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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Miami (OH)
   Posted: 2/9/2019 10:23:17 PM 
cbus cat fan wrote:
Gman wrote:
SBH wrote:
cbus cat fan wrote:
Simon Cowell of American Idol fame once said the reason he was so ruthless with awful singers was due to the wasted years and money many of those singers spent. He felt if he could get them into a line of work which more suited their talents and abilities, he would have done his good deed for the week. There is no leadership on our Bobcat team, the coaching staff, exhibited by Coach Phillips comments in the post game show, seems to be as exasperated as the fans and at a complete loss on what to do. Yet, that is the coaching staff's job. We have talked ad nauseam concerning how Coach Danny Nee, the late Coach Rick Majerus and the late Charlie Coles, did far more with less than talent than our team possesses. I am not sure if Simon Cowell is a sports fan, but he did have a good point with bad singers, perhaps there is a corollary with team leadership and coaching.


Danny Nee had less talent than this team? What are you smoking?

BTW, it's possible Saul has won his last game at Ohio.


Yeah Nee's no talent teams won 2 MAC Tournament Titles in his 6 years, Ohio won over 80 games in Nee's last 4 seasons as Ohio's HC. Then on to Nebraska not to bad for a coach with no talent.

Nee was loaded !!



Not sure how young you guys are so I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt. I am going to be polite as I can since I am sure I have forgotten more Bobcat history than you probably know. Coach Nee inherited very little talent. He built the program. Please read my posts more carefully and or study your Bobcat history. I was there for the games, and have posted extensively on them.



Danny Nee acquired a team from Dale Bandy that went 8 & 18 the year before, Bandy had 1 winning season in 6 years at Ohio, Nee's 1st recruiting class was John Deveaux, Nate Cole and Sean Carlson, his 2nd class consisted of Big Victor Alexander, Eddie Hicks and Rick Scarberry, It took 2 years of good recruiting for Nee to get the piece's in place to turn Ohio into a winner, Nee won 87 games his last 4 years, but what do I know about Ohio Basketball history I just been attending games since back in the Snyder days, so I really know nothing, I just watch them run up and down the floor.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Miami (OH)
   Posted: 2/9/2019 10:45:56 PM 
Gman wrote:
cbus cat fan wrote:
Gman wrote:
SBH wrote:
cbus cat fan wrote:
Simon Cowell of American Idol fame once said the reason he was so ruthless with awful singers was due to the wasted years and money many of those singers spent. He felt if he could get them into a line of work which more suited their talents and abilities, he would have done his good deed for the week. There is no leadership on our Bobcat team, the coaching staff, exhibited by Coach Phillips comments in the post game show, seems to be as exasperated as the fans and at a complete loss on what to do. Yet, that is the coaching staff's job. We have talked ad nauseam concerning how Coach Danny Nee, the late Coach Rick Majerus and the late Charlie Coles, did far more with less than talent than our team possesses. I am not sure if Simon Cowell is a sports fan, but he did have a good point with bad singers, perhaps there is a corollary with team leadership and coaching.


Danny Nee had less talent than this team? What are you smoking?

BTW, it's possible Saul has won his last game at Ohio.


Yeah Nee's no talent teams won 2 MAC Tournament Titles in his 6 years, Ohio won over 80 games in Nee's last 4 seasons as Ohio's HC. Then on to Nebraska not to bad for a coach with no talent.

Nee was loaded !!



Not sure how young you guys are so I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt. I am going to be polite as I can since I am sure I have forgotten more Bobcat history than you probably know. Coach Nee inherited very little talent. He built the program. Please read my posts more carefully and or study your Bobcat history. I was there for the games, and have posted extensively on them.



Danny Nee acquired a team from Dale Bandy that went 8 & 18 the year before, Bandy had 1 winning season in 6 years at Ohio, Nee's 1st recruiting class was John Deveaux, Nate Cole and Sean Carlson, his 2nd class consisted of Big Victor Alexander, Eddie Hicks and Rick Scarberry, It took 2 years of good recruiting for Nee to get the piece's in place to turn Ohio into a winner, Nee won 87 games his last 4 years, but what do I know about Ohio Basketball history I just been attending games since back in the Snyder days, so I really know nothing, I just watch them run up and down the floor.



Gman and SBH, is this some sort of mind game you two are playing? You said it yourself, Coach Danny Nee recruited the very people that elevated the program. At the end of the Coach Bandy era, the program had really fallen from the lofty heights left by Coach Synder. Coach Nee elevated it. The cupboard was bare when he arrived! Again, Coach Phillips has far more talent than the team that was left for Coach Rick Majerus at Ball State when he arrived in Muncie. Yet, Coach Majerus took those same supposed duds from the team he inherited that went 14-14 his first year and they went 29-3 his second year. The complete opposite of what Coach Phillips has done. Again, if the late Coach Majerus and Coach Charlie Coles were alive they would have done far more with this Bobcat squad than has been done by the current coaching staff.

