norelia, was coming off a year in which he'd posted 17 and 10 per game during his junior season. Fellow back-up forward Antravious Simmons was a 6'9" VCU transfer in his third year in the FGSU program, and yet only played a couple minutes more per game than Mickle. This was an experienced, deep, and talented front court.

Neither Terren Harbut or Jon Smith lit the world up from an offensive perspective (both averaged under 10 points and 5 boards per game), yet both provided an invaluable post presence for two of our NCAA tournament teams. Neither of those teams would have made the dance without their often overlooked contributions. Whether Mickle can make a similar impact remains to be seen, of course, but good teams depend on guys like this. We're lucky to add a player like this at this juncture in the recruiting cycle.


+1

Consider the Kent game in Cleveland. If Kevin Mickle would have been able to spell the bigs and if he stopped just one Hall basket, grabbed one rebound that wasn't grabbed and his main contribution just keeping Carter on the floor at the end of the game, who knows how the final 10 seconds play out?!?

In close games the saying goes that it is the miNUTE particulars that are often the difference.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 4:15:07 PM 
I spoke with a friend who both knows a ton of basketball and knows Mickle. Says we got a good player and an even better kid. Didn't get a ton of burn at FGCU but not because he didn't earn more.

Take it for what it is worth, but I trust this person a ton more than those glancing at a stat sheet and deciding if he is a good or bad get. Based on what I heard he will play. May not be Tony, Jerome, Leon or BHunt but should help the team win.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 4:30:45 PM 
Flomo-genized wrote:
Surprised that quite a few people are so down on this signing, although respectfully, I think some of your expectations for this last scholarship were a bit unrealistic. Mickle is exactly the kind of guy this roster needed. Not every player on the roster has to be a major offensive threat. With Carter and Taylor, along with the freshman bigs, our low-post offense should be fine. What the team really needed was a defensive cog in the paint. That's exactly what Mickle forecasts to be.

As Jeff mentioned, if we'd signed Mickle straight out of Juco ball last year with the stats he put up, people would have been very excited. No, he didn't play 30 minutes per game at FGSU, but FGSU was also an excellent, deep team last year. Their primary big, Demetris Morant, was a transfer from UNLV. Their other best returning forward, Marc-Eddy Norelia, was coming off a year in which he'd posted 17 and 10 per game during his junior season. Fellow back-up forward Antravious Simmons was a 6'9" VCU transfer in his third year in the FGSU program, and yet only played a couple minutes more per game than Mickle. This was an experienced, deep, and talented front court.

Neither Terren Harbut or Jon Smith lit the world up from an offensive perspective (both averaged under 10 points and 5 boards per game), yet both provided an invaluable post presence for two of our NCAA tournament teams. Neither of those teams would have made the dance without their often overlooked contributions. Whether Mickle can make a similar impact remains to be seen, of course, but good teams depend on guys like this. We're lucky to add a player like this at this juncture in the recruiting cycle.


We won't know anything unless/until Kevin Mickle laces up his sneaks, but your assessment was well researched, well thought out and very well stated, Flomo-genized. Bringing up Harbut and Smith, who were around the same height as Mickle, really helps to state your case. My agreement with you primarily is based upon the coaches electing to give Mickle the scholarship when there are still a lot of guys out there who could potentially fit the bill. This was the type of grad transfer I suspected they would go after in one of my earlier posts. And don't underestimate the effect a Brooklyn-style aggressive, physical player can have in regard to ratcheting up the intensity level of the entire team.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 4:51:13 PM 
finnOhio wrote:
Are we certain that he is receiving a scholarship?


This is sort of where I was going with this:


OU_Country wrote:
I see this as something else that is potentially worthy of consideration: Mickle signs, only after Tony's appeal is officially denied. It's possible, right?


Maybe he's committed, and they're holding out that fraction of hope for Tony. It's wishful thinking, I know, but maybe.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 4:53:48 PM 
FearLeon wrote:
As happy as I am about the Chicago kid, this does nothing for me. Can't have Doug Taylor playing 27 minutes next year. That is not a recipe for success. Need another big with Carter who knows how to make at least one offensive move.

