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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  Fashion Police O.T.
   Posted: 2/17/2017 7:41:11 AM 
First there was Political Correctness,now the Fashion Police have invaded Rutgers.

There was a piece on the news this morning about students being turned away from a Job Fair.
Why ?
They violated the dress code by wearing (gasp) a blue suit.

Apparently Rutgers has a VERY strict dress code for these things.

For men,black or dark grey suits only.
No brown shoes.
Similar requirements for women.

I understand wanting your students to look "professional" for a Job Fair,but come on,a navy suit isn't allowed.

And,to paraphrase from from the Shawshank Redemption , "how often do you look at a man's shoes ?"

Last Edited: 2/17/2017 7:47:16 AM by rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fashion Police O.T.
   Posted: 2/17/2017 8:24:07 AM 
rpbobcat wrote:
First there was Political Correctness,now the Fashion Police have invaded Rutgers.

There was a piece on the news this morning about students being turned away from a Job Fair.
Why ?
They violated the dress code by wearing (gasp) a blue suit.

Apparently Rutgers has a VERY strict dress code for these things.

For men,black or dark grey suits only.
No brown shoes.
Similar requirements for women.

I understand wanting your students to look "professional" for a Job Fair,but come on,a navy suit isn't allowed.

And,to paraphrase from from the Shawshank Redemption , "how often do you look at a man's shoes ?"



Interesting, and I'm not sure why (I'd be interested in knowing) a blue suit (I'm assuming dark blue) is not allowed. I get the brown shoes though. And I think a lot of people look at shoes and watches.

http://www.businessinsider.com/best-and-worst-colors-to-w...

Last Edited: 2/17/2017 8:24:17 AM by BillyTheCat
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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fashion Police O.T.
   Posted: 2/17/2017 8:28:22 AM 
In defense of Rutgers it does seem that they publicized the dress requirements before hand. So as much here is the students not following the rules set forth by the event organizers.


http://www.nj.com/education/2017/02/rutgers_dress_code_co...
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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fashion Police O.T.
   Posted: 2/17/2017 8:30:18 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
First there was Political Correctness,now the Fashion Police have invaded Rutgers.

There was a piece on the news this morning about students being turned away from a Job Fair.
Why ?
They violated the dress code by wearing (gasp) a blue suit.

Apparently Rutgers has a VERY strict dress code for these things.

For men,black or dark grey suits only.
No brown shoes.
Similar requirements for women.

I understand wanting your students to look "professional" for a Job Fair,but come on,a navy suit isn't allowed.

And,to paraphrase from from the Shawshank Redemption , "how often do you look at a man's shoes ?"



Interesting, and I'm not sure why (I'd be interested in knowing) a blue suit (I'm assuming dark blue) is not allowed. I get the brown shoes though. And I think a lot of people look at shoes and watches.

http://www.businessinsider.com/best-and-worst-colors-to-w...


From what they said on the news, some of the people running the Job Fair were concerned with different "hues" (their word,not mine) of blue.
Why not just say "navy blue".

As far as shoes.
According to some attorney friends of mine,brown shoes are no longer considered a fashion no-no with different colored suits.

I agree about watches.
Some people are wearing watches that could be used for arm curls.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fashion Police O.T.
   Posted: 2/17/2017 8:38:34 AM 
rpbobcat wrote:
First there was Political Correctness,now the Fashion Police have invaded Rutgers.

There was a piece on the news this morning about students being turned away from a Job Fair.
Why ?
They violated the dress code by wearing (gasp) a blue suit.

Apparently Rutgers has a VERY strict dress code for these things.

For men,black or dark grey suits only.
No brown shoes.
Similar requirements for women.

I understand wanting your students to look "professional" for a Job Fair,but come on,a navy suit isn't allowed.

And,to paraphrase from from the Shawshank Redemption , "how often do you look at a man's shoes ?"