This is precisely why I used the Simon Cowell American Idol analogy. The current coaching staff is in over their heads, much like a singer who tries to sing something they can't in front of a national audience. It doesn't mean they are bad people, but this just isn't their calling, which is why Simon Cowell said it is better to be blunt when people are in over their heads because they have already wasted enough time and money. They need to do something else.

Coach Phillips might have been able to steer the ship forever in North Dakota, because of low expectations. However when he left North Dakota and went into uncharted waters, he was literally lost at sea. Short of going back to North Dakota, I just don't think it is going to work for him. Again, as has been said here time and time again, he is a very good man, but he can't seem to motivate his team and make on the fly adjustments in real game time. These are two vital components if you want to win.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Miami (OH)
   Posted: 2/9/2019 11:02:47 PM 
cbus cat fan wrote:
Gman wrote:
cbus cat fan wrote:
Gman wrote:
SBH wrote:
cbus cat fan wrote:
Simon Cowell of American Idol fame once said the reason he was so ruthless with awful singers was due to the wasted years and money many of those singers spent. He felt if he could get them into a line of work which more suited their talents and abilities, he would have done his good deed for the week. There is no leadership on our Bobcat team, the coaching staff, exhibited by Coach Phillips comments in the post game show, seems to be as exasperated as the fans and at a complete loss on what to do. Yet, that is the coaching staff's job. We have talked ad nauseam concerning how Coach Danny Nee, the late Coach Rick Majerus and the late Charlie Coles, did far more with less than talent than our team possesses. I am not sure if Simon Cowell is a sports fan, but he did have a good point with bad singers, perhaps there is a corollary with team leadership and coaching.


Danny Nee had less talent than this team? What are you smoking?

BTW, it's possible Saul has won his last game at Ohio.


Yeah Nee's no talent teams won 2 MAC Tournament Titles in his 6 years, Ohio won over 80 games in Nee's last 4 seasons as Ohio's HC. Then on to Nebraska not to bad for a coach with no talent.

Nee was loaded !!



Not sure how young you guys are so I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt. I am going to be polite as I can since I am sure I have forgotten more Bobcat history than you probably know. Coach Nee inherited very little talent. He built the program. Please read my posts more carefully and or study your Bobcat history. I was there for the games, and have posted extensively on them.



Danny Nee acquired a team from Dale Bandy that went 8 & 18 the year before, Bandy had 1 winning season in 6 years at Ohio, Nee's 1st recruiting class was John Deveaux, Nate Cole and Sean Carlson, his 2nd class consisted of Big Victor Alexander, Eddie Hicks and Rick Scarberry, It took 2 years of good recruiting for Nee to get the piece's in place to turn Ohio into a winner, Nee won 87 games his last 4 years, but what do I know about Ohio Basketball history I just been attending games since back in the Snyder days, so I really know nothing, I just watch them run up and down the floor.



Short of going back to North Dakota, I just don't think it is going to work for him. Again, as has been said here time and time again, he is a very good man, but he can't seem to motivate his team and make on the fly adjustments in real game time. These are two vital components if you want to win.


I agree with this when discussing Saul's future. I don't know where he goes from here to try and get a head coaching job. If it happens, it will be much lower than the MAC. I don't know how an Athletic Director sells Saul's last 5 years to another fanbase. Hope it works out for him, but my guess, to stay in the game next year it might very well have to be as a Power 5 Conference assistant coach.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Miami (OH)
   Posted: 2/9/2019 11:07:58 PM 
Gman wrote:
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
Pete Chouteau wrote:
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A first for me really. Going to this game tomorrow given it's proximity. I plan on sitting at the top of the Millet Hall joke arena because I am not sure how to cheer for my own Alma Mater. We have fallen to a level not seen for 30 ish' years. Oh well - off a bleed GREEN MF'er goes. No fair weather fans allowed.


Does "The wilderness Campaign" ring a bell? We were 5-21 in 98. DIDN'T EVEN FIRE ANYONE!

I do not understand the venom on this board. Maybe I'm oversensitive to it, because I've found myself in a job where it wasn't working out, and I tried to make it work until the minute I was asked not to come back again, and that's what I see here. We've got a nice guy for a coach -- probably too nice -- and it's not working out and when the contract expires so does his tenure and yeah that's a crappy way for it to go but that's the way it went.

Perhaps it's a straw man argument, but everything else in this world is going to shit and y'all want to douse the nice guy in gasoline.

Look in a goddamn mirror and Muck Fiami.


This is exactly where Im at too, Pete. I realize Saul makes a kings ransom, earns more than I will ever dare hope. So what? Hes a good man whos family and wife especially have been through a lot. Like all of you, I wished it would have worked out.