****Green offensively.....not good****

Per article found: Mickle, who still is green offensively, redshirted as a true freshman at Central Connecticut State and will be graduating next month. He's apparently going to take a step down from Division I in search of more playing time.


Mind sharing the article about Mickle, which seems to be from a couple years ago?

I'm not saying it's going to happen, because I'm not a scout, and I don't possess a time machine or a crystal ball, but if Taylor and Mickle step up and give more than you're giving them credit for, are prepared to eat crow?
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 5:32:51 PM 
Tim Ford wrote:
I spoke with a friend who both knows a ton of basketball and knows Mickle. Says we got a good player and an even better kid. Didn't get a ton of burn at FGCU but not because he didn't earn more.

Take it for what it is worth, but I trust this person a ton more than those glancing at a stat sheet and deciding if he is a good or bad get. Based on what I heard he will play. May not be Tony, Jerome, Leon or BHunt but should help the team win.


He got a lot of tick or burn. I think he can give us some minutes. He is not the force on defense that we all wanted and we should not expect for him to score a lot of points. This is a one year deal and we will be able to get another player in 2018. That being said, the coaches did not have to fight for this one, this is a South Dakota type of recruit. The coaches will need to step up. The MAC always has a few players with NBA ability. For us to take a mid major that we beat 12th man will not get it done. We can all say we have contacts that know the kid and say that his character is great, in the end, we have to do better. Whoevever said that numbers don't lie would have about 20 opponents on this thread alone. Some of us have that little kid spirit, where we lie about our dad (My daddy can beat up anybody in the world) because we love him, we need to grow out of that.


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 5:35:18 PM 
J/C

Obviously nothing is a sure thing and we won't know the true value of this signing until well into next season - but this is a FANTASTIC signing. I'm not sure what planet some of you are on with your assessments.

Look, Tony's not coming back. It's quite likely Jaaron is gone too. This team next year - yeah I'm not high on their potential. HOWEVER, we had exactly 1 post player on the roster. Doug Taylor.

Carter is a PF who was forced to play out of position last year - and while he more than proved his worth on the offensive side of the ball - he got literally abused on defense. He was forced to either let the other team get into the lane at ease/rebound at will - or foul out trying to stop them.

Dozier - couldn't even see the floor when we had nobody else to put in. Enough said.

The two incoming freshmen - Gareri is a stretch 4. Vander Plas is a hybrid 3/4. Neither will be post players unless forced to play out of position just like Carter.

What that means is - Doug Taylor is our starting center next year. Some of you (me included) are okay with that. Some of you shudder at the thought. He'll be a junior. Those of us okay with the idea realize his potential on the glass and on defense. He needs to improve offensively to be at least serviceable with one or two go-to post moves. But if he can be a big body inside that isn't a black hole on offense - he's a net positive IMO. That does mean I hope he makes some big strides this off-season.

That being said you can't go into a season with ONE center. Even if Taylor improves leaps and bounds he can't play 40 minutes. Let alone foul trouble. We HAD to get a backup big.

I could care less about offense. We don't need offense. What we need is somebody who is athletic around the rim. Somebody who can step up and take a charge. Somebody who is athletic enough to hedge and recover on ball screens to minimize dribble penetration. Somebody who can block a couple shots on slashers to protect the rim and make them think twice about crashing to the hoop. Somebody who can body up other low post players on defense without reaching and fouling. Somebody who can box out and get big rebounds.

To me - Kevin Mickle sounds like EXACTLY that guy. If Taylor doesn't improve maybe Mickle starts, but my guess is he's a 15-20 minute a night guy who backs up Doug and is a smart, tough, physical defensive presence. EXACTLY what this team needed. I think the Jon Smith and Tarren Harbut comparisons fit nicely.

