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Topic: RE: Has the state gone backwards since the Kent St. shooing days?

Topic: RE: Has the state gone backwards since the Kent St. shooing days?

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rpbobcat
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RE: Has the state gone backwards since the Kent St. shooing days?

Posted: 8/6/2018 7:21:10 AM

greencat wrote:

Somebody tell these rednecks . . .

Still remember when I was at O.U.,Parma was the butt of all kinds of redneck jokes.
Maybe it still is.

Anyway,people from there used to proudly say "red necks,white socks and Blue Ribbon beer",just like the song.

Every time I hear redneck,that still comes to mind.

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RE: Has the state gone backwards since the Kent St. shooing days?

Posted: 8/6/2018 8:38:44 AM

OhioCatFan wrote:

And, please don't give me a lecture saying that the Democrats are the Republicans of the 1860s.

I agree entirely. The Democrats are the Republicans of the 1960s.

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RE: Has the state gone backwards since the Kent St. shooing days?

Posted: 8/6/2018 9:15:21 AM

OUPride wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

And, please don't give me a lecture saying that the Democrats are the Republicans of the 1860s.

I agree entirely. The Democrats are the Republicans of the 1960s.

Did you sleep through first period U.S. History class in 10th grade.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiro_Agnew

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon

Last Edited: 8/6/2018 9:15:51 AM by greencat

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RE: Has the state gone backwards since the Kent St. shooing days?

Posted: 8/6/2018 10:05:09 AM

greencat wrote:

OUPride wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

And, please don't give me a lecture saying that the Democrats are the Republicans of the 1860s.

I agree entirely. The Democrats are the Republicans of the 1960s.

We'll leave Agnew out of it since it can't be said that he was ever the leader of the party. I would argue that the Republicans didn't truly become the party of Barry Goldwater (despite his 64 nomination) until Reagan was nominated in 1980. Nixon--at least domestically--was to the left of the current Democratic Party, as was Eisenhower. The Democratic establishment (not the Bernie/Sherrod Brown wing, which is maybe a third of the party) since Bill Clinton is essentially the old 1960s Northern Rockefeller Republicans. They're socially moderate but firmly pro big-business with an interventionist foreign policy. The Bernie wing is what's left of the old Democratic (FDR & LBJ) party. The Republicans are pretty much a toxic combination of the Goldwater-Reagan wing and the nativist, batshit crazy John Birchers with the latter in ascendance since the 90s and dominant today.

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RE: Has the state gone backwards since the Kent St. shooing days?

Posted: 8/6/2018 10:54:39 AM

OUPride wrote:

greencat wrote:

OUPride wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

And, please don't give me a lecture saying that the Democrats are the Republicans of the 1860s.

I agree entirely. The Democrats are the Republicans of the 1960s.

The Republicans are pretty much a toxic combination of the Goldwater-Reagan wing and the nativist, batshit crazy John Birchers with the latter in ascendance since the 90s and dominant today.

While I only mildly disagree with the first parts of your post, I only have time right now to explain why I disagree with some of the last part.

Bat5hit John Birchers? Yes but trumpers is only a new name for the same people who went by "tea party." Their ascendance started with Regan's thinly veiled dog whistle crappola in 1980 but hit a shrill peak in 1988 as Lee Atwater rescued Bush-1's campaign that was trailing Dukakis in the polls. How many people had ever even heard of rush limbaugh before 1988? The whisper campaign of "Dukakis is not a "real" American by the far right was the forerunner to today's "birther/alex jones/Qanon" conspiracy nonsense that the right wing has trotted out every hour of every day when they saw how gullible Americans were in 1988. They saw "joe the plumbers" fall for it, hook line and sinker. Every four years, it's "{name of "D" candidate for President here} is going to confiscate your gun and bible in the middle of the night." And here it is 30 years later and not a single law abiding non-mentally-ill person has had their gun taken away. As far as I know, there hasn't been a single bible confiscated. There is an imaginary "war on Christmas" that doesn't exist though. Another bogus manufactured boogie-man the right wing strategists use to dupe the gullible yokels into sticking with them and voting against their own interests.

Goldwater's failed run as a pre-Southern Strategy far rightist was so early in the 1960's that I pretty much associate it with more with the late 50's but that's just me. But he would have been considered "alt-right" of his day... almost like a continuation of Joe McCarthy.

Last Edited: 8/6/2018 10:57:26 AM by greencat

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