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Here’s some news for everyone: playing Little Sisters of the Poor doesn’t help you compete for a national championship. Howard and Rhode Island have not prepared us? Seems to work for Alabama. Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,624 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/8/2019 10:34:16 AM  Alabama is assumed to be in the top 5 at the beginning of every season. They have to prove they don’t belong. Almost all don’t have that luxury. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,285 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/8/2019 10:44:32 AM  Coach K comes out in favor: https://twitter.com/byDavidGardner/status/118158101061142... Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,624 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/8/2019 4:11:57 PM  That is interesting. I do believe the NCAA will wrap their arms around it. It will buy them a bunch of time to deflect the issue of paying players. And they still make their billions. Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 2,992 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/8/2019 4:41:23 PM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Coach K comes out in favor: https://twitter.com/byDavidGardner/status/118158101061142... Coach K must have secured promises for endorsement deals for whatever athletes he signs in the future.... ;) Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,285 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/8/2019 4:51:15 PM  Ohio69 wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Coach K comes out in favor: https://twitter.com/byDavidGardner/status/118158101061142... Coach K must have secured promises for endorsement deals for whatever athletes he signs in the future.... ;) I mean, it's a joke, but also sort of true. Look at the guys who have gotten big shoe deals lately after leaving Duke -- Kyrie, Zion, Jason Tatum -- all got deals with Nike (or Jordan, owned by Nike). And Duke's a Nike school. He knows who butters his bread. Back to Top JSF General User Member Since: 1/29/2005 Location: Houston, TX Post Count: 6,341 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/9/2019 12:04:36 AM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Coach K comes out in favor: https://twitter.com/byDavidGardner/status/118158101061142... And a domino falls. "Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season. My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8 Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,624 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/9/2019 2:55:54 PM  You must say that if you’re a high school guy like Zion Williamson, and you want to get the best deal on your likeness, you would go to the school/ league that had the most tv exposure. And what would be wrong with that? Coaches do that all the time. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,478 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/9/2019 5:37:40 PM  giacomo wrote: What does OSUs schedule have to do with the topic? Here’s some news for everyone: playing Little Sisters of the Poor doesn’t help you compete for a national championship. Again, you’ve missed Alabama’s non-league schedule Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,478 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/9/2019 5:38:51 PM  Back to the topic though, just wait until these endorsement deals are Cadillac’s and luxury apartments, or homes for families. Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,624 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/9/2019 6:44:39 PM  And what if they are? Compensation is compensation. Does anyone care if you get paid in coin of the realm or something else? It still would all be taxable. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,478 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/9/2019 6:50:04 PM  giacomo wrote: And what if they are? Compensation is compensation. Does anyone care if you get paid in coin of the realm or something else? It still would all be taxable. And exactly how are mid majors going to be able to play this game? Football or basketball, this is simply a power grab to separate the competition Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,285 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/9/2019 8:17:53 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: giacomo wrote: And what if they are? Compensation is compensation. Does anyone care if you get paid in coin of the realm or something else? It still would all be taxable. And exactly how are mid majors going to be able to play this game? Football or basketball, this is simply a power grab to separate the competition We are not currently eligible for a National Championship in Football. But by all means, let's deprive people of their right to earn money off of their talents and fame to preserve that sweet, sweet competitive balance. After all, if we go 13-0 four seasons in a row, maybe we'll get a playoff bid. Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,624 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/10/2019 10:14:31 PM  Mid majors aren’t really playing the game anyway. Except for a few money games. If you look at the top of the power five their facilities are better than the pros. Back to Top Kevin Finnegan General User Member Since: 2/4/2005 Location: Rockton, IL Post Count: 1,084 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/11/2019 12:35:22 PM  What P5/P6 schools do we really compete with for athletes? In football, I'd imagine it's Indiana, Boston College, Iowa State, Kansas, Pitt, and maybe a few other bottom-feeders of the P5 schools. In basketball, similarly it's Mississippi State, Penn State, Northwestern, Iowa State, and maybe a lower-tier Big 10/Big 12 school or two. These schools likely weren't going to be earning their athletes big endorsement dollars in those sports anyway. I'm not sure who we are losing competition to in this scenario. Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,624 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/14/2019 9:11:52 PM  https://www-cbssports-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.cbss... / Florida joins the party. Back to Top PalmerFest General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 398 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/15/2019 11:03:59 AM  If I were the NCAA, I would require each school to establish a fund that would be the repository for all money received from student athlete endorsement deals. That fund would then be divided amongst all the student athletes at the school and paid out equally to them each year. This would help with any Title 9/discrimination issues and takes away the incentive of donors "buying" star athletes. A star QB gets the same as the coed on the curling team. At the same time, all athletes would get some type of payment. Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,624 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/15/2019 11:48:53 AM  That might work at UVA (university of Venezuela). Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,478 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/15/2019 12:22:19 PM  PalmerFest wrote: If I were the NCAA, I would require each school to establish a fund that would be the repository for all money received from student athlete endorsement deals. That fund would then be divided amongst all the student athletes at the school and paid out equally to them each year. This would help with any Title 9/discrimination issues and takes away the incentive of donors "buying" star athletes. A star QB gets the same as the coed on the curling team. At the same time, all athletes would get some type of payment. Private outside endorsement monies would not be subject to Title IX Legislation Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,504 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/15/2019 1:22:27 PM  PalmerFest wrote: If I were the NCAA, I would require each school to establish a fund that would be the repository for all money received from student athlete endorsement deals. That fund would then be divided amongst all the student athletes at the school and paid out equally to them each year. This would help with any Title 9/discrimination issues and takes away the incentive of donors "buying" star athletes. A star QB gets the same as the coed on the curling team. At the same time, all athletes would get some type of payment. Financially this makes no sense to the player getting the endorsement deal. Based on the number of D1 sports at O.U. figure a total of somewhere around 350 D1 athletes. I sign an endorsement deal of ______ .I get 1/350th.of my endorsement money. While a _________ (insert any sport) gets the same. Why would I bother ? Back to Top PalmerFest General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 398 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/21/2019 10:50:51 AM  rpbobcat wrote: PalmerFest wrote: If I were the NCAA, I would require each school to establish a fund that would be the repository for all money received from student athlete endorsement deals. That fund would then be divided amongst all the student athletes at the school and paid out equally to them each year. This would help with any Title 9/discrimination issues and takes away the incentive of donors "buying" star athletes. A star QB gets the same as the coed on the curling team. At the same time, all athletes would get some type of payment. Financially this makes no sense to the player getting the endorsement deal. Based on the number of D1 sports at O.U. figure a total of somewhere around 350 D1 athletes. I sign an endorsement deal of ______ .I get 1/350th.of my endorsement money. While a _________ (insert any sport) gets the same. Why would I bother ? Exactly. This is what I would do if I were the NCAA who apparently doesn't want this type of activity. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,478 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/21/2019 4:09:10 PM  Some big time coaches are weighing in and they see big money coming from shoe contracts at the big level and shoe companies helping in recruiting of kids to “their schools”. Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,504 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/25/2019 6:41:07 AM  Add New jersey to the list of states in favor of this. Yesterday the state introduced legislation to allow it. The only D1 program we have in football is Rutgers. Don't see this impacting them at all. :-) Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/29/2019 2:45:19 PM  https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/27957981/n... It's happening. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'    Posted: 10/29/2019 2:56:15 PM  Makes you wonder how many kids are going to reopen their recruiting. 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