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Topic:  AP Article on Appalachia (SEO in particular)
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The Optimist
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  Message Not Read  AP Article on Appalachia (SEO in particular)
   Posted: 10/2/2020 10:50:11 PM 
Saw that Arkley commented on this article on Twitter the other day.

As Arkley stated on Twitter like many other of these coastal journalist's exposÚs on Middle America, I take issue with the general doomsday portrayal without ANY positives.

Additionally, these articles tend to lead readers to believe the populace is entirely uneducated without bothering to speak with any successful or educated people in the region. While SEO has it's problems, it is a beautiful area that a lot of people who have never visited would be blown away by.

With that said, I do think this article highlighted the general feelings of government mistrust of the people well. While there are certainly race issues in Appalachia, it frustrates me greatly that people who are voting primarily on the issue of their own economic hardship are painted by the media as hateful people. The lifestyle of poor white people stuck in poverty in Appalachia would likely have a lot more in common with poor black people in urban areas than articles like this would ever lead you to believe. As the man in this article said, "we learned to live on just a little" which is very valuable.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnic...


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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: AP Article on Appalachia (SEO in particular)
   Posted: 10/3/2020 12:39:02 AM 
The Optimist wrote:
Saw that Arkley commented on this article on Twitter the other day.

As Arkley stated on Twitter like many other of these coastal journalist's exposÚs on Middle America, I take issue with the general doomsday portrayal without ANY positives.

Additionally, these articles tend to lead readers to believe the populace is entirely uneducated without bothering to speak with any successful or educated people in the region. While SEO has it's problems, it is a beautiful area that a lot of people who have never visited would be blown away by.

With that said, I do think this article highlighted the general feelings of government mistrust of the people well. While there are certainly race issues in Appalachia, it frustrates me greatly that people who are voting primarily on the issue of their own economic hardship are painted by the media as hateful people. The lifestyle of poor white people stuck in poverty in Appalachia would likely have a lot more in common with poor black people in urban areas than articles like this would ever lead you to believe. As the man in this article said, "we learned to live on just a little" which is very valuable.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnic...


Compared to the rest of OHIO, SE Ohio is under educated, under employed, under skilled and over addicted. So your point?
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  Message Not Read  RE: AP Article on Appalachia (SEO in particular)
   Posted: 10/3/2020 1:19:48 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
Saw that Arkley commented on this article on Twitter the other day.

As Arkley stated on Twitter like many other of these coastal journalist's exposÚs on Middle America, I take issue with the general doomsday portrayal without ANY positives.

Additionally, these articles tend to lead readers to believe the populace is entirely uneducated without bothering to speak with any successful or educated people in the region. While SEO has it's problems, it is a beautiful area that a lot of people who have never visited would be blown away by.

With that said, I do think this article highlighted the general feelings of government mistrust of the people well. While there are certainly race issues in Appalachia, it frustrates me greatly that people who are voting primarily on the issue of their own economic hardship are painted by the media as hateful people. The lifestyle of poor white people stuck in poverty in Appalachia would likely have a lot more in common with poor black people in urban areas than articles like this would ever lead you to believe. As the man in this article said, "we learned to live on just a little" which is very valuable.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnic...


Compared to the rest of OHIO, SE Ohio is under educated, under employed, under skilled and over addicted. So your point?

My point is that low-IQ individuals such as yourself over-generalize regions because they lack the critical thinking skills to understand the essence of what is actually happening.


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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: AP Article on Appalachia (SEO in particular)
   Posted: 10/3/2020 7:06:37 AM 
The Optimist wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
Saw that Arkley commented on this article on Twitter the other day.

As Arkley stated on Twitter like many other of these coastal journalist's exposÚs on Middle America, I take issue with the general doomsday portrayal without ANY positives.

Additionally, these articles tend to lead readers to believe the populace is entirely uneducated without bothering to speak with any successful or educated people in the region. While SEO has it's problems, it is a beautiful area that a lot of people who have never visited would be blown away by.

With that said, I do think this article highlighted the general feelings of government mistrust of the people well. While there are certainly race issues in Appalachia, it frustrates me greatly that people who are voting primarily on the issue of their own economic hardship are painted by the media as hateful people. The lifestyle of poor white people stuck in poverty in Appalachia would likely have a lot more in common with poor black people in urban areas than articles like this would ever lead you to believe. As the man in this article said, "we learned to live on just a little" which is very valuable.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnic...


Compared to the rest of OHIO, SE Ohio is under educated, under employed, under skilled and over addicted. So your point?

My point is that low-IQ individuals such as yourself over-generalize regions because they lack the critical thinking skills to understand the essence of what is actually happening.


