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Topic:  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
   Posted: 1/7/2017 3:11:16 PM 
Agree with CA

Also like the following:

He was involved with economic development in Fargo - he appreciates the engine the university can be in a community

He has a degree from BG - so he is familiar with the MAC.

Given his time at Chapel Hill the politics won't phase him.

He knows Saul and comes from a school that appreciates athletics.


Note Frank from New Mexico also hits the first two buttons

Last Edited: 1/7/2017 3:13:19 PM by cc-cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
   Posted: 1/8/2017 12:24:30 PM 
Forgive me,since I'm not from the world of academia.

As far as I understand it, the Board of Trustees decides on the next President of O.U.

So what's the purpose of the "Open Forum" ?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
   Posted: 1/8/2017 2:59:56 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:
Forgive me,since I'm not from the world of academia.

As far as I understand it, the Board of Trustees decides on the next President of O.U.

So what's the purpose of the "Open Forum" ?



To gauge the public persona of the candidates. This is also somewhat common with public school superintendents. If a candidate is a total disaster behind the mic in a public forum, that will certainly play into the trustees decision.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
   Posted: 1/8/2017 3:41:34 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
rpbobcat wrote:
Forgive me,since I'm not from the world of academia.

As far as I understand it, the Board of Trustees decides on the next President of O.U.

So what's the purpose of the "Open Forum" ?



To gauge the public persona of the candidates. This is also somewhat common with public school superintendents. If a candidate is a total disaster behind the mic in a public forum, that will certainly play into the trustees decision.


Thanks.

Makes sense.
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   Posted: 1/8/2017 5:46:28 PM 
Has anyone heard of a potential streaming option for the forums?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
   Posted: 1/8/2017 5:53:29 PM 
mcbin wrote:
Has anyone heard of a potential streaming option for the forums?


Great question and something I would like to know as well.
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   Posted: 1/8/2017 8:43:17 PM 
mcbin wrote:
Has anyone heard of a potential streaming option for the forums?


Excellent idea Ben. Send this guy an email and see what he says:

Dan Pittman

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
   Posted: 1/9/2017 12:50:48 AM 
JerseyArnie wrote:
Jeff Johnson wrote:
I would oppose Robert Frank as a choice, as his tenure at University of New Mexico has been fraught with controversy amid complaints about his management style and accusations of abusing his expense account. See newspaper reports below:

https://www.abqjournal.com/901952/unm-regents-call-specia...

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/education/unm-presi...


I follow the New Mexico papers fairly close, as I have a house there. He did not seem particularity liked, though I just casually followed his leaving the President post at UNM. He was offered an alternative job in the University at a huge salary. A lot of New Mexico education is funded by Oil and Gas revenues. With the sector down, there have been cuts to the University budget. People were unhappy about this perceived buy out, in a time of tight funding.

https://www.abqjournal.com/921560/unms-bob-frank-is-final...




In the interest of equal time, here is a column from today's Abqjournal that is pro Frank:

https://www.abqjournal.com/923094/bob-frank-deserved-bett...


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
   Posted: 1/9/2017 1:11:42 AM 
D.A. wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
D.A. wrote:
DelBobcat wrote:
D.A. wrote:
I really like the backgrounds of the first two candidates in particular.

And no offense to her and her commitment to OHIO over recent years, but if Dr. Benoit is selected as our next President, I am pulling 100% of my financial commitments to the University.


Why is that? Is it that you feel she isn't as qualified as the other candidates? Or is it something else?


In the interest of brevity: the University needs a "CEO" in the President's role, and she has not held a position in that role in the past. I do not believe she is qualified to run the "business" of the business that is the University. The other three candidates have that experience. I could give you 100,000 words on the topic, though.


Neither did McDavis. Do you consider him a success? If so, you just refuted your own argument.



Is it still 2004? And did the last 13 years not happen? You just gave evidence to why I hardly post any longer, and perhaps should just stop.