Again, nobody knows anything for sure at this point. But I absolutely love this get.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 6:06:14 PM 
allen wrote:
He is not the force on defense that we all wanted


What makes you say that? Everything I've read says quite the opposite. That he was the best post defender on FGCU last year - a team that was deep, athletic and made the NCAA tournament with a shot to knock off Florida St.


"Dooley said playing time was not part of the discussion.

But it was with Mickle, a strong 6-7, 220-pounder who was perhaps FGCU's strongest frontcourt defender. Mickle, who still is green offensively, redshirted as a true freshman at Central Connecticut State and will be graduating next month."

http://www.naplesnews.com/story/sports/college/fgcu/2017/... /

allen wrote:
and we should not expect for him to score a lot of points. This is a one year deal and we will be able to get another player in 2018.


Agreed. But we don't need scoring. We need more athleticism, more defense, more rebounding, more toughness. And you're right - since this is a 1-year stop gap it means Saul can continue to recruit for 2018 just as he normally would have.

allen wrote:
For us to take a mid major that we beat 12th man will not get it done.


You can't be serious. First - he wasn't their "12th man". He was 8th on the team in games played (32 of 34) and 9th in minutes per game (12.6). So he was solidly in the rotation every game in a reserve role. Not at all the last guy on the bench. He was basically their version of Doug Taylor for us last year.

And don't confuse the fact that we beat FGCU as them being some weak mid-major who is beneath us. They won 26 games last year (psst...that's more than us). They made the NCAA tourney last year (pssst....we didn't). Their RPI was 88 (psst...ours was 117). The ASun has more tournament wins and tournament invites over the last 15 years than the MAC. The year prior (2015-16 - where Mickle also played in 31 games at 10.4 mpg) FGCU won 21 games to our 23 (though 2 of our wins were in the CBI) whereas they went to the NCAA tournament (pssst...we didn't).

FGCU has been a deeper and better team than us for a few years now.

allen wrote:
We can all say we have contacts that know the kid and say that his character is great, in the end, we have to do better. Whoever said that numbers don't lie would have about 20 opponents on this thread alone. Some of us have that little kid spirit, where we lie about our dad (My daddy can beat up anybody in the world) because we love him, we need to grow out of that.


Huh? I mean sure, there are the usual homers on here who every off-season think every player we signed is going to be MAC all-freshman, that we're going to play 12 deep and SURELY we're the pick to win the MAC.

But that's not most of us - and surely not me. Again, I think there's a possibility we take a big step back next year. I'm not bullish on this team at ALL. But, that doesn't mean you have to poo poo everything either. This (IMO) is a great get. We'll have to wait and see it play out to see who's right.

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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 7:00:08 PM 
Gotta agree with Graf. I am literally flummoxed w/ the anti-Mickle comments. Who were you people expecting Coach Phillips to get at this point, the second coming of Patrick Ewing?? Geez.

Here's a suggestion. Why don't we let Coach Phillips do his job? The guy clearly seems to know what he's doing. Maybe this get works out, maybe he doesn't. But Phillips knows his locker room A LOT better than any of us could ever hope to, and by all accounts Mickle was a good "glue" guy.

Like I said, I have no clue if this was a good pickup (at first blush it seems to be) but I'm sure not going to go on here and say I'm less than impressed.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 7:46:06 PM 
Chicken George wrote:



This says it all for me, "He should challenge Dozier for PT." If that's the case, we should've left it open. I gather we had nobody else up our sleeves? A bit surprised we weren't better prepared for Wadley, Culver and/or Khari leaving and left scrambling for what appears at best, a reach. George Reid?


So you are quoting another poster and using it as your source for how you feel about a player we signed?

The fact is that nobody on here knows a damn thing about this kid and how he'll fit in. And nobody on this board knows a damn thing about what Saul is planning. We don't know if he has his sights set on a player in the 2018 class for this scholarship. We don't know how he fit into what FGCU did last year. Not every effective player is a stat sheet stuffer. But at least this kid gives us a chance to put out armchair scouting degrees to good use. For my part, I know that in all zero times I saw him play I was impressed. Although, I know some of you would have signed a couple of five star prospects in his spot if it weren't for our darned policy of not going after the one-and-dones.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 9:14:39 PM 
OUVan wrote:
Chicken George wrote:



This says it all for me, "He should challenge Dozier for PT." If that's the case, we should've left it open. I gather we had nobody else up our sleeves? A bit surprised we weren't better prepared for Wadley, Culver and/or Khari leaving and left scrambling for what appears at best, a reach. George Reid?


