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Topic:  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/2/2019 12:57:22 PM 
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Much of this payment is cash even, and the question is who is going to educate the athletes on the taxes and how all of that works.


Yeah, wherever would we find an educational institution to educate these athletes?


Yeah, because those elite one and done basketball players you guys like to keep talking about take roughly 3-4 classes in there college cateer
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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/2/2019 1:29:38 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
I haven't been keeping up with this thread, so I'm not sure if this has been addressed yet. But is it possible that teams from states other than California might opt out of scheduling games v. teams from California because of unfair advantages?


Gene Gene the dancing machine says tosu won't play them. It's in today's Dispatch but I can't find the article to post.
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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/2/2019 9:07:56 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
SVAC83 wrote:
I think as long as the law is implemented in a way that is in consideration with the law and other NCAA rules. I don't think the law or anything will really change the college landscape we have a long way to go before we get there.

so let's say a Cleveland cavalier gets $5000 to show up at a car dealership and shake hands and sign autographs. No booster or anyone could pay a college player like $50k to do the same thing.

Every year there are what maybe 25 to 30 kids across the entire country that are going to be worth anyone paying huge dollars to. those kids right now are probably going to choose between 5 or 10 schools. so it is not like this is going to be a huge effect.



You over estimate the amount of cash that kids at big programs would get for card shows, and appearances at dealerships and malls. Friends of mine have made good five figure money the moment their eligibility runs out lining up for these events. Much of this payment is cash even, and the question is who is going to educate the athletes on the taxes and how all of that works.

You grossly underestimate the 25-30 kids across the country thing. The regional big boys will be paying 25-30 kids at their schools good money. Because the money is out there.



Right they get the money after they were in college not before I hey hit field and became a star. And I don’t think when you put pen to paper out there. There is going to be near the money so me people think. Because if these dollars start being used on players they are not going to make as many of donations. To schools. So met there is not going to be a lot more money out there.

The guys that are going to be stars yes. But what are we really saying in basketball your going to get your endorsement deal a year younger?

The biggest thing to Remember is unless these kids are going to turn around and cut the university in on there cash. They aren’t going to be able to be in uniform or show the school logo or anything


We will see what happens anything happening is a couple of years away anyway.
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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/2/2019 9:18:19 PM 
SVAC83 wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
SVAC83 wrote:
I think as long as the law is implemented in a way that is in consideration with the law and other NCAA rules. I don't think the law or anything will really change the college landscape we have a long way to go before we get there.

so let's say a Cleveland cavalier gets $5000 to show up at a car dealership and shake hands and sign autographs. No booster or anyone could pay a college player like $50k to do the same thing.

Every year there are what maybe 25 to 30 kids across the entire country that are going to be worth anyone paying huge dollars to. those kids right now are probably going to choose between 5 or 10 schools. so it is not like this is going to be a huge effect.



You over estimate the amount of cash that kids at big programs would get for card shows, and appearances at dealerships and malls. Friends of mine have made good five figure money the moment their eligibility runs out lining up for these events. Much of this payment is cash even, and the question is who is going to educate the athletes on the taxes and how all of that works.

You grossly underestimate the 25-30 kids across the country thing. The regional big boys will be paying 25-30 kids at their schools good money. Because the money is out there.



Right they get the money after they were in college not before I hey hit field and became a star. And I don’t think when you put pen to paper out there. There is going to be near the money so me people think. Because if these dollars start being used on players they are not going to make as many of donations. To schools. So met there is not going to be a lot more money out there.

The guys that are going to be stars yes. But what are we really saying in basketball your going to get your endorsement deal a year younger?

The biggest thing to Remember is unless these kids are going to turn around and cut the university in on there cash. They aren’t going to be able to be in uniform or show the school logo or anything


We will see what happens anything happening is a couple of years away anyway.


Well their donations are not tax deductible anymore so they do not mind that. Also the facilities will become less important compared to the compensation. You ever been inside NFL practice facilities and compared them to the Blue Bloods of college football? Not even close! Why? Because professionals care about the commas in their checks, not their lockerroom.
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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/2/2019 9:18:42 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
I haven't been keeping up with this thread, so I'm not sure if this has been addressed yet. But is it possible that teams from states other than California might opt out of scheduling games v. teams from California because of unfair advantages?


Gene Gene the dancing machine says tosu won't play them. It's in today's Dispatch but I can't find the article to post.



And why would you?
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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/2/2019 10:22:05 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:

Gene Gene the dancing machine says tosu won't play them. It's in today's Dispatch but I can't find the article to post.