Without more, I find D.A.'s take rather uncharitable, to say the least.

D.A.--Have you spoken with Dr. Benoit or met her?

I wouldn't judge a finalist merely on their resume/C.V. I'd at least want to know more, to meet them or hear directly from them (the purpose of the Forum, I assume).

And, like it or not, your post comes off as quite the slam: pledging withdrawal of support if she's hired.

If she's your least favorite candidate, that's fine.

To say that you'll withdraw your support, is pretty much offensive.


Just because a person hasn't been a CEO, without more, strikes me as not such a good reason for saying that the person cannot be a fine CEO. Everyone who became a CEO once was not one.

If she's had success along the trail in academia, she may be able as President.


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   Posted: 1/9/2017 6:28:12 AM 
mcbin wrote:
Has anyone heard of a potential streaming option for the forums?


From the initial press release about the four candidates:

"Additionally, a live web stream of the Open Forums will be provided for those interested but unable to attend. The live stream will only be accessible to individuals with a valid Ohio University ID. For additional information regarding the search for Ohio University’s next president, I encourage you to visit www.ohio.edu/presidential-search ."

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
   Posted: 1/9/2017 8:24:33 AM 
D.A. wrote:
mcbin wrote:
Has anyone heard of a potential streaming option for the forums?


From the initial press release about the four candidates:

"Additionally, a live web stream of the Open Forums will be provided for those interested but unable to attend. The live stream will only be accessible to individuals with a valid Ohio University ID. For additional information regarding the search for Ohio University’s next president, I encourage you to visit http://www.ohio.edu/presidential-search ."


Wonder why they don't stream it like graduation,so anyone could watch it.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
   Posted: 1/9/2017 8:34:11 AM 
Having lived in Albuquerque for 15 years (May 1996 through 2011) I can attest that the author of this piece is correct in assessing that there is something organically wrong with the UNM Board of Trustees in that they have consistently been unable to retain a president and other key university officials for more than a few years. Whether it is the board itself that is the problem, or influential alumni and donors, has been unclear to me.

I am confident, based on more than 50 years of observation, that the Ohio University Board of Trustees will make a wise decision in replacing Dr. McDavis.

JerseyArnie wrote:
JerseyArnie wrote:
Jeff Johnson wrote:
I would oppose Robert Frank as a choice, as his tenure at University of New Mexico has been fraught with controversy amid complaints about his management style and accusations of abusing his expense account. See newspaper reports below:

https://www.abqjournal.com/901952/unm-regents-call-specia...

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/education/unm-presi...


I follow the New Mexico papers fairly close, as I have a house there. He did not seem particularity liked, though I just casually followed his leaving the President post at UNM. He was offered an alternative job in the University at a huge salary. A lot of New Mexico education is funded by Oil and Gas revenues. With the sector down, there have been cuts to the University budget. People were unhappy about this perceived buy out, in a time of tight funding.

https://www.abqjournal.com/921560/unms-bob-frank-is-final...




In the interest of equal time, here is a column from today's Abqjournal that is pro Frank:

https://www.abqjournal.com/923094/bob-frank-deserved-bett...




Jeff Johnson '67, Albuquerque, New Mexico
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
   Posted: 1/9/2017 10:31:52 AM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Without more, I find D.A.'s take rather uncharitable, to say the least.

D.A.--Have you spoken with Dr. Benoit or met her?

I wouldn't judge a finalist merely on their resume/C.V. I'd at least want to know more, to meet them or hear directly from them (the purpose of the Forum, I assume).

And, like it or not, your post comes off as quite the slam: pledging withdrawal of support if she's hired.

If she's your least favorite candidate, that's fine.

To say that you'll withdraw your support, is pretty much offensive.


Just because a person hasn't been a CEO, without more, strikes me as not such a good reason for saying that the person cannot be a fine CEO. Everyone who became a CEO once was not one.

If she's had success along the trail in academia, she may be able as President.