So you are quoting another poster and using it as your source for how you feel about a player we signed?

The fact is that nobody on here knows a damn thing about this kid and how he'll fit in. And nobody on this board knows a damn thing about what Saul is planning. We don't know if he has his sights set on a player in the 2018 class for this scholarship. We don't know how he fit into what FGCU did last year. Not every effective player is a stat sheet stuffer. But at least this kid gives us a chance to put out armchair scouting degrees to good use. For my part, I know that in all zero times I saw him play I was impressed. Although, I know some of you would have signed a couple of five star prospects in his spot if it weren't for our darned policy of not going after the one-and-dones.

Fired up post. The truth is that we recruited underwhelming recruit. We have tried to dress it up with the Brooklyn playgrounds, the he must have wide shoulders, the he was the best post defender. He is the redshirt senior up and comer. We have one more play, we can say that he has long arms like the Greek Freak. The insults don't sting because in reality we are all scratching our heads. First, he is undersized and second he played on the same level as us and put up end of the bench numbers. We should have kept Wadley, he is taller, blocks more shots and gets more rebounds. I will except the moral victory for the young mans sake. I hope he succeeds, but keep your loyalty haymakers to yourself.


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 9:29:27 PM 
First of all, holy shit - a Flomo-Genized sighting!

Secondly, I'll eat crow if Mickle is useful, but this does seems more likely to be Chandler Thomas than Terren Harbut. No, I wasn't expecting Patrick Ewing, but maybe Mark Donnal or the big from William & Mary.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 10:30:01 PM 
I love it

I love the fact that it brought Tim Ford and most of Flomo out of the woodwork, my day would be complete if I read a quote from Slimmy before it is over.

I love what I hear about this kid. A one year that balances the classes and keeps us from committing and tying up a scholly while we get back on the trail

I love that he has been in the Convo and wants to be here.

I love that he fills a spot we need filled and has some skills....and some bounce and some speed and can guard any spot on the floor. I have parents and recruits all the time asking why they are " being played out of position". I tell them everybody loves a utility guy. This one sounds like he can be of service all over the court.

I like Devo...I would be very happy with a similar body.

I forgot what FGCU listed him at when I looked a couple of days ago but he is not on the roster today. From what I have seen on tapes and video he looks like a true 6'7 http://www.fgcuathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=3948&path=...

Thanks Tim and Flomo for poking your nose in here


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/22/2017 11:06:10 PM 
Played 15 minutes and had four boards in a close 86 to 80 loss to Florida State in NCAA Tourney. Saying you would rather have Wadley is insane. And stop saying Donnal or William and Mary big. They are going bigger.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/23/2017 1:06:23 AM 
OU_Country wrote:
FearLeon wrote:
As happy as I am about the Chicago kid, this does nothing for me. Can't have Doug Taylor playing 27 minutes next year. That is not a recipe for success. Need another big with Carter who knows how to make at least one offensive move.

****Green offensively.....not good****

Per article found: Mickle, who still is green offensively, redshirted as a true freshman at Central Connecticut State and will be graduating next month. He's apparently going to take a step down from Division I in search of more playing time.


Mind sharing the article about Mickle, which seems to be from a couple years ago?

I'm not saying it's going to happen, because I'm not a scout, and I don't possess a time machine or a crystal ball, but if Taylor and Mickle step up and give more than you're giving them credit for, are prepared to eat crow?


Sure..article was from 2 days ago: http://www.naplesnews.com/story/sports/college/fgcu/2017/... /

And yes...I will always come back here and say when and if I'm wrong. We can't have another swing and miss with a graduate transfer.