And people like you resort to calling names. Fact is, the statistics and the measurable say that SE Ohio is under educated and under employed. Sorry that facts are something you struggle with.
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  Message Not Read  RE: AP Article on Appalachia (SEO in particular)
   Posted: 10/3/2020 8:00:07 AM 
The Optimist wrote:
....it frustrates me greatly that people who are voting primarily on the issue of their own economic hardship are painted by the media as hateful people. The lifestyle of poor white people stuck in poverty in Appalachia would likely have a lot more in common with poor black people in urban areas than articles like this would ever lead you to believe. As the man in this article said, "we learned to live on just a little" which is very valuable.


Do people still believe voting R is in the self interest of low income individuals? Thats hard to believe since every action they take favors everyone who is the opposite of low income.
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  Message Not Read  RE: AP Article on Appalachia (SEO in particular)
   Posted: 10/3/2020 10:53:58 AM 
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
....it frustrates me greatly that people who are voting primarily on the issue of their own economic hardship are painted by the media as hateful people. The lifestyle of poor white people stuck in poverty in Appalachia would likely have a lot more in common with poor black people in urban areas than articles like this would ever lead you to believe. As the man in this article said, "we learned to live on just a little" which is very valuable.


Do people still believe voting R is in the self interest of low income individuals? Thats hard to believe since every action they take favors everyone who is the opposite of low income.


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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: AP Article on Appalachia (SEO in particular)
   Posted: 10/3/2020 10:59:46 AM 
If you want to get an idea of what Billy is talking about, tune in to WSEO 107.7 for Viewpoint on Monday through Friday from 9 to 10 am. One time the host actually questioned the importance of learning to read since she knew lots of people who had done well who couldn't read. I'm not making that up and called in to question her about that.

http://wseofm.com
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  Message Not Read  RE: AP Article on Appalachia (SEO in particular)
   Posted: 10/3/2020 12:49:14 PM 
The Optimist wrote:
While there are certainly race issues in Appalachia, it frustrates me greatly that people who are voting primarily on the issue of their own economic hardship are painted by the media as hateful people. The lifestyle of poor white people stuck in poverty in Appalachia would likely have a lot more in common with poor black people in urban areas than articles like this would ever lead you to believe. As the man in this article said, "we learned to live on just a little" which is very valuable.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnic...


What about the article made you feel like they were painted as a hateful people? I thought the article essentially stated that feelings about race are complicated (as indicated by the got who wouldn't be friends with a muslim, but was in a bi-racial marriage).

Further, that the folks in SEO have a lot in common with folks in poor, inner city neighborhoods doesn't actually have anything to do with how folks in SEO think about race.
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  Message Not Read  RE: AP Article on Appalachia (SEO in particular)
   Posted: 10/3/2020 10:35:20 PM 
The Optimist wrote:
The lifestyle of poor white people stuck in poverty in Appalachia would likely have a lot more in common with poor black people in urban areas than articles like this would ever lead you to believe.


Not really, no.


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  Message Not Read  RE: AP Article on Appalachia (SEO in particular)
   Posted: 10/3/2020 10:45:03 PM 
JSF wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
The lifestyle of poor white people stuck in poverty in Appalachia would likely have a lot more in common with poor black people in urban areas than articles like this would ever lead you to believe.


Not really, no.


Two completely different situations. JSF sums it up nicely. No. Not having lived either but have witnessed both very closely - first growing up with guys in that situation and then teaching kids in SE Ohio, they are as different as night and day.

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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: AP Article on Appalachia (SEO in particular)
   Posted: 10/4/2020 1:55:53 AM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
While there are certainly race issues in Appalachia, it frustrates me greatly that people who are voting primarily on the issue of their own economic hardship are painted by the media as hateful people. The lifestyle of poor white people stuck in poverty in Appalachia would likely have a lot more in common with poor black people in urban areas than articles like this would ever lead you to believe. As the man in this article said, "we learned to live on just a little" which is very valuable.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnic...


What about the article made you feel like they were painted as a hateful people? I thought the article essentially stated that feelings about race are complicated (as indicated by the got who wouldn't be friends with a muslim, but was in a bi-racial marriage).

Further, that the folks in SEO have a lot in common with folks in poor, inner city neighborhoods doesn't actually have anything to do with how folks in SEO think about race.


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  Message Not Read  RE: AP Article on Appalachia (SEO in particular)
   Posted: 10/5/2020 8:52:20 PM 
This is one of my "go to" articles on the subject of rural poverty. The area is not too far from Ohio...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/12/beattyvil...
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  Message Not Read  RE: AP Article on Appalachia (SEO in particular)
   Posted: 10/5/2020 9:17:50 PM 
greencat wrote:
This is one of my "go to" articles on the subject of rural poverty. The area is not too far from Ohio...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/12/beattyvil...


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