Guess he won’t play Duke or Kentucky since they do that one and done thing that will also be the death of the college game.

on al seriousness the law in CA doesn’t start until 2023. anyone who doesn’t think it will be adopted by most states (NC already in committee) or at federal level (already being moved on) in the near future is living in the past.
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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/3/2019 10:50:22 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Much of this payment is cash even, and the question is who is going to educate the athletes on the taxes and how all of that works.


Yeah, wherever would we find an educational institution to educate these athletes?


Yeah, because those elite one and done basketball players you guys like to keep talking about take roughly 3-4 classes in there college cateer


This is an argument in favor of education as sufficient compensation?
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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/3/2019 11:14:42 AM 
The equation is clear. You have two students.

Student A (Susan) is on a full academic scholarship - Compensated by the University for her efforts in the classroom. Beyond brains she is beautiful. She is also involved in a number of volunteer organizations on campus. Very popular. A restaurant in town asks her to be part of an ad campaign. "Paul's Restaurant - Where students like Susan hang out." They pay her $500 - she does the ad.

Student B is Nathan Rourke - on a full athletic scholarship. Compensated by the University for his efforts on playing field. He's successful on the field and in class. Very well known. Very, Very popular - even more so than Susan. A restaurant in town asks him to be part of an ad campaign. "Paul's Restaurant - Where students like Nathan hang out." They offer him $2500 (because he is much more popular than Susan) - The NCAA and the University tell him he is not allowed to do the ad. Paul's says (despite being much more popular) they will pay him what they pay Susan. He is still not allowed to do the ad.

In both and all cases, the University is not paying the student any additional money beyond their scholarship. The free market (capitalism) is. Yet only one student is permitted to be a capitalist.

With the CA laws (and others to follow) this will change.
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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/3/2019 11:20:52 AM 
cc-cat wrote:
The equation is clear. You have two students.

Student A (Susan) is on a full academic scholarship - Compensated by the University for her efforts in the classroom. Beyond brains she is beautiful. She is also involved in a number of volunteer organizations on campus. Very popular. A restaurant in town asks her to be part of an ad campaign. "Paul's Restaurant - Where students like Susan hang out." They pay her $500 - she does the ad.

Student B is Nathan Rourke - on a full athletic scholarship. Compensated by the University for his efforts on playing field. He's successful on the field and in class. Very well known. Very, Very popular - even more so than Susan. A restaurant in town asks him to be part of an ad campaign. "Paul's Restaurant - Where students like Nathan hang out." They offer him $2500 (because he is much more popular than Susan) - The NCAA and the University tell him he is not allowed to do the ad. Paul's says (despite being much more popular) they will pay him what they pay Susan. He is still not allowed to do the ad.

In both and all cases, the University is not paying the student any additional money beyond their scholarship. The free market (capitalism) is. Yet only one student is permitted to be a capitalist.

With the CA laws (and others to follow) this will change.



Exception, Susan does not also get a stipend based on total cost of attendance.
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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/3/2019 11:23:16 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
cc-cat wrote:
The equation is clear. You have two students.

Student A (Susan) is on a full academic scholarship - Compensated by the University for her efforts in the classroom. Beyond brains she is beautiful. She is also involved in a number of volunteer organizations on campus. Very popular. A restaurant in town asks her to be part of an ad campaign. "Paul's Restaurant - Where students like Susan hang out." They pay her $500 - she does the ad.

Student B is Nathan Rourke - on a full athletic scholarship. Compensated by the University for his efforts on playing field. He's successful on the field and in class. Very well known. Very, Very popular - even more so than Susan. A restaurant in town asks him to be part of an ad campaign. "Paul's Restaurant - Where students like Nathan hang out." They offer him $2500 (because he is much more popular than Susan) - The NCAA and the University tell him he is not allowed to do the ad. Paul's says (despite being much more popular) they will pay him what they pay Susan. He is still not allowed to do the ad.

In both and all cases, the University is not paying the student any additional money beyond their scholarship. The free market (capitalism) is. Yet only one student is permitted to be a capitalist.

With the CA laws (and others to follow) this will change.



Exception, Susan does not also get a stipend based on total cost of attendance.


Good point - that's part of the solution. If Nathan or any athlete accepts money then they forfeit their stipend. Thanks for pointing that out. Makes sense.

We make those decision all the time. I have a job. Someone offers 10% more - but I'd be on the road all the time. No thanks. I have a job. Someone offers me 5% more but it involves much more work and limited advancement. No thanks. The player can have the option of a stipend. No thanks, I'll stick with the stipend or, I'll forfeit the stipend (saving the University money), and take the endorsement money.