OHIO did not win a MACC in football during her tenure as provost. Disqualifying!

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
   Posted: 1/9/2017 1:02:34 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Without more, I find D.A.'s take rather uncharitable, to say the least.

D.A.--Have you spoken with Dr. Benoit or met her?

I wouldn't judge a finalist merely on their resume/C.V. I'd at least want to know more, to meet them or hear directly from them (the purpose of the Forum, I assume).

And, like it or not, your post comes off as quite the slam: pledging withdrawal of support if she's hired.

If she's your least favorite candidate, that's fine.

To say that you'll withdraw your support, is pretty much offensive.


Just because a person hasn't been a CEO, without more, strikes me as not such a good reason for saying that the person cannot be a fine CEO. Everyone who became a CEO once was not one.

If she's had success along the trail in academia, she may be able as President.




OHIO did not win a MACC in football during her tenure as provost. Disqualifying!



You guys bitch about Monroe's post relative to a MAC championship and then turn around an egg him on. Not cool.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
   Posted: 1/9/2017 2:31:04 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Without more, I find D.A.'s take rather uncharitable, to say the least.

D.A.--Have you spoken with Dr. Benoit or met her?

I wouldn't judge a finalist merely on their resume/C.V. I'd at least want to know more, to meet them or hear directly from them (the purpose of the Forum, I assume).

And, like it or not, your post comes off as quite the slam: pledging withdrawal of support if she's hired.

If she's your least favorite candidate, that's fine.

To say that you'll withdraw your support, is pretty much offensive.


Just because a person hasn't been a CEO, without more, strikes me as not such a good reason for saying that the person cannot be a fine CEO. Everyone who became a CEO once was not one.

If she's had success along the trail in academia, she may be able as President.




OHIO did not win a MACC in football during her tenure as provost. Disqualifying!



You guys bitch about Monroe's post relative to a MAC championship and then turn around an egg him on. Not cool.




You really think he needs any "egging on"? Maybe an old-fashioned egging! ;-)

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
   Posted: 1/9/2017 5:21:41 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Without more, I find D.A.'s take rather uncharitable, to say the least.

D.A.--Have you spoken with Dr. Benoit or met her?

I wouldn't judge a finalist merely on their resume/C.V. I'd at least want to know more, to meet them or hear directly from them (the purpose of the Forum, I assume).

And, like it or not, your post comes off as quite the slam: pledging withdrawal of support if she's hired.

If she's your least favorite candidate, that's fine.

To say that you'll withdraw your support, is pretty much offensive.


Just because a person hasn't been a CEO, without more, strikes me as not such a good reason for saying that the person cannot be a fine CEO. Everyone who became a CEO once was not one.

If she's had success along the trail in academia, she may be able as President.




OHIO did not win a MACC in football during her tenure as provost. Disqualifying!



You guys bitch about Monroe's post relative to a MAC championship and then turn around an egg him on. Not cool.



Whatever...anybody who posts the same thing 8,000 times doesn't need any egging on. Hell, he replies to his own posts half the time. He's an attention whore and his agenda is driven by just that.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio names 4 finalists for President's job
   Posted: 1/9/2017 6:30:30 PM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
D.A. wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
D.A. wrote:
DelBobcat wrote:
D.A. wrote:
I really like the backgrounds of the first two candidates in particular.

And no offense to her and her commitment to OHIO over recent years, but if Dr. Benoit is selected as our next President, I am pulling 100% of my financial commitments to the University.


Why is that? Is it that you feel she isn't as qualified as the other candidates? Or is it something else?


In the interest of brevity: the University needs a "CEO" in the President's role, and she has not held a position in that role in the past. I do not believe she is qualified to run the "business" of the business that is the University. The other three candidates have that experience. I could give you 100,000 words on the topic, though.


Neither did McDavis. Do you consider him a success? If so, you just refuted your own argument.



Is it still 2004? And did the last 13 years not happen? You just gave evidence to why I hardly post any longer, and perhaps should just stop.



