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Topic:  Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
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Bcat2
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  Message Not Read  Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 12/30/2018 1:48:25 PM 
Seems STL and NYC have deer problems. A company, White Buffalo, is involved in their wildlife management. In STL deer are hunted, processed and the meat donated to shelters. NYC has decided to hire them to sterilize bucks. White Buffalo reportedly won a no-bid emergency contract and has so far "snipped" 1,456 bucks at $2,652.95 per animal. The three year program will run 4.1 million. Ann Arbor, MI was considering White Buffalo's doe sterilization until state Rep. Triston Cole sponsored a bill banning the process as "cruel" because of the stress of the tranquilization process. Michigan's Governor Rick Snyder signed the bill Dec. 19th.

Last Edited: 12/30/2018 1:51:21 PM by Bcat2


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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 12/30/2018 4:07:55 PM 
Bcat2 wrote:
Seems STL and NYC have deer problems. A company, White Buffalo, is involved in their wildlife management. In STL deer are hunted, processed and the meat donated to shelters. NYC has decided to hire them to sterilize bucks. White Buffalo reportedly won a no-bid emergency contract and has so far "snipped" 1,456 bucks at $2,652.95 per animal. The three year program will run 4.1 million. Ann Arbor, MI was considering White Buffalo's doe sterilization until state Rep. Triston Cole sponsored a bill banning the process as "cruel" because of the stress of the tranquilization process. Michigan's Governor Rick Snyder signed the bill Dec. 19th.



Yeah most every city has a deer problem and has authorized hunts.
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Obc2
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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 12/30/2018 6:47:18 PM 
just missed two deer about an hour ago returning home from dinner.

thats 4-5 near misses on local roads since the X game.
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Bcat2
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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 12/30/2018 7:59:29 PM 
Obc2 wrote:
just missed two deer about an hour ago returning home from dinner.

thats 4-5 near misses on local roads since the X game.


284,000 taken this year in Missouri, yet, the deer population seems unaffected. See one, there will always be another. Missouri has a Share the Harvest program for hunters willing to donate part or all of their meat. A processor I know is doing a lot for our food pantries. Taxpayer dollars spent sterilizing deer seems just silly.


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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 12/30/2018 8:36:26 PM 
Bcat2 wrote:
Obc2 wrote:
just missed two deer about an hour ago returning home from dinner.

thats 4-5 near misses on local roads since the X game.


284,000 taken this year in Missouri, yet, the deer population seems unaffected. See one, there will always be another. Missouri has a Share the Harvest program for hunters willing to donate part or all of their meat. A processor I know is doing a lot for our food pantries. Taxpayer dollars spent sterilizing deer seems just silly.



146,000 taken as of Christmas Day, which is a marked drop-off. Hunting is a rapidly declining activity in Ohio and effecting the economies in SE Ohio
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 12/30/2018 9:32:54 PM 
Bcat2 wrote:
Obc2 wrote:
just missed two deer about an hour ago returning home from dinner.

thats 4-5 near misses on local roads since the X game.


Taxpayer dollars spent sterilizing deer seems just silly.



Which part of New York City would you suggest opening to hunters?
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Ohio69
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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 12/30/2018 10:24:59 PM 

Didnít know The White Buffalo did this between gigs.


Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 12/30/2018 11:38:31 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
Obc2 wrote:
just missed two deer about an hour ago returning home from dinner.

thats 4-5 near misses on local roads since the X game.


Taxpayer dollars spent sterilizing deer seems just silly.



Which part of New York City would you suggest opening to hunters?


The White Buffalo folks can harvest the deer without opening the city to hunters. They already hunted those 1400 that were "tranquilized" instead. I know cities are so flush with cash the $2,600.00 per animal for sterilization is no problem. Just don't kid yourself that the remaining bucks are not capable of keeping up the population. Choices, STL chooses to direct the venison to Missouri's Share the Harvest program. Again, sterilizing deer seems silly. Those White Buffalo folks surely are grinning all the way to the bank.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 12/31/2018 9:00:00 AM 
Coastal elites slowly realizing that gun control was a much more affordable method to keep the toxic masculinity of deer at reasonable levels.


I've seen crazier things happen.

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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 12/31/2018 1:01:14 PM 
Bcat2 wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
Bcat2 wrote:
Obc2 wrote:
just missed two deer about an hour ago returning home from dinner.

thats 4-5 near misses on local roads since the X game.