I’ve been recruiting and interviewing job seekers for over 30 years and I try to make note of a candidate's attire every time(including a man's shoes.) My focus is more function/upkeep and not so much the color.
As far as the dress code at Rutgers, I agree excluding blue(dark/navy) is a wee bit excessive. Agree with Billy on his take.


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rpbobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fashion Police O.T.
   Posted: 2/17/2017 8:50:57 AM 
MedinaCat wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
First there was Political Correctness,now the Fashion Police have invaded Rutgers.

There was a piece on the news this morning about students being turned away from a Job Fair.
Why ?
They violated the dress code by wearing (gasp) a blue suit.

Apparently Rutgers has a VERY strict dress code for these things.

For men,black or dark grey suits only.
No brown shoes.
Similar requirements for women.

I understand wanting your students to look "professional" for a Job Fair,but come on,a navy suit isn't allowed.

And,to paraphrase from from the Shawshank Redemption , "how often do you look at a man's shoes ?"



I’ve been recruiting and interviewing job seekers for over 30 years and I try to make note of a candidate's attire every time(including a man's shoes.) My focus is more function/upkeep and not so much the color.
As far as the dress code at Rutgers, I agree excluding blue(dark/navy) is a wee bit excessive. Agree with Billy on his take.



I agree that the the flier Rutgers put out was specific as it pertains to dress.
The only issue is that,apparently,in the past,the school did exercise some discretion.

I've been interviewing applicants for my company for about the same amount of time as you.
I agree 100% about function/upkeep as opposed to color.
Shoe color has never been a big issue with me.Probably because I tend to wear dark brown shoes pretty much all the time.
What I do notice is "style".
Lately "dress (?)" sneakers have started to become more and more prevalent.

I have also had people applying for professional (engineer,designer) positions show up for an interview in "warm ups" or cutoff shorts.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fashion Police O.T.
   Posted: 2/17/2017 8:52:30 AM 
rpbobcat wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
First there was Political Correctness,now the Fashion Police have invaded Rutgers.

There was a piece on the news this morning about students being turned away from a Job Fair.
Why ?
They violated the dress code by wearing (gasp) a blue suit.

Apparently Rutgers has a VERY strict dress code for these things.

For men,black or dark grey suits only.
No brown shoes.
Similar requirements for women.

I understand wanting your students to look "professional" for a Job Fair,but come on,a navy suit isn't allowed.

And,to paraphrase from from the Shawshank Redemption , "how often do you look at a man's shoes ?"



Interesting, and I'm not sure why (I'd be interested in knowing) a blue suit (I'm assuming dark blue) is not allowed. I get the brown shoes though. And I think a lot of people look at shoes and watches.

http://www.businessinsider.com/best-and-worst-colors-to-w...


From what they said on the news, some of the people running the Job Fair were concerned with different "hues" (their word,not mine) of blue.
Why not just say "navy blue".

As far as shoes.
According to some attorney friends of mine,brown shoes are no longer considered a fashion no-no with different colored suits.

I agree about watches.
Some people are wearing watches that could be used for arm curls.




Brown shoes are more in vogue, but for me in my personal preference they are not something I'll wear, nor do I teach that you should wear brown shoes. Always safer playing the norms.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fashion Police O.T.
   Posted: 2/17/2017 9:01:40 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
First there was Political Correctness,now the Fashion Police have invaded Rutgers.

There was a piece on the news this morning about students being turned away from a Job Fair.
Why ?
They violated the dress code by wearing (gasp) a blue suit.

Apparently Rutgers has a VERY strict dress code for these things.

For men,black or dark grey suits only.
No brown shoes.
Similar requirements for women.

I understand wanting your students to look "professional" for a Job Fair,but come on,a navy suit isn't allowed.

And,to paraphrase from from the Shawshank Redemption , "how often do you look at a man's shoes ?"



Interesting, and I'm not sure why (I'd be interested in knowing) a blue suit (I'm assuming dark blue) is not allowed. I get the brown shoes though. And I think a lot of people look at shoes and watches.

http://www.businessinsider.com/best-and-worst-colors-to-w...


