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Without that, I'm not confident that Jaaron will return. While you're pounding that drum, maybe you can help find the trees you think that kind of player grows on that Ohio will easily find a ready to go big (not named Tony Campbell) in April or May. Every single school with several scholarships to give is after that guy, and there aren't that many to sign that can be a do everything big. OUVan wrote: FlashGary wrote: Can't really tell from this video if Teyvion has a consistent outside shot. But it's readily apparent he can go! I'm excited about the prospect of two quick, athletic, long, get-to-the-rim 6-4 guards eventually teaming in the backcourt in Teyvion and Zach Butler. Love to see a PG that changes what he does when he penetrates. Lots of easy buckets for his bigs. Like that he looked comfortable with both hands in passing and scoring at the rim. Even if Jaaron stays this was an important get. Agree with you both here. I like the idea of these two together. We might be seeing a lot more of a 3-guard look in future years as a result of these two. Point well, taken, OU Van. But I contend the coaching staff has got to diligently try to get this done, and it may require some creativity. The best option may turn out to be a grad transfer from a major program who always as a reserve, but still has an upside. Meaning, a guy who could play a lot for us but would remain a quality bench player at his current school because they've always recruited over him. I think there are several grad transfers out there that would potentially be good fits. Do they want to come to Athens, or aspire for a "bigger" conference? I'd like to see them find this guys you want, and Saul wants. I'm just suggesting they don't grow on trees and aren't easy to find in the Spring (in my opinion). Especially if the intent is that they contribute big minutes right away. Sorry for calling you OU Van, OU Country! Seems to me that quite a few of the grad transfers who weren't starters at major programs drop down to a level where they either can start or get a lot of playing time for their final season of eligibility. Then there will be high schoolers who find themselves out of a scholarship for a variety of reasons. For instance, a player who had committed to a school decommits when the school gets a commitment from a higher-rated player who plays the same position. There will also be the James Thompson IV's out there. You investigate them thoroughly, but be ready to pounce! Last Edited: 4/20/2017 4:26:06 PM by FlashGary Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/20/2017 4:47:56 PM  FlashGary wrote: Sorry for calling you OU Van, OU Country! Seems to me that quite a few of the grad transfers who weren't starters at major programs drop down to a level where they either can start or get a lot of playing time for their final season of eligibility. Then there will be high schoolers who find themselves out of a scholarship for a variety of reasons. For instance, a player who had committed to a school decommits when the school gets a commitment from a higher-rated player who plays the same position. There will also be the James Thompson IV's out there. You investigate them thoroughly, but be ready to pounce! What makes you think our coaching staff isn't doing just that? Back to Top FlashGary General User Member Since: 6/18/2013 Location: Long Island, NY Post Count: 374 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/20/2017 5:58:04 PM  OUVan wrote: FlashGary wrote: Sorry for calling you OU Van, OU Country! Seems to me that quite a few of the grad transfers who weren't starters at major programs drop down to a level where they either can start or get a lot of playing time for their final season of eligibility. Then there will be high schoolers who find themselves out of a scholarship for a variety of reasons. For instance, a player who had committed to a school decommits when the school gets a commitment from a higher-rated player who plays the same position. There will also be the James Thompson IV's out there. You investigate them thoroughly, but be ready to pounce! What makes you think our coaching staff isn't doing just that? I believe they're doing all of these things to the max and I'm confident they'll find a player. I just was trying to encourage a poster who stated that what we need doesn't grow on trees for mid major programs. Granted. So you may have to shake a lot of trees to get that player to fall out! Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/20/2017 7:00:01 PM  The kid is smart, he was offered by Brown. He was also a top 300 recruit. http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/teyvion-kirk/uhqCybyeEeaA... Last Edited: 4/20/2017 7:02:41 PM by allen Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/20/2017 7:41:48 PM  FlashGary wrote: OUVan wrote: FlashGary wrote: Sorry for calling you OU Van, OU Country! Seems to me that quite a few of the grad transfers who weren't starters at major programs drop down to a level where they either can start or get a lot of playing time for their final season of eligibility. Then there will be high schoolers who find themselves out of a scholarship for a variety of reasons. For instance, a player who had committed to a school decommits when the school gets a commitment from a higher-rated player who plays the same position. There will also be the James Thompson IV's out there. You investigate them thoroughly, but be ready to pounce! What makes you think our coaching staff isn't doing just that? I believe they're doing all of these things to the max and I'm confident they'll find a player. I just was trying to encourage a poster who stated that what we need doesn't grow on trees for mid major programs. Granted. So you may have to shake a lot of trees to get that player to fall out! I like it. Shake those trees! Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,117 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/20/2017 8:35:43 PM  Bobcat1998 wrote: bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote: I can't wait to see Kirk and Butler playing side-by-side. Two 6'4 guys who can both handle the ball will be a matchup nightmare for other MAC teams. How about a Butler, Laster, Kirk, Vander Plas, Carter look? You've got 3 capable ballhandlers with Vander Plas and Carter being bigs who can step out. Could be a nice change of pace group when Darty and Simmons need rest. Yes, three true freshmen we know nothing about. Jeremy Fears was from Joliet, yes? Different high school though. Back to Top Bobcat1998 General User Member Since: 11/7/2012 Post Count: 2,232 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/20/2017 9:11:06 PM  I understand that we don't know anything about these freshmen yet truly but I do have Saul's track record thus far. He has given us back-to-back All-Freshman Team players, including one who was the top freshman at year's end. He has given us Block and Doug Taylor as solid role players. He has given us Jaaron and Kenny as transfers. That being said, if you watch Kirk on all the great film available, something that stands out is that he plays defense and that he has great handles. Those people comparing him to Culver or saying he's the "next Culver" are mistaken. Look up any old Culver film and you won't find anything truly about Culver as a player. I was shocked when I first saw his jerky shooting motion and his out of control handles. Kirk has plenty of game film showing his handles and his defense. Culver ended up not being a difference maker on defense. I also think Butler is that kind of player. He and Vander Plas are State Finalists with Butler winning it all. Gareri had a team like Ellet competing with the big boys. I would prefer a grad transfer big who can allow Gareri and Vander Plas time to develop but I am also jacked at the prospect of our new guys all contributing next year. Some on this board may say I don't say anything negative but that's because I believe this is the year we break through with SaulBall. Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,046 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/20/2017 9:53:17 PM  shabamon wrote: Bobcat1998 wrote: bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote: I can't wait to see Kirk and Butler playing side-by-side. Two 6'4 guys who can both handle the ball will be a matchup nightmare for other MAC teams. How about a Butler, Laster, Kirk, Vander Plas, Carter look? You've got 3 capable ballhandlers with Vander Plas and Carter being bigs who can step out. Could be a nice change of pace group when Darty and Simmons need rest. Yes, three true freshmen we know nothing about. Jeremy Fears was from Joliet, yes? Different high school though. This is Jeremy's nephew. Back to Top GraffZ06 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Dayton, OH Post Count: 1,911 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 12:08:25 AM  Jeff McKinney wrote: shabamon wrote: Yes, three true freshmen we know nothing about. Jeremy Fears was from Joliet, yes? Different high school though. This is Jeremy's nephew. Well that's interesting. So we apparently signed Jeremy Fears nephew to be Jaaron Simmons replacement. It all comes full circle. Hope he's a good get. Boy do we need a big. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 8:58:33 AM  Bobcat1998 wrote: Some on this board may say I don't say anything negative but that's because I believe this is the year we break through with SaulBall. Perhaps you should change your handle to "The Cousin of The Optimist", or something like that? Back to Top Bobcat1998 General User Member Since: 11/7/2012 Post Count: 2,232 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 9:37:43 AM  Cousin of the Optimist is too long..perhaps I can be The COTO? Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,821 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 12:13:58 PM  Jeff McKinney wrote: This is Jeremy's nephew. Is this suppose to make me do backflips? Not exactly a history of stability. But let's start with a clean slate. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 12:27:22 PM  cc-cat wrote: Jeff McKinney wrote: This is Jeremy's nephew. Is this suppose to make me do backflips? Not exactly a history of stability. But let's start with a clean slate. I would think given how Jeremy's transfer turned out that he would counsel his nephew to stay put. Teyvion obviously would have sought out Jeremy's opinion and the fact that he is coming here means he probably knows he made a mistake. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 12:33:58 PM  Speaking of Jeremy, it looks like he is doing well. From his Twitter it looks like he owns a couple of Soul Food Restaurants, has three boys and is coaching the Illinois Old School AAU program. This after playing in Europe for a few seasons. Good to see he's doing well. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,916 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 12:37:10 PM  OUVan wrote: cc-cat wrote: Jeff McKinney wrote: This is Jeremy's nephew. Is this suppose to make me do backflips? Not exactly a history of stability. But let's start with a clean slate. I would think given how Jeremy's transfer turned out that he would counsel his nephew to stay put. Teyvion obviously would have sought out Jeremy's opinion and the fact that he is coming here means he probably knows he made a mistake. I never really blamed him for leaving Ohio. He was obviously great for the program, it just didn't work out for whatever reason. Back to Top bobcatsquared General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 5,041 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 1:03:24 PM  Remind me, please. Where did Fears end up after leaving Ohio? Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 1:42:45 PM  OUVan wrote: Speaking of Jeremy, it looks like he is doing well. From his Twitter it looks like he owns a couple of Soul Food Restaurants, has three boys and is coaching the Illinois Old School AAU program. This after playing in Europe for a few seasons. Good to see he's doing well. +1 Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,046 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 3:31:50 PM  bobcatsquared wrote: Remind me, please. Where did Fears end up after leaving Ohio? At a good Div 2 school in South Carolina...USC-Aiken if I remember correctly. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 3:38:59 PM  Jeff McKinney wrote: bobcatsquared wrote: Remind me, please. Where did Fears end up after leaving Ohio? At a good Div 2 school in South Carolina...USC-Aiken if I remember correctly. I think that is correct. He transferred first to Bradley but never played there. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,552 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 3:45:49 PM  Before I even got to "Ohio Commit" in the thread title, I was thinking "hmm, wasn't J-Fears from Joliet?" Watching that highlight tape, his style reminds me a lot of Fears. Fears was 6-5 and not really a 3-point specialist. More all-around/slasher who was a great athlete and playmaker. Fears was also very tall for a PG at 6-5. That is exactly what I saw watching Kirk's highlight tape. It's hard to tell from a highlight tape, but it looks like he might be the best athlete on the roster. I don't buy into the hype about Jaaron leaving, but either way we needed a PG in this class to be ready for next year. This is a phenomenal grab. I strongly agree with 98 on this year being huge for Saul and OHIO. I don't see the need for a big-men that others do. Vander Plas and Gareri in this class are perfect fits for the style Saul wants to play. We've got a bunch of bigs who can shoot. This kid is the perfect PG for a roster like this. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top Ted Thompson Administrator Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: MAC Play Post Count: 7,399 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 4:08:09 PM  Joliet West standout guard Teyvion Kirk choose Ohio University Follow Ohio Football recruiting on the BobcatAttack.com football recruiting database. Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,821 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 5:24:26 PM  As I said, I'm willing to start with a clean slate. Certainly appears to have the skills. And great point that Fears directed him here for a reason. Yes Fears ended up at USC-upstate and played well. He was the guy that did backflips on the court right? Or am I thinking of someone else? Back to Top mcbin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 949 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 5:40:17 PM  cc-cat wrote: As I said, I'm willing to start with a clean slate. Certainly appears to have the skills. And great point that Fears directed him here for a reason. Yes Fears ended up at USC-upstate and played well. He was the guy that did backflips on the court right? Or am I thinking of someone else? ^I believe vs Detroit or Oakland I'm so excited about any player compared to Jeremy Fears. JF was one of the most talented guys we've had in our program, and maybe one of the biggest might-have-beens as well. Even had that Ohio rap song mentioning him.. Glad to hear he's doing well. And welcome Teyvion! Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,046 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 6:29:28 PM  Teyvion and Jeremy are not blood relatives, but were neighbors on the same street and became very close friends. They consider each other uncle and nephew. Jeremy was very involved in encouraging Kirk to choose Ohio. Really appreciates his time at Ohio. Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,306 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 PG Teyvion Kirk ohio commit    Posted: 4/21/2017 8:07:15 PM  mcbin wrote: cc-cat wrote: As I said, I'm willing to start with a clean slate. Certainly appears to have the skills. And great point that Fears directed him here for a reason. Yes Fears ended up at USC-upstate and played well. He was the guy that did backflips on the court right? Or am I thinking of someone else? ^I believe vs Detroit or Oakland I'm so excited about any player compared to Jeremy Fears. JF was one of the most talented guys we've had in our program, and maybe one of the biggest might-have-beens as well. Even had that Ohio rap song mentioning him.. Glad to hear he's doing well. And welcome Teyvion! 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