Taxpayer dollars spent sterilizing deer seems just silly.



Which part of New York City would you suggest opening to hunters?


The White Buffalo folks can harvest the deer without opening the city to hunters. They already hunted those 1400 that were "tranquilized" instead. I know cities are so flush with cash the $2,600.00 per animal for sterilization is no problem. Just don't kid yourself that the remaining bucks are not capable of keeping up the population. Choices, STL chooses to direct the venison to Missouri's Share the Harvest program. Again, sterilizing deer seems silly. Those White Buffalo folks surely are grinning all the way to the bank.



I'm not sure I follow. So your complaint here is that White Buffalo over charges?

What alternative are you suggesting for New York?

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yamaha45701
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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 12/31/2018 1:15:12 PM 
I run a landscaping business and a member of the National Association of Landscape Professionals. (NALP). Deer overpopulation is a massive problem for our industry. There is a huge list of plants, shrubs and trees that we call deer food now. No sense planting them because, unless treated several times in winter with deer repellent, they will be munched to pieces. Even plant species that are poisonous to deer are being eaten!
Athens has one of the highest deer population per square mile in the state up on the Ridges. No hunting allowed but the deer go out of there into the surrounding neighborhoods to graze. The auto insurance companies will tell you that the deer collisions are off the chart. We all pay through higher insurance premiums. Count the dead deer bodies on the side of the road. I counted seven between Athens and Parkersburg two weeks ago.
One last thing, one of the appalachian southern states fenced off a two acre area with deer fencing and guess what?, the early ground plants like trilliums and others that emerge in early spring before the leaves emerge covered the forest floor. Outside the fence, bare ground. The ecosystem is being severely strained by the monoculture of deer overpopulation.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 12/31/2018 1:57:23 PM 
When I was at O.U. several of my friends lived way off campus.

When I went to visit,you'd see a number of people who had a salt lick
in their yard.

Deer comes over,bang.
Fresh meat.

It wasn't legal,and took any "sport" out of hunting.

But I never heard of anyone getting in trouble for it.


Last Edited: 12/31/2018 1:58:04 PM by rpbobcat

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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 1/1/2019 11:11:13 AM 
To paraphrase General Phil Sheridan, of Somerset, Ohio, "The only good deer is a dead deer!" Hate those varmints. Rats with antlers, they are.


"It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right."

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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 1/2/2019 6:22:46 PM 
Had a guy in our neighborhood using a cross-bow to hunt deer - in the neighborhood. Not near the neighborhood, not in the woods behind the neighborhood - literally in yards. Had to go to City Council to get him to stop.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 1/2/2019 6:42:39 PM 
cc-cat wrote:
Had a guy in our neighborhood using a cross-bow to hunt deer - in the neighborhood. Not near the neighborhood, not in the woods behind the neighborhood - literally in yards. Had to go to City Council to get him to stop.


Why did you do that? Afraid his aim was bad? Sounds like a neighborhood hero to me! ;-)


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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 1/3/2019 7:21:45 PM 
Bcat2 wrote:
...has so far "snipped" 1,456 bucks at $2,652.95 per animal.


I hate living in postmodern times.


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Brian Smith
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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 1/4/2019 1:52:21 PM 
Let me drive through their neighborhoods in my Civic. I've hit three of them in my lifetime. They're attracted to destroying my cars. I'll take care of it.

My sister and her husband once hit a cow in a T-Bird. Don't recommend that, either.

Last Edited: 1/4/2019 1:53:21 PM by Brian Smith


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  Message Not Read  RE: Cities and Deer Problems (topic expected to be moved)
   Posted: 1/11/2019 3:14:57 PM 
cc-cat wrote:
Had a guy in our neighborhood using a cross-bow to hunt deer - in the neighborhood. Not near the neighborhood, not in the woods behind the neighborhood - literally in yards. Had to go to City Council to get him to stop.


Yea, define "had to." I mean, if he was slinging arrows all over the neighborhood and shooting towards people or something like that, yes, that's dangerous. If he wasn't, what was the problem?

I do my part to limit deer-vehicle collisions. I've hunted the last few years just outside of town on a small rural piece of ground and the deer numbers there are nuts. A friend of mine who isn't still living here used to hunt essentially yards of people living very near town and killed a lot of deer.
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