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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/3/2019 1:13:24 PM 
cc-cat wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
cc-cat wrote:
The equation is clear. You have two students.

Student A (Susan) is on a full academic scholarship - Compensated by the University for her efforts in the classroom. Beyond brains she is beautiful. She is also involved in a number of volunteer organizations on campus. Very popular. A restaurant in town asks her to be part of an ad campaign. "Paul's Restaurant - Where students like Susan hang out." They pay her $500 - she does the ad.

Student B is Nathan Rourke - on a full athletic scholarship. Compensated by the University for his efforts on playing field. He's successful on the field and in class. Very well known. Very, Very popular - even more so than Susan. A restaurant in town asks him to be part of an ad campaign. "Paul's Restaurant - Where students like Nathan hang out." They offer him $2500 (because he is much more popular than Susan) - The NCAA and the University tell him he is not allowed to do the ad. Paul's says (despite being much more popular) they will pay him what they pay Susan. He is still not allowed to do the ad.

In both and all cases, the University is not paying the student any additional money beyond their scholarship. The free market (capitalism) is. Yet only one student is permitted to be a capitalist.

With the CA laws (and others to follow) this will change.



Exception, Susan does not also get a stipend based on total cost of attendance.


Good point - that's part of the solution. If Nathan or any athlete accepts money then they forfeit their stipend. Thanks for pointing that out. Makes sense.

We make those decision all the time. I have a job. Someone offers 10% more - but I'd be on the road all the time. No thanks. I have a job. Someone offers me 5% more but it involves much more work and limited advancement. No thanks. The player can have the option of a stipend. No thanks, I'll stick with the stipend or, I'll forfeit the stipend (saving the University money), and take the endorsement money.


Did I miss something? Is that in the law that if a student athlete takes an endorsement deal then they forfeit the extra stipend? or is that your solution? Stipends are a perfect example, some can pay more legally to their athletes. This is all just a tool to legalize cheating by using the disenfranchised to push an agenda. Just my $.02
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   Posted: 10/3/2019 1:28:04 PM 
Only one bill has been passed - others are looking at it and deciding how to proceed - improving - presenting their version of the bill as it goes - your stipend issue is one that should be on the table. Yes - some folks will cheat - shocking - but we should not penalize the athlete because others (boosters) can now provide money over the table instead of under it.

Nathan should have the same open market rights as Susan - I'm not sure how anyone can dispute that.

The NCAA and institutions needs to take this opportunity to figure out how to craft/accommodate this movement going forward - it is not going away, nor "back." They cannot simply stand in the sand and say, "OMG this is the end of the sport." And refusing to play teams from said states (CA and soon to be others) is a great headline grabber, but not realistic. The one thing that is absolute is you will not end up with teams from these states (NC, FLA, CA, etc.) in one "division" and teams from other states (OH, AL, etc.) in another "division."

2023 at the latest - FLA looking to enact law in next 18 months. "Free Nathan!!!!"
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   Posted: 10/3/2019 2:49:25 PM 
I, for one, feel that if this law can bring back EA's NCAA Football, then this is a major win for all involved.
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   Posted: 10/3/2019 9:24:49 PM 
cc-cat wrote:
Only one bill has been passed - others are looking at it and deciding how to proceed - improving - presenting their version of the bill as it goes - your stipend issue is one that should be on the table. Yes - some folks will cheat - shocking - but we should not penalize the athlete because others (boosters) can now provide money over the table instead of under it.

Nathan should have the same open market rights as Susan - I'm not sure how anyone can dispute that.

The NCAA and institutions needs to take this opportunity to figure out how to craft/accommodate this movement going forward - it is not going away, nor "back." They cannot simply stand in the sand and say, "OMG this is the end of the sport." And refusing to play teams from said states (CA and soon to be others) is a great headline grabber, but not realistic. The one thing that is absolute is you will not end up with teams from these states (NC, FLA, CA, etc.) in one "division" and teams from other states (OH, AL, etc.) in another "division."

2023 at the latest - FLA looking to enact law in next 18 months. "Free Nathan!!!!"


How many Susan’s get endorsement deals for anything? And athletes can have jobs, which include modeling.
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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/4/2019 7:46:31 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
I haven't been keeping up with this thread, so I'm not sure if this has been addressed yet. But is it possible that teams from states other than California might opt out of scheduling games v. teams from California because of unfair advantages?


Gene Gene the dancing machine says tosu won't play them. It's in today's Dispatch but I can't find the article to post.



