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Or his parent's interest in wanting him to stay local? Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/13/2015 12:17:07 PM  OUBobcat13 wrote: Anyone know his level of interest in staying in Athens? Or his parent's interest in wanting him to stay local? Troll Back to Top Danny's Knee General User Member Since: 11/30/2005 Post Count: 605 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/13/2015 6:04:31 PM  OUVan wrote: OUBobcat13 wrote: Anyone know his level of interest in staying in Athens? Or his parent's interest in wanting him to stay local? Troll Troll ? .. I think the real question is .... Can the kid play ? check out my avatar, it's "REALLY DO ORIGINAL" !!!! Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,706 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/16/2015 7:39:47 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: Quit trolling! You obviously won't be happy with anyone's answer. Buy Monroe's Bobcat Black Seats, stay an extra day and catch an AHS game and give Saul your opinion, I'm sure it would be appreciated. Pretty sure you, of all people, know that Bobcat Black seats are not present during Tourney. I do not see any other time they are in the Convo http://www.athensbulldogs.org/main/teamschedule/id/37488/... Might want to tell someone to update the Bulldog Blitz page also. Coaches are the same but roster has changed a bit Last Edited: 12/16/2015 7:44:15 AM by bornacatfan never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,478 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/16/2015 8:33:44 AM  bornacatfan wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Quit trolling! You obviously won't be happy with anyone's answer. Buy Monroe's Bobcat Black Seats, stay an extra day and catch an AHS game and give Saul your opinion, I'm sure it would be appreciated. Pretty sure you, of all people, know that Bobcat Black seats are not present during Tourney. I do not see any other time they are in the Convo http://www.athensbulldogs.org/main/teamschedule/id/37488/... Might want to tell someone to update the Bulldog Blitz page also. Coaches are the same but roster has changed a bit Athens does not play at the convo, maybe you need some reading comprehension. The statement is; "Buy Monroe's Bobcat Black Seats (for the OHIO game), stay an extra day and catch an AHS game (meaning where they play locally). Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/16/2015 10:40:16 AM  Has anyone seen Lutz play recently so they can talk about his skills as a PG, and viability as an Ohio Student athlete? (I know, I'm a troll - no need to waste a post calling me out) Back to Top . General User Member Since: 2/3/2005 Post Count: 2,949 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/16/2015 1:01:58 PM  You guys are asking the wrong questions. Let a professional go to work here. (Ahem) Is basketball a game he can play? Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,698 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/16/2015 1:27:02 PM  Hopefully we can find someone who is closely plugged in to the Athens High athletics scene to offer up some details that we all so desperately want but have not yet received. You'd think there would be at least one person like that around here somewhere. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,023 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/17/2015 1:40:45 PM  I saw the kid play as a freshman and as a sophomore and at the OU summer team camp on a team loaded with D 1 football talent. The kid is deceptively quick and smooth and is a quick jumper. His left hand is as good as his right when it comes to ball handling. He's the best kid to come out of Athens (assuming he graduates from Athens) since Steve Bruning who also played for OU. Although a very good player, Steve was not as fundamentally sound as this kid and unfortunately never became what so many had hoped for during his time at OU. A nagging back injury kept him from realizing his full potential. I could go back in the old track scorebooks and check but Steve was a 6'5 or 6'6 high jumper too. Lutz would be a very nice addition to the OU squad. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/17/2015 2:12:59 PM  Alan Swank wrote: I saw the kid play as a freshman and as a sophomore and at the OU summer team camp on a team loaded with D 1 football talent. The kid is deceptively quick and smooth and is a quick jumper. His left hand is as good as his right when it comes to ball handling. He's the best kid to come out of Athens (assuming he graduates from Athens) since Steve Bruning who also played for OU. Although a very good player, Steve was not as fundamentally sound as this kid and unfortunately never became what so many had hoped for during his time at OU. A nagging back injury kept him from realizing his full potential. I could go back in the old track scorebooks and check but Steve was a 6'5 or 6'6 high jumper too. Lutz would be a very nice addition to the OU squad. My roommates worked radio/tv for WOUB back when Steve was at Athens and I'd tag along to see the games. He was every bit of 6'5". He was a lot of fun to watch. Shame about his back because I was sure he would have made an impact at Ohio. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/17/2015 3:13:33 PM  I'm curious Alan - a lot of good was said about Ibi Watson prior to their moving to Pickerington. They are obviously different types of players, but how would you compare Lutz to Watson? Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,023 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/17/2015 4:31:38 PM  OUVan wrote: Alan Swank wrote: I saw the kid play as a freshman and as a sophomore and at the OU summer team camp on a team loaded with D 1 football talent. The kid is deceptively quick and smooth and is a quick jumper. His left hand is as good as his right when it comes to ball handling. He's the best kid to come out of Athens (assuming he graduates from Athens) since Steve Bruning who also played for OU. Although a very good player, Steve was not as fundamentally sound as this kid and unfortunately never became what so many had hoped for during his time at OU. A nagging back injury kept him from realizing his full potential. I could go back in the old track scorebooks and check but Steve was a 6'5 or 6'6 high jumper too. Lutz would be a very nice addition to the OU squad. My roommates worked radio/tv for WOUB back when Steve was at Athens and I'd tag along to see the games. He was every bit of 6'5". He was a lot of fun to watch. Shame about his back because I was sure he would have made an impact at Ohio. Sorry for the confusion - I meant he could high jump 6'5 or 6'6. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,023 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/17/2015 4:33:41 PM  OU_Country wrote: I'm curious Alan - a lot of good was said about Ibi Watson prior to their moving to Pickerington. They are obviously different types of players, but how would you compare Lutz to Watson? To be fair I didn't see Ibi enough to compare plus I'm old school and a bit jaded when it comes to players transferring schools like he did. Back to Top jumper80 General User Member Since: 5/11/2006 Post Count: 123 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/17/2015 5:32:37 PM  Played with Steve ....6'5" Could put the ball in the basket :) Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/18/2015 12:02:07 PM  Alan Swank wrote: Sorry for the confusion - I meant he could high jump 6'5 or 6'6. DOH, my bad. Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,706 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/19/2015 1:29:45 PM  Alan Swank wrote: To be fair I didn't see Ibi enough to compare plus I'm old school and a bit jaded when it comes to players transferring schools like he did. We have been fighting that in Indiana since Everett Case was fired at Frankfort for moving parents into his district.....good thing NC State found a job for him 726-75 as a HS coach and went on to become the Father of ACC Basketball. Too bad we can't find someone who is in the building on a daily basis and in the gym around practice that may give us some insight. I am sure if Athens plays Alexander I can get a report. Have to look at the schedule. never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top Antonio Pierce General User Member Since: 10/13/2012 Post Count: 243 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/19/2015 3:30:32 PM  Lutz scored 37 last night. He averages 33 per game. Don't let one day define the rest of your life. Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,706 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/20/2015 1:36:58 PM  vs Watterson no less. I should be able to get some good input vs Alexander early Jan. Is he a true 6 foot? Plays the 1 2 or 3 spot? Penetrator or shooter? Good off the dribble or set up shooter? Good handles? Good court vision? Make his teamies better or gets his own? Assists to go along with scoring? Defend well? Lateral speed and quickness? Willing to defer when doubled? Crafty rebounder? BBIQ? All questions I look to ask when I see a kid. Maybe Wanny will make a rare guest appearance since he retired the nom de plume....or use his current one..... never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,478 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/20/2015 2:20:23 PM  The 37 was not against Watterson, That was from Friday night. Local paper has him at 33.8ppg, 12rpg, 6apg. One would think with all they lost last year that he has to be the primary scorer. As for the other qualities, I'll defer to someone who has more knowledge, I just base my original comments to the beginning of this thread from the reports of recurit net by several schools at this stage of the game. You'd think some local basketball fans would be able to help you out here though. Back to Top mcbin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 949 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/23/2015 11:08:32 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: You'd think some local basketball fans would be able to help you out here though. This is getting comical Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,023 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 12/24/2015 12:12:58 PM  While doing some last minute Christmas shoppiing uptown, I just talked to with one of the longest tenured coaches in SE Ohio about Lutz. Direct quote - "he can definitely play for OU." Remember too that he's just a junior. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 1/4/2016 11:44:06 AM  Alan Swank wrote: OU_Country wrote: I'm curious Alan - a lot of good was said about Ibi Watson prior to their moving to Pickerington. They are obviously different types of players, but how would you compare Lutz to Watson? To be fair I didn't see Ibi enough to compare plus I'm old school and a bit jaded when it comes to players transferring schools like he did. Amen, Bro! I still remember when Portsmouth's top-ranked football team had to forfeit all of their games back in the 1960s because it was discovered that their star player's father had been given a job at a local business by a booster. Previously, this kid had played for another team in a nearby district. Today this kind of stuff can be done and no one even investigates to discover if there has been a quid pro quo or not. And, I'd bet real money that in some cases these transfers stink to high heaven. But, nobody cares since most Ohio schools now have open enrollment for anyone from anywhere. I had thought, until recently, that state law required open enrollment; however, it does not. My wife's hometown of Bexley does not allow any students to transfer in from other districts. One must live in Bexley to go to school there. Wish more schools would do this. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,478 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 1/4/2016 12:37:07 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Alan Swank wrote: OU_Country wrote: I'm curious Alan - a lot of good was said about Ibi Watson prior to their moving to Pickerington. They are obviously different types of players, but how would you compare Lutz to Watson? To be fair I didn't see Ibi enough to compare plus I'm old school and a bit jaded when it comes to players transferring schools like he did. Amen, Bro! I still remember when Portsmouth's top-ranked football team had to forfeit all of their games back in the 1960s because it was discovered that their star player's father had been given a job at a local business by a booster. Previously, this kid had played for another team in a nearby district. Today this kind of stuff can be done and no one even investigates to discover if there has been a quid pro quo or not. And, I'd bet real money that in some cases these transfers stink to high heaven. But, nobody cares since most Ohio schools now have open enrollment for anyone from anywhere. I had thought, until recently, that state law required open enrollment; however, it does not. My wife's hometown of Bexley does not allow any students to transfer in from other districts. One must live in Bexley to go to school there. Wish more schools would do this. I think your memory may be failing you. #1, Portsmouth did not thrive in football in the 60's (so they never had a top ranked team) as they were in the old GOL and continually got their heads handed to them, basketball was there thing, and in fact PHS had a losing record in the GOL in basketball as well. And PHS has not forfeited an entire season of wins. Now, the 1950's PHS had a few strong football teams, and a few in the mid 70's after they got away from the GOL, led by OSU player Norm Burrows. Last Edited: 1/4/2016 2:17:16 PM by BillyTheCat Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,478 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 1/4/2016 1:26:56 PM  Alan Swank wrote: While doing some last minute Christmas shoppiing uptown, I just talked to with one of the longest tenured coaches in SE Ohio about Lutz. Direct quote - "he can definitely play for OU." Remember too that he's just a junior. So, let me ask, were you a fan that he was at Athens at all? Didn't he move into Athens from Marietta? Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest    Posted: 1/4/2016 3:23:52 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: [QUOTE=OhioCatFan] . . . Now, the 1950's PHS had a few strong football teams, and a few in the mid 70's after they got away from the GOL, led by OSU player Norm Burrows. OK, it may have been in the late '50s rather than the early '60s. Whenever, it did happen, and it was quite a scandal at the time. If I have the time I'll search an online newspaper database I have access to and find the exact date. My point remains that we have vastly different standards today on this sort of thing, and like Alan, I don't think it's an improvement. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. 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