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Topic: TOS to....Cincinnati

Topic: TOS to....Cincinnati

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cc-cat
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TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/3/2021 6:16:04 PM

Just a matter of time

Jeff McKinney
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/5/2021 3:59:55 PM

Their coaching search could be interesting.

OU_Country
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/6/2021 10:01:55 AM

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Their coaching search could be interesting.

For sure. I call them "My Dad's Bearcats" and grew up on UC basketball - but the situation there is no bueno. The sooner they cut bait on this one the better. At this point, I think it's about nothing more than figuring out how to pay no buyout, or negotiating the buyout down. The longer it drags, the worse this is going to be for them. And they need to sell tickets and put butts in seats next year to help pay for a mega-million arena reno that's only 3 years old.

(Of note, if you haven't been to the new Fifth Third Arena, I'd recommend it. Fantastic venue. Loud Venue.)

shabamon
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/6/2021 10:09:27 AM

OU_Country wrote:

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Their coaching search could be interesting.

Yeah, the reno is fantastic. What I like most is how more open concept it is. I feel like I'm still in the same room as the game when I'm in line for a beer.

OU_Country
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/6/2021 11:08:44 AM

shabamon wrote:

OU_Country wrote:

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Their coaching search could be interesting.

Yeah, the reno is fantastic. What I like most is how more open concept it is. I feel like I'm still in the same room as the game when I'm in line for a beer.

Agreed. I used to argue UD Arena was the best arena in Ohio. I'm not sure I agree with that anymore. Fifth Third gives it a run for it's money. They certainly did a dynamite job on it. In fairness, UD did as well on their reno.

GoCats105
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/6/2021 11:17:22 AM

shabamon wrote:

OU_Country wrote:

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Their coaching search could be interesting.

Yeah, the reno is fantastic. What I like most is how more open concept it is. I feel like I'm still in the same room as the game when I'm in line for a beer.

The architect was obviously watching a lot of HGTV and delivered on the "open concept" design.

OU_Country
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/9/2021 4:03:47 PM

cc-cat wrote:

Just a matter of time

The time is this afternoon. Official.

giacomo
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/9/2021 5:52:09 PM

Reminds me of when Danny Nee had a mass exodus at Nebraska. Brannen's buyout is 5.25M. I'll say it again, if I'm a UC alum don't be asking me for donations.

BOB&BEARCAT
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/9/2021 6:01:08 PM

Cheaper than the IU buyout

JSF
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/9/2021 7:48:54 PM

giacomo wrote:

I'll say it again, if I'm a UC alum don't be asking me for donations.

We know, and UC wouldn't care whether or not you want to donate anyway.

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giacomo
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/11/2021 8:38:50 AM

I guess you�re okay with a non profit organization paying millions to buy out a coach. Not to mention that athletics is not the core mission of a university.

Ohio69
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/11/2021 2:00:36 PM

giacomo wrote:

I guess you�re okay with a non profit organization paying millions to buy out a coach. Not to mention that athletics is not the core mission of a university.

If you are not, then you really can�t be a division I college sports fan. The pro sports are for you.

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

Pataskala
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/11/2021 2:46:46 PM

According to a January article Cincy athletics had a $7.7 million surplus last year, so the buyout would eat a big chunk of that. And who knows, maybe Cincy has a millionaire who wants a different coach and can throw money into the pot, like IU did. Also, Cincy has apparently made a "seven figure" offer that's less than the buyout; Brannen apparently rejected the offer.

Last Edited: 4/11/2021 2:48:24 PM by Pataskala

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JSF
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/11/2021 8:05:29 PM

giacomo wrote:

I guess you�re okay with a non profit organization paying millions to buy out a coach. Not to mention that athletics is not the core mission of a university.

Who said anything remotely close to that? Several professional organizations are non-profit, so I don�t think that argument holds water.

Big Willy
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/11/2021 11:12:50 PM

giacomo wrote:

I guess you�re okay with a non profit organization paying millions to buy out a coach. Not to mention that athletics is not the core mission of a university.

How do you know a bunch of wealthy donors aren't financing the buyout?

giacomo
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/12/2021 10:31:18 AM

Maybe they are. Still, it�s hypocritical and I�ll never understand it or support it.

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/12/2021 4:30:45 PM

This is the first open job this year that worries me as it relates to Boals.

A superior league, good history and facilities, last coach making 1.5 million annually -- basically a 3x raise on Boals' 581k, in a region Boals has recruited for a 15 years.

shabamon
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/12/2021 4:52:05 PM

It doesn't look like they will, or should, pursue Boals, but I am surprised that Dennis Gates is apparently a candidate and Jeff is not.

GoCats105
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/12/2021 5:17:27 PM

Hearing Erik Martin from WVU is the guy.

Taiwan BC
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/12/2021 9:52:40 PM

I remember Erik as a player from those UC teams with Van Exel and Cory Blount... The guy was an amazing rebounder and low post scorer for being 6�6� tall.... (Probably a bit shorter than that as well)

BillyTheCat
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/13/2021 9:00:49 AM

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:

Taking a coach like Boals from the MAC, would be beneath the level of their program as they see it.

cincybobcat99
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/13/2021 12:07:16 PM

Just one man�s opinion:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/blogs/daugherty-b... /

longtiimelurker
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/13/2021 12:40:12 PM

giacomo wrote:

Maybe they are. Still, it�s hypocritical and I�ll never understand it or support it.

Thanks for the latest take.

It is getting so we can read the top of a thread and know what the latest pearl ole' giacomo is going to drop on us. At least you are consistent. Stuck in a rut, refusing to listen to opposing ideas and always for your perceived little guy. The 2 percent of athletes that are recognizable need their money because they're getting screwed by the MAN. Screw the other 98 percent of athletes who won't go professional or depend on the money sports to fund their education and their sport's existence. There is a bigger picture out there that is not being addressed while we are changing everything to get less than one percent of all the NCAA's athletes "the pay they deserve". Focusing on the tree in front of you obscures the forest burning on the other side of the tree. You can only understand what you actually seek to understand.

Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/13/2021 1:51:59 PM

longtiimelurker wrote:

giacomo wrote:

Maybe they are. Still, it�s hypocritical and I�ll never understand it or support it.

How does allowing athletes who are able to earn off their image and likeness screw over athletes who can't earn money off of their image and likeness?

I'm not sure why we need to support a system where 2% of athletes, by your own admission, are being screwed when there's a simple fix that ensures no athletes are being screwed.

The NCAA defines amateurism and is in no way bound by the definition they created decades ago. They can simply alter what's allowable and let players accept endorsements and earn off of their likeness where applicable. How does that harm the other 98%?

lovebobcat
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RE: TOS to....Cincinnati

Posted: 4/13/2021 3:04:09 PM

cincybobcat99 wrote:

Just one man�s opinion:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/blogs/daugherty-b... /

I heard some podcasters (local journalists) here in Cincinnati also mentioning Boals as a possible candidate, though they seemed to think Gates checked the most boxes.

Can we put a rush on a contract extension/raise for Boals?

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