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Topic: RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Topic: RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

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oldkatz
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 2/25/2016 9:48:45 AM

Good question, OCF. Too compartmentalized "reporting" and not enough emphasis on quality has rendered the Post to an afterthought for me.
As a subscriber to two print dailies, I cherish the time spent each morning reading through them. This is a great thread on B/A, which is no doubt the most erudite fan board in the known galaxy.

"All my inside sources tell me I have no inside sources." Salvatore "money bucks" Mafiosiano.

MedinaCat
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 2/25/2016 4:14:14 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

Bitchy, you make some good points.

In response, let me ask this rhetorical question: How can they get out of their comfort zone, learn about the real world and develop the ability to ask hard-hitting questions when they are afraid to leave their safe space?

Perhaps the drone flying director should put down the controller and kick them in the ass?

mf279801
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 2/25/2016 5:38:15 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D3v_ogRaTf4 (hope the link works)

rpbobcat
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 2/26/2016 7:00:31 AM

Bitchy Incognito wrote:

A big potential problem going forward is that The Post has become crappier and crappier over the past several years to the point of near-irrelevancy. This doesn't portend well for a publication making a big transition that holds a lot of uncertainty.

I know they're amateurs - nobody expects perfection from a student newspaper. But it's tough to watch what was for a long time a legitimate point of pride descend into being, in large measure, a semi-literate, directionless mess of politically correct scolding done in the absence of fact-checking or much grasp of how the world actually works.

Way too many examples to list (fresh ones are printed five days a week), but here are a few quickies:

-The Post reported that after OU tears down the old science building on President Street this Spring, it will have a new building for the business school completed on the site by August 2016. Actually, it's slated to become green space until COB raises funds. The Post's timetable doesn't pass the smell test, much less rudimentary fact-checking.

-Some sports guy reported for them that OU's basketball victory over UConn in 1994 was one of the biggest wins in the Convo's history. The game was played in Hawaii.

-Absurd emphasis on LGBT issues. Unquestioning, daily regurgitation of radical activists' beliefs. References to "vandalizing of the Black Lives Matter graffiti wall." Exactly when was it re-christened?

Clearly, oh-so-clearly for those really paying attention, it's time for aspiring journalists to put down the social media and texting, boycott Netflix and read more books and do more face-to-face interviews outside their comfort zones. Unfortunately, the digital shift they're embarking on is likely to exacerbate the problems I've outlined.

Don't expect much help from Scripps when Director Stewart flies a drone in his J-school class as some sort of pedagogical gimmick.

According to an Op-Ed piece in today's (2/26) The Post,they are "working to ensure less mistakes".

Maybe the Editor reads B/A ?

Ohio69
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 2/26/2016 10:38:18 AM

Bitchy Incognito wrote:

............
I know they're amateurs - nobody expects perfection from a student newspaper. But it's tough to watch what was for a long time a legitimate point of pride descend into being, in large measure, a semi-literate, directionless mess of politically correct scolding done in the absence of fact-checking or much grasp of how the world actually works........

Unquestioning, daily regurgitation of radical activists' beliefs...........

Man I chuckled when I read those comments.

But hey, that stuff sells, right?

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

Robert Fox
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 2/26/2016 11:54:14 AM

rpbobcat wrote:

According to an Op-Ed piece in today's (2/26) The Post,they are "working to ensure less mistakes".

Maybe the Editor reads B/A ?

Should be 'fewer' mistakes. The learning begins now!

Alan Swank
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 2/26/2016 12:43:43 PM

Robert Fox wrote:

rpbobcat wrote:

According to an Op-Ed piece in today's (2/26) The Post,they are "working to ensure less mistakes".

Maybe the Editor reads B/A ?

Should be 'fewer' mistakes. The learning begins now!

Well played and true.

ts1227
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 2/29/2016 9:06:10 PM

UpSan Bobcat wrote:

One of the problems of the Internet is that people think everything should be free. I don't know how many times I've seen people comment on Facebook posts from The Post that they hate the survey question they have to answer to read the stories. All it costs them is 15 seconds of their time and they think that is too much.

I'm guilty of this when it comes to news. I have no problem with the survey questions, but any news site that puts up a hard paywall is dead to me, and I just find the info elsewhere (or in the case of my hometown newspaper - and most all Ogden owned ones, they never bothered to extend the paywall to the app, good job guys). Soft paywalls (like article limits per month) are a joke and anyone that knows how to delete their temporary internet files knows how to circumvent that.

Bobcatbob
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 3/1/2016 2:39:26 PM

Alan Swank wrote:

Robert Fox wrote:

rpbobcat wrote:

According to an Op-Ed piece in today's (2/26) The Post,they are "working to ensure less mistakes".

Maybe the Editor reads B/A ?

Should be 'fewer' mistakes. The learning begins now!

Well played and true.

Poor kids; can't win for "loosing".

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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 3/7/2016 2:54:43 PM

I have this terrible feeling that the AP is eventually going to cave on less/fewer.

We already lost the over/more than war a couple years ago.

Bobcatbob
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 3/7/2016 3:15:59 PM

The pronouncement that "cliche" is, in fact, an adjective can't be too far behind. (or it is "to")?

Last Edited: 3/7/2016 3:16:17 PM by Bobcatbob

rpbobcat
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 3/8/2016 11:09:55 AM

There's a piece in today's (3/08) The Post that the paper's Publishing Board voted to keep the same Editor in Chief for another year.

Just wonder if anyone out there knows if this has happened before.

I'm a cynic when it comes to The Post.But,from reading the article,I wonder if no one else wanted the job because of the change in format (digital vs print and weekly tabloid) coming next Fall.

shabamon
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 4/25/2016 11:51:53 AM

http://www.thepostathens.com/sports/top-sports-editors-de...

"And for it, he (Antonio Campbell) became the first player in Ohio program history to win MAC Player of the Year and receive AP All-American Honors since 2013."

I don't understand what this sentence is trying to say.

DelBobcat
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 4/25/2016 12:30:36 PM

Sounds like a bunch of kvetching by old fogies to me. They are students. If they already knew how to be good journalists they wouldn't need to go to journalism school. Give them some slack.

BA OHIO 2010, BS OHIO 2010, MA Delaware 2012

rpbobcat
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 4/25/2016 1:44:06 PM

DelBobcat wrote:

Sounds like a bunch of kvetching by old fogies to me. They are students. If they already knew how to be good journalists they wouldn't need to go to journalism school. Give them some slack.

No offense, but its not journalism,its basic English.

Bobcatbob
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 4/26/2016 9:32:05 AM

shabamon wrote:

Which one of you old fogies remembers how to diagram a sentence? I not much grammar do remember or syntax.

rpbobcat
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 4/26/2016 9:40:52 AM

Bobcatbob wrote:

shabamon wrote:

Which one of you old fogies remembers how to diagram a sentence? I not much grammar do remember or syntax.

"First player in Ohio program history" and "since 2013" sounds like a contradiction to me.

As far as diagramming a sentence.
I went to a Catholic Grammar School.
The nuns really stressed this to a point where I can still diagram a sentence in my sleep.

Pete Chouteau
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RE: Its The End Of The Post As We Know It

Posted: 4/27/2016 5:37:55 PM

Where were we? I was just chasing some kids off my lawn.

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