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I dislike over or under estimating the number of people at an event, based how the reporter feels about that group's cause. One of the things I do as a land surveyor is analyze aerial and terrestrial photographs. I looked at the photo using a template I use for this type of analysis. Came up with 220 people. More then the 100 The Post reported , but no where near the 700 who were supposed to attend. Based on the number of students, faculty and employees, it doesn't seem like this issue is resonating with that many people. As I also said in a previous post, I wonder how many of the 83 faculty members who signed the letter in The Post bothered to show up ? 220 pretty much shows that this barely extends outside of this year's Student Senate (who hates anything involving anyone with power) and a handful of others. Back to Top The Optimist     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 4/3/2015 8:31:50 AM  This Message was Deleted at 4/6/2015 10:47:39 AM Back to Top bn9     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 4/3/2015 8:49:57 AM  This Message was Deleted at 4/6/2015 10:48:09 AM Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,504 Status: Offline     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 4/3/2015 8:58:52 AM  I know you can say this is comparing apples to oranges but, some people are outraged over a 1.2 million dollar expenditure for a new residence for the president of a university. This week they published the compensation the Final Four coaches make. The Kentucky and Duke coaches could buy 4-5 of those houses, cash, every year. Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,306 Status: Offline     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 4/3/2015 10:55:52 AM  rpbobcat wrote: I know you can say this is comparing apples to oranges but, some people are outraged over a 1.2 million dollar expenditure for a new residence for the president of a university. This week they published the compensation the Final Four coaches make. The Kentucky and Duke coaches could buy 4-5 of those houses, cash, every year. Dingdingdingdingding! Back to Top ou79 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 644 Status: Offline     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 4/3/2015 4:06:17 PM  There was an article in this morning's Wheeling Intelligencer Newspaper about the protest and quoted one of the professors present at the rally about how the University is spending money improperly. Specifically the professor cited the recent completion of the IPF and the inference to be drawn from the quote is that the addition of the IPF for the football team (his words not mine) was proof that the University spent money needlessly and not on the professors or educating the students. Does someone really need to explain that the IPF was built with donations or is the so-called professor really that stupid and does not understand the meaning of the word "donation". Or, is that professor really that dishonest? Last Edited: 4/3/2015 4:10:17 PM by ou79 Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,023 Status: Offline     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 4/3/2015 4:41:06 PM  ou79 wrote: There was an article in this morning's Wheeling Intelligencer Newspaper about the protest and quoted one of the professors present at the rally about how the University is spending money improperly. Specifically the professor cited the recent completion of the IPF and the inference to be drawn from the quote is that the addition of the IPF for the football team (his words not mine) was proof that the University spent money needlessly and not on the professors or educating the students. Does someone really need to explain that the IPF was built with donations or is the so-called professor really that stupid and does not understand the meaning of the word "donation". Or, is that professor really that dishonest? He's neither stupid or dishonest. Part of the funds came from "donations" but from my experience with OU and another institution, donations are often solicited for a specific cause or project which means the institution has placed priorities on what they want to collect money for. Secondly, student fees are also being used to fund the facility. To that end, he was merely expressing his opinion based on his interpretation of the solicitation and giving of money. Nothing wrong with that. Back to Top ou79 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 644 Status: Offline     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 4/3/2015 6:30:16 PM  To build the facility the money came from donations. Those donations were given specifically for the IPF. Student fees may be used to help operate the facility like any other facility on campus, and the football team is not the only group using it. When I give a donation I will mark it for a specific purpose and I give because I want to support that specific project, not the general fund of the University. Otherwise, I do not give. So yes, to make the statements he did is either dishonest, misleading to the public, or just wrong. Back to Top ts1227 General User Member Since: 2/28/2006 Location: Tallmadge, OH Post Count: 853 Status: Offline     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 4/3/2015 8:06:29 PM  One could argue that it was a half truth, so it would be misleading to anyone ignorant to it all. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,023 Status: Offline     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 4/3/2015 8:34:48 PM  ou79 wrote: To build the facility the money came from donations. Those donations were given specifically for the IPF. Student fees may be used to help operate the facility like any other facility on campus, and the football team is not the only group using it. When I give a donation I will mark it for a specific purpose and I give because I want to support that specific project, not the general fund of the University. Otherwise, I do not give. So yes, to make the statements he did is either dishonest, misleading to the public, or just wrong. Thank you for making my points about giving to a specific lobbied for project. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,023 Status: Offline     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 4/3/2015 8:36:21 PM  ts1227 wrote: One could argue that it was a half truth, so it would be misleading to anyone ignorant to it all. Kind of like that field house the Tigers have in your neighborhood and the lack of IT resources they have in the same public school system. Shameful. Back to Top ts1227 General User Member Since: 2/28/2006 Location: Tallmadge, OH Post Count: 853 Status: Offline     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 4/3/2015 10:31:46 PM  Alan Swank wrote: ts1227 wrote: One could argue that it was a half truth, so it would be misleading to anyone ignorant to it all. Kind of like that field house the Tigers have in your neighborhood and the lack of IT resources they have in the same public school system. Shameful. Hey, they're ignorant by choice around here when it comes to football! I've only lived here a year and a half and have no kids, so I haven't had to deal with it yet. Back to Top ou79 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 644 Status: Offline     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 4/3/2015 11:52:36 PM  No Alan, his quote in today's newspaper article implied that the University used money that would otherwise be available to the University to build the IPF. Therefore, it sounded as if the University could have used that money for something else. People gave that money for the IPF. To insinuate otherwise is wrong. Last Edited: 4/3/2015 11:56:43 PM by ou79 Back to Top Donuts     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 4/5/2015 12:21:02 PM  This Message was Deleted at 4/6/2015 10:48:35 AM Back to Top Donuts General User Member Since: 9/22/2010 Post Count: 715 Status: Offline     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 4/30/2015 4:47:10 PM  Glad to see Wharton's PR team is in full effect on here. Better work on his first page of Google to fix those results. https://www.google.com/search?q=john+wharton+athens&ie=ut... Too bad one of his Athens cronies doesn't control the news for him on search engines. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,480 Status: Offline     RE: Bat protest    Posted: 5/3/2015 2:49:46 PM  Donuts wrote: Glad to see Wharton's PR team is in full effect on here. Better work on his first page of Google to fix those results. https://www.google.com/search?q=john+wharton+athens&ie=ut... Too bad one of his Athens cronies doesn't control the news for him on search engines. 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