And why would you?


Because in football anyway, he won't play anyone that he doesn't have to.
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   Posted: 10/4/2019 7:48:49 AM 
cc-cat wrote:
The equation is clear. You have two students.

Student A (Susan) is on a full academic scholarship - Compensated by the University for her efforts in the classroom. Beyond brains she is beautiful. She is also involved in a number of volunteer organizations on campus. Very popular. A restaurant in town asks her to be part of an ad campaign. "Paul's Restaurant - Where students like Susan hang out." They pay her $500 - she does the ad.

Student B is Nathan Rourke - on a full athletic scholarship. Compensated by the University for his efforts on playing field. He's successful on the field and in class. Very well known. Very, Very popular - even more so than Susan. A restaurant in town asks him to be part of an ad campaign. "Paul's Restaurant - Where students like Nathan hang out." They offer him $2500 (because he is much more popular than Susan) - The NCAA and the University tell him he is not allowed to do the ad. Paul's says (despite being much more popular) they will pay him what they pay Susan. He is still not allowed to do the ad.

In both and all cases, the University is not paying the student any additional money beyond their scholarship. The free market (capitalism) is. Yet only one student is permitted to be a capitalist.

With the CA laws (and others to follow) this will change.



Big difference. Sports aren't a core part of the university's mission. Education is.
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   Posted: 10/4/2019 10:01:48 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
How many Susan’s get endorsement deals for anything? And athletes can have jobs, which include modeling.


Very few Susan’s get endorsement deals because our society doesn’t value academics as much as we do athletics (ever been on the Ohio Engineering Chat Site?). Yes, athletes can have jobs (hours permitting) and they can model - as long as the modeling deal was signed before becoming an NCAA athlete. Then NCAA bylaw called "Continuation of Modeling and Other Non-athletically Related Promotional Activities After Enrollment." requires an athete to have become involved in modeling for non-athletic reasons; forbids any reference to his/her name or involvement in college sports while modeling; doesn't allow him/her to endorse the commercial product; and requires that he/she get paid at a rate comparable to his skills and experience as a model.

Of course, my example was not modeling – it was for endorsement (per your comment).

Alan Swank wrote:

Big difference. Sports aren't a core part of the university's mission. Education is.


While not written into their mission, I think we all appreciate that at OSU, Alabama, etc. sports is a core part of their culture. But this law is not asking the institutions to change their mission. This has to do with the individual making money off the field…off the campus.


Again, the NCAA needs to get themselves at the table, and not just to say, "if they want extra money, there is a McDonalds near every campus" or cry out that this will "allow the boosters that are paying cash to these kids under the table to now be able to do it in the open - there will be corruption."

These athletes have a special skill set and value to the open market. They deserve to realize that potential. Yes, there need to be guidelines and restrictions (endorse alcohol, tobacco, gambling sites, etc.). I doubt the NCAA wants to leave the process of defining the fine print to politicians.

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   Posted: 10/4/2019 11:00:29 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
I haven't been keeping up with this thread, so I'm not sure if this has been addressed yet. But is it possible that teams from states other than California might opt out of scheduling games v. teams from California because of unfair advantages?


Gene Gene the dancing machine says tosu won't play them. It's in today's Dispatch but I can't find the article to post.



And why would you?


Because in football anyway, he won't play anyone that he doesn't have to.



I guess someone made Gene schedule those games.

2014 - VT
2015 - @ VT
2016 - @ Oklahoma
2018 - TCU
2020 - @ Oregon
2021 - Oregon
2022 - @ ND
2023 - ND
2024 - @ Washington
2025 - @ Texas
2026 - Texas
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cc-cat wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
How many Susan’s get endorsement deals for anything? And athletes can have jobs, which include modeling.


Very few Susan’s get endorsement deals because our society doesn’t value academics as much as we do athletics (ever been on the Ohio Engineering Chat Site?). Yes, athletes can have jobs (hours permitting) and they can model - as long as the modeling deal was signed before becoming an NCAA athlete. Then NCAA bylaw called "Continuation of Modeling and Other Non-athletically Related Promotional Activities After Enrollment." requires an athete to have become involved in modeling for non-athletic reasons; forbids any reference to his/her name or involvement in college sports while modeling; doesn't allow him/her to endorse the commercial product; and requires that he/she get paid at a rate comparable to his skills and experience as a model.

Of course, my example was not modeling – it was for endorsement (per your comment).

Alan Swank wrote:

Big difference. Sports aren't a core part of the university's mission. Education is.