Oh the 5 & 21 team of 97, Ohio's starting PG Corey Reed went down with a season ending knee injury at Kent the 5th game of the season and it was all down hill from there. Larry Hunter was the Coach, but the next 3 years Ohio won 18, 20, & 19 games. (Larry's 12 yrs he had 2 losing seasons) but it wasn't enough and Hunter was fired. Saul is a nice guy but he gets paid BIG $$$ for winning basketball games, compare Hunters salary to Phillips, its a huge difference.


Saul is just gonna have to walk his puppy in the park somewhere else, it just didn't work out.



LOL. You say Reed went down and was out. I guess Dartis and Gollon don't count this year. As far as salary comparisons between Hunter and Phillips.. maybe, just maybe you need to look at the time lapse and change in salaries between 1997 and 2019 . I mean it's only 20+ years.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Miami (OH)
   Posted: 2/9/2019 11:43:51 PM 
Jerry86 wrote:
Gman wrote:
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
Pete Chouteau wrote:
Diamond Cat wrote:
A first for me really. Going to this game tomorrow given it's proximity. I plan on sitting at the top of the Millet Hall joke arena because I am not sure how to cheer for my own Alma Mater. We have fallen to a level not seen for 30 ish' years. Oh well - off a bleed GREEN MF'er goes. No fair weather fans allowed.


Does "The wilderness Campaign" ring a bell? We were 5-21 in 98. DIDN'T EVEN FIRE ANYONE!

I do not understand the venom on this board. Maybe I'm oversensitive to it, because I've found myself in a job where it wasn't working out, and I tried to make it work until the minute I was asked not to come back again, and that's what I see here. We've got a nice guy for a coach -- probably too nice -- and it's not working out and when the contract expires so does his tenure and yeah that's a crappy way for it to go but that's the way it went.

Perhaps it's a straw man argument, but everything else in this world is going to shit and y'all want to douse the nice guy in gasoline.

Look in a goddamn mirror and Muck Fiami.


This is exactly where Im at too, Pete. I realize Saul makes a kings ransom, earns more than I will ever dare hope. So what? Hes a good man whos family and wife especially have been through a lot. Like all of you, I wished it would have worked out.



Oh the 5 & 21 team of 97, Ohio's starting PG Corey Reed went down with a season ending knee injury at Kent the 5th game of the season and it was all down hill from there. Larry Hunter was the Coach, but the next 3 years Ohio won 18, 20, & 19 games. (Larry's 12 yrs he had 2 losing seasons) but it wasn't enough and Hunter was fired. Saul is a nice guy but he gets paid BIG $$$ for winning basketball games, compare Hunters salary to Phillips, its a huge difference.


Saul is just gonna have to walk his puppy in the park somewhere else, it just didn't work out.



LOL. You say Reed went down and was out. I guess Dartis and Gollon don't count this year. As far as salary comparisons between Hunter and Phillips.. maybe, just maybe you need to look at the time lapse and change in salaries between 1997 and 2019 . I mean it's only 20+ years.



Jerry if you know basketball each team is different, Corey Reed made that team go, Not a big scorer but he pushed the ball up the floor, when he went down so did the Offense, Back 20 years ago not much pressure on coaches to win like there is now, Larry had lots of winning seasons a New AD was his down fall, Saul's contract money and wins over 5 years is enough said for his departure plus his piss poor recruiting. Ohio Basketball has gone backwards since Saul has been here

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Miami (OH)
   Posted: 2/10/2019 7:04:14 AM 
GroverBall wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
GroverBall wrote:
Down 20 at half, Cats now down 6 and we have a ball game. Chat roomers have disappeared, here's betting if we lose many will be back at the end to complain.

GO BOBCATS!


I wasn't in the chat room for this game, too busy trying to watch the women and men at the same time, and I didn't really want to hear all the crap that regularly goes on there. I assume your prediction was true that the lynch mob was back by the end of the game.


Actually, full crow here, they never showed up and commented. A handful checked in but checked back out without comment. While the lack of the snarky, same old piling on and blame was a welcome development, I'm afraid it's another indicator that the program is at a low point. Chat Room has not been popular the last few road games.


And you summed up the Saul era perfectly. He is the Ho Hummest coach of the last 25 years. We are now at the point where most of us are bored with it. I listened to the game (ho hum). We have Wight and McDay coming (ho hum). We have 2 road wins (ho hum). The message board is now a fighting ground for everyone who has a singular love of Ohio University (ho hum). Torey James played finally (ho hum). This blah feeling about Bobcat hoops is on Saul and shame on him for setting us back.
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   Posted: 2/10/2019 11:46:51 AM 
Not sure theres as much disagreement here as it might seem about Nee's recruitng. Nee had little talent when he