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/23/2017 9:37:07 AM 
Agree they need to have him be able to be a real contributor.

I'm not sure how much credence I put in the writer on this. There's an awful lot of "rising" when describing the guys that are coming to the program, but not with guys that are leaving. Might be a little too much bias in this guy's writing.

I'd sure like to know more about him from an additional source.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/23/2017 10:37:12 AM 
Bobcat1998 wrote:
Played 15 minutes and had four boards in a close 86 to 80 loss to Florida State in NCAA Tourney. Saying you would rather have Wadley is insane. And stop saying Donnal or William and Mary big. They are going bigger.


This is the most important stat I've read so far. I don't try and argue about recruits because I do not try and pretend to be an expert. However, this tells me he had a role on a tournament team and we need someone (if not two players) in the paint to eat up minutes to keep Carter out of foul trouble.
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   Posted: 4/23/2017 10:56:17 AM 
OU_Country wrote:
Agree they need to have him be able to be a real contributor.

I'm not sure how much credence I put in the writer on this. There's an awful lot of "rising" when describing the guys that are coming to the program, but not with guys that are leaving. Might be a little too much bias in this guy's writing.

I'd sure like to know more about him from an additional source.


I read the term "rising" differently than most of you. I thought the writer used it as someone who is between classes. As in a rising junior would have completed his sophomore season but not started his junior season.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/23/2017 11:00:45 AM 
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Reminds me of Chandler Thomas signing, which didnt make any sense either, and that was proven on the floor (or not, since he couldnt get on the floor).


Chandler Thomas came from Grambling where he averaged 3 ppg and had 2 rpg in a lower conference. And to say this is an Ellis Dozier clone is rediculous. Mickle averaged a double double in JUCO and started 5 games and averaged 12 mins a game for an NCAA team that won 26 games.

If you think we are getting Power 5 grad transfers you are nuts. We may get Power 5 undergrad but grad guys from Michigan are not coming here. And grad transfers who leave mid majors like the Howard guard or Alstork are moving up to Power 5.


Toledo is getting power 5 tranfers. Btw, Ellis Dozier was a three star recruit that averaged a double, double at Sheridan and 11 and 7 at his prep school . https://future150.com/hs/basketball-profiles/ellis-dozier...
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/...


Thank you for mentioning Toledo. Because they have had so much success with Kowalczyk that we should say they are getting quality power 5 transfers. (Insert sarcastic laugh)
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/23/2017 2:50:34 PM 
Can someone show me all five of these transfers? I'm curious. I can see a couple, but not five.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2017 6'7" PF Kevin Mickle (Brooklyn, NY - Florida Gulf Coast) - Ohio Transfer
   Posted: 4/23/2017 4:13:25 PM 
Bobcat1998 wrote:
allen wrote:
Bobcat1998 wrote:
ohio9704 wrote:
Reminds me of Chandler Thomas signing, which didnt make any sense either, and that was proven on the floor (or not, since he couldnt get on the floor).


Chandler Thomas came from Grambling where he averaged 3 ppg and had 2 rpg in a lower conference. And to say this is an Ellis Dozier clone is rediculous. Mickle averaged a double double in JUCO and started 5 games and averaged 12 mins a game for an NCAA team that won 26 games.

If you think we are getting Power 5 grad transfers you are nuts. We may get Power 5 undergrad but grad guys from Michigan are not coming here. And grad transfers who leave mid majors like the Howard guard or Alstork are moving up to Power 5.


Toledo is getting power 5 tranfers. Btw, Ellis Dozier was a three star recruit that averaged a double, double at Sheridan and 11 and 7 at his prep school . https://future150.com/hs/basketball-profiles/ellis-dozier...
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/...


Thank you for mentioning Toledo. Because they have had so much success with Kowalczyk that we should say they are getting quality power 5 transfers. (Insert sarcastic laugh)


Even with beer goggles, this looks questionable. I hope the kid does well. I would have tried to recruit someone who could compete with Doug Taylor for minutes, not ED.


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