While not written into their mission, I think we all appreciate that at OSU, Alabama, etc. sports is a core part of their culture. But this law is not asking the institutions to change their mission. This has to do with the individual making money off the field…off the campus.


Again, the NCAA needs to get themselves at the table, and not just to say, "if they want extra money, there is a McDonalds near every campus" or cry out that this will "allow the boosters that are paying cash to these kids under the table to now be able to do it in the open - there will be corruption."

These athletes have a special skill set and value to the open market. They deserve to realize that potential. Yes, there need to be guidelines and restrictions (endorse alcohol, tobacco, gambling sites, etc.). I doubt the NCAA wants to leave the process of defining the fine print to politicians.


Let this take hold and then give this a couple years and see what is happening.
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   Posted: 10/5/2019 3:23:46 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
I haven't been keeping up with this thread, so I'm not sure if this has been addressed yet. But is it possible that teams from states other than California might opt out of scheduling games v. teams from California because of unfair advantages?


Gene Gene the dancing machine says tosu won't play them. It's in today's Dispatch but I can't find the article to post.



And why would you?


Because in football anyway, he won't play anyone that he doesn't have to.



I guess someone made Gene schedule those games.

2014 - VT
2015 - @ VT
2016 - @ Oklahoma
2018 - TCU
2020 - @ Oregon
2021 - Oregon
2022 - @ ND
2023 - ND
2024 - @ Washington
2025 - @ Texas
2026 - Texas


Not many top 10 teams in that group and not one SEC school.
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   Posted: 10/5/2019 4:04:04 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
I haven't been keeping up with this thread, so I'm not sure if this has been addressed yet. But is it possible that teams from states other than California might opt out of scheduling games v. teams from California because of unfair advantages?


Gene Gene the dancing machine says tosu won't play them. It's in today's Dispatch but I can't find the article to post.



And why would you?


Because in football anyway, he won't play anyone that he doesn't have to.



I guess someone made Gene schedule those games.

2014 - VT
2015 - @ VT
2016 - @ Oklahoma
2018 - TCU
2020 - @ Oregon
2021 - Oregon
2022 - @ ND
2023 - ND
2024 - @ Washington
2025 - @ Texas
2026 - Texas






2017 and 2019 seem to be missing and not one SEC school in that 13 year period.

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   Posted: 10/5/2019 6:13:27 PM 
After much hypocritical hand wringing, look for the ncaa to allow this to happen. It will further cement their stance on not paying players. It will keep them using players likeness to make billions on TV revenue. They will go kicking and screaming, but they like it.
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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/6/2019 7:05:51 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
I haven't been keeping up with this thread, so I'm not sure if this has been addressed yet. But is it possible that teams from states other than California might opt out of scheduling games v. teams from California because of unfair advantages?


Gene Gene the dancing machine says tosu won't play them. It's in today's Dispatch but I can't find the article to post.



And why would you?


Because in football anyway, he won't play anyone that he doesn't have to.



I guess someone made Gene schedule those games.

2014 - VT
2015 - @ VT
2016 - @ Oklahoma
2018 - TCU
2020 - @ Oregon
2021 - Oregon
2022 - @ ND
2023 - ND
2024 - @ Washington
2025 - @ Texas
2026 - Texas


Not many top 10 teams in that group and not one SEC school.



ND top 10, Oklahoma was a playoff team, TCU was coming off top 10. Washington has been top 10 as resettle as their beat down by OSU in the bowl.
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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/6/2019 7:06:50 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
I haven't been keeping up with this thread, so I'm not sure if this has been addressed yet. But is it possible that teams from states other than California might opt out of scheduling games v. teams from California because of unfair advantages?


Gene Gene the dancing machine says tosu won't play them. It's in today's Dispatch but I can't find the article to post.



And why would you?


Because in football anyway, he won't play anyone that he doesn't have to.



I guess someone made Gene schedule those games.

2014 - VT
2015 - @ VT
2016 - @ Oklahoma
2018 - TCU
2020 - @ Oregon
2021 - Oregon
2022 - @ ND
2023 - ND
2024 - @ Washington
2025 - @ Texas
2026 - Texas






2017 and 2019 seem to be missing and not one SEC school in that 13 year period.



Yeah because Alabama couldn’t clear the FCS team off their schedule
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giacomo
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  Message Not Read  RE: USA Today: NCAA sends California governor letter calling name, likeness bill 'unconstitutional'
   Posted: 10/6/2019 7:35:44 PM 
What does OSUs schedule have to do with the topic? Here’s some news for everyone: playing Little Sisters of the Poor doesn’t help you compete for a national championship.
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