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Topic: RE: OT: Futbol

Topic: RE: OT: Futbol

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OhioCatFan
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RE: OT: Futbol

Posted: 12/14/2018 11:00:11 AM

Ohio69 wrote:

cc-cat wrote:

Ohio69 wrote:

MLS is already the third best pro league in the US in terms of attendance, behind the NFL and MLB. Quite amazing considering the long histories of all the other pro leagues compared to MLS.

Soccer is the future. No stopping it.

I remember hearing that last century too.

LOL. Its gonna happen! Soccer and the electric car !

The electric car, so 19th Century! ;-)

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RE: OT: Futbol

Posted: 12/17/2018 1:13:05 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

Ohio69 wrote:

Yep, and the top 3 are all outdoor sports which have larger venues to allow for viewership. NBA and NHL are constrained by the size of venue. Apples to Oranges.

In TV viewership, MLS is 5th of 5 in both viewership and revenue. But hey.

What about when you include viewership and revenue for the EPL in the US? And the US National team?

Recovering Journalist
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RE: OT: Futbol

Posted: 12/17/2018 6:41:15 PM

A majority of middle-aged dudes on a football-centric message board don't think soccer has a future in the U.S. A stunning consensus.

I'll take it with a grain of salt.

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RE: OT: Futbol

Posted: 12/17/2018 8:38:45 PM

Recovering Journalist wrote:

A majority of middle-aged dudes on a football-centric message board don't think soccer has a future in the U.S. A stunning consensus.

I'll take it with a grain of salt.

Younger than middle-aged. But, to be clear, I think that soccer might very well have a future in the US. I hope I'm wrong and would probably watch a traffic camera's feed before I'd get into soccer, but I acknowledge that its probably got a future.

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RE: OT: Futbol

Posted: 12/18/2018 11:58:16 AM

Soccer has been the "sport of the future" for seemingly 30 years. It's advanced a little in popularity, but not nearly to the extent that some would have predicted.

To me, it probably "is what it is" in the US. A sport that, while attracting enough audience to be a professional league, will never come close to football, basketball or baseball - at least in our lifetime. At best, it can hope to get equal to hockey (which, I'd argue, it's fairly close right now).

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RE: OT: Futbol

Posted: 12/18/2018 12:50:27 PM

catfan28 wrote:

How to say this,without tripping a bunch of PC landmines.

In this part of N.J.,pro soccer fans are,for the most part, either foreign born,or first generation Americans.

The only exception are some heavily Scottish or Irish areas,like Harrison/Kearney.

Local youth soccer programs are pretty much at capacity,but that doesn't translate to crowds at pro games.

There's also a big drop off in youth participation in soccer,as kids approach high school.
Seems that,once kids stop playing,they loose interest.

Around here people don't tend to follow college sports,so most kids grow up Giants or Jets not Redbull fans.
You're also talking about much smaller stadiums for pro soccer vs. pro football.

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RE: OT: Futbol

Posted: 12/18/2018 2:19:28 PM

I think what's underestimated here is that the gains soccer's made in popularity in the US coincide with declines in popularity amongst some of the other more dominant sports and that the popularity of soccer is much higher amongst younger people.

There are also approximately 1000% more ways to watch and follow soccer than there were 30 years ago; a US soccer fan can just as easily be a Barcelona or Everton fan as they can be a Red Bulls fan. EPL games on NBC Sports -- which air at 9am on Saturday morning -- still manage to attract half as many viewers as MLB games on ESPN in primetime. Which is pretty damn good considering the current state of television viewership, the time slot, and the fact that the teams involved are all located 3,000 miles away.

A regular season Man U - Man City got 1.72 million viewers at 11am EST/8am PST. That's in line with a Sunday Night Baseball rating on ESPN.

And given that those numbers are heavy on young people, they should only grow going forward.

Paul Graham
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RE: OT: Futbol

Posted: 12/26/2018 1:03:52 AM

mf279801 wrote:

[QUOTE]
One example: Slow TV, train ride from Bergen to Oslo (https://www.netflix.com/title/80119525 ). 7 1/4 hours of footage shot from a camera placed on the front of a train as it goes from Bergen to Oslo.

Our family is so into this. We're hoping to get to Norway someday so the kids can actually ride it.

Last Edited: 12/26/2018 1:04:03 AM by Paul Graham

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