Without more, I find D.A.'s take rather uncharitable, to say the least.

D.A.--Have you spoken with Dr. Benoit or met her?

I wouldn't judge a finalist merely on their resume/C.V. I'd at least want to know more, to meet them or hear directly from them (the purpose of the Forum, I assume).

And, like it or not, your post comes off as quite the slam: pledging withdrawal of support if she's hired.

If she's your least favorite candidate, that's fine.

To say that you'll withdraw your support, is pretty much offensive.


Just because a person hasn't been a CEO, without more, strikes me as not such a good reason for saying that the person cannot be a fine CEO. Everyone who became a CEO once was not one.

If she's had success along the trail in academia, she may be able as President.




And yet you show so much charity on this board. I don't care what you think about my posts. And I have spent considerable time with Dr. Benoit. I appreciate her service to OHIO as Provost. I hold firm to any statements I make; they are void of any hyperbole.

Last Edited: 1/9/2017 7:01:03 PM by D.A.

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   Posted: 1/10/2017 7:30:34 AM 
Then I hope she gets the job so you can keep your all important money. When the donation is about the giver, is that really giving?
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   Posted: 1/10/2017 11:56:50 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
Then I hope she gets the job so you can keep your all important money. When the donation is about the giver, is that really giving?


+1

My sentiments exactly!
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   Posted: 1/10/2017 4:33:55 PM 
D.A. wrote:
mcbin wrote:
Has anyone heard of a potential streaming option for the forums?


From the initial press release about the four candidates:

"Additionally, a live web stream of the Open Forums will be provided for those interested but unable to attend. The live stream will only be accessible to individuals with a valid Ohio University ID. For additional information regarding the search for Ohio University’s next president, I encourage you to visit http://www.ohio.edu/presidential-search ."


Got the feed up & running. Thanks DA
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   Posted: 1/14/2017 12:55:34 AM 
Inside baseball: NDSU guy is the clubhouse leader.

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   Posted: 1/14/2017 12:58:11 AM 
Also, Benoit is more of a courtesy/window dressing. She's not under serious consideration.

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   Posted: 1/14/2017 11:07:39 AM 
Bresciani from his resume looks most prepared to step in right away coming from a similar institution in size and situation. The negative I see is that he seems like another administrator and like McDavis has an educational department background. For this reason I prefer Frank as an allied health professions dean who could connect with faculty more. Develop new initiatives to support faculty. It's not only about tenure track vs. using lectures as Nellis is talking about, its promoting their research and initiatives to advance their goals. McDavis administration has done so much to support students with scholarships and hiring administrators to support student services. It's time more was done for the faculty. Vedder has said OU should be an Public Ivy school and its time the faculty were treated like it.

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catfan28 wrote:
Also, Benoit is more of a courtesy/window dressing. She's not under serious consideration.


Benoit is plenty qualified. She is a continuation of the McDavis legacy though which is a build up of student support service adminstrators. Nice work has been done to support students and keep tuition affordable and hit enrollment targets. The administration needs to connect better with faculty than what it has so I'd rather go with a more traditional dean type president than an administrative rock star which is becoming accepted as the contemporary model.

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   Posted: 1/15/2017 12:12:49 PM 
Uncle Wes wrote:
catfan28 wrote:
Also, Benoit is more of a courtesy/window dressing. She's not under serious consideration.


Benoit is plenty qualified. She is a continuation of the McDavis legacy though which is a build up of student support service adminstrators. Nice work has been done to support students and keep tuition affordable and hit enrollment targets. The administration needs to connect better with faculty than what it has so I'd rather go with a more traditional dean type president than an administrative rock star which is becoming accepted as the contemporary model.


Which disqualifies her in my view. McDavis is given a pass around here because of his slavish devotion to athletics (and willingness to create a fiscal sinkhole in pursuit of athletics), but his record to me is one of mediocrity and stagnation. The university needs some fresh air.
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