From what they said on the news, some of the people running the Job Fair were concerned with different "hues" (their word,not mine) of blue.
Why not just say "navy blue".

As far as shoes.
According to some attorney friends of mine,brown shoes are no longer considered a fashion no-no with different colored suits.

I agree about watches.
Some people are wearing watches that could be used for arm curls.




Brown shoes are more in vogue, but for me in my personal preference they are not something I'll wear, nor do I teach that you should wear brown shoes. Always safer playing the norms.


Just curious: Do you regard cordovan as brown?

Most of my dress shoes are black. Exceptions: one pair of cordovan wing-tips and two pairs of cordovan loafers.

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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fashion Police O.T.
   Posted: 2/17/2017 9:29:42 AM 
Mike Johnson wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
First there was Political Correctness,now the Fashion Police have invaded Rutgers.

There was a piece on the news this morning about students being turned away from a Job Fair.
Why ?
They violated the dress code by wearing (gasp) a blue suit.

Apparently Rutgers has a VERY strict dress code for these things.

For men,black or dark grey suits only.
No brown shoes.
Similar requirements for women.

I understand wanting your students to look "professional" for a Job Fair,but come on,a navy suit isn't allowed.

And,to paraphrase from from the Shawshank Redemption , "how often do you look at a man's shoes ?"



Interesting, and I'm not sure why (I'd be interested in knowing) a blue suit (I'm assuming dark blue) is not allowed. I get the brown shoes though. And I think a lot of people look at shoes and watches.

http://www.businessinsider.com/best-and-worst-colors-to-w...


From what they said on the news, some of the people running the Job Fair were concerned with different "hues" (their word,not mine) of blue.
Why not just say "navy blue".

As far as shoes.
According to some attorney friends of mine,brown shoes are no longer considered a fashion no-no with different colored suits.

I agree about watches.
Some people are wearing watches that could be used for arm curls.




Brown shoes are more in vogue, but for me in my personal preference they are not something I'll wear, nor do I teach that you should wear brown shoes. Always safer playing the norms.


Just curious: Do you regard cordovan as brown?

Most of my dress shoes are black. Exceptions: one pair of cordovan wing-tips and two pairs of cordovan loafers.


One of our reps in PA/NJ is a shoe watcher - she says it says much about a man. I have a pair of Ecco cordovan shoes that I wear with dress khakis and a blue blazer and they pass her test. How someone is "put together" in an interview is something we all watch but I'm also paying very close attention to how they talk. Like and you know generally send you to the bottom of the applicant list.

This is a funny but good topic that you'll only see on Bobcatatack. Now all we need is for our resident fashion expert, Russ, to chime in.

Have a good Friday everyone. I'm about to put on a pair of dark brown shoes. :)
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fashion Police O.T.
   Posted: 2/17/2017 10:43:53 AM 
Dress that is markedly sloppy or inappropriate sends a message.

But beyond that, I interview for substance

A prospect doesn't even get in the door unless they meet technical job requirements.

Beyond that I'm much more concerned with smarts, drive and integrity, about which Warren Buffet said that if you only have 2 of the 3 you'll either ruin the business or be a crook.


Refuse to consider a fine candidate because their shoes, while not in disrepair, are 'the wrong color'--not gonna happen.







Last Edited: 2/17/2017 10:44:38 AM by Monroe Slavin

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  Message Not Read  RE: Fashion Police O.T.
   Posted: 2/17/2017 10:55:21 AM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Dress that is markedly sloppy or inappropriate sends a message.

But beyond that, I interview for substance

A prospect doesn't even get in the door unless they meet technical job requirements.

Beyond that I'm much more concerned with smarts, drive and integrity, about which Warren Buffet said that if you only have 2 of the 3 you'll either ruin the business or be a crook.


Refuse to consider a fine candidate because their shoes, while not in disrepair, are 'the wrong color'--not gonna happen.



+1

Just goes to show not even Monroe can be wrong all the time! ;-)



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   Posted: 2/17/2017 11:24:26 AM 

I wear green shoes to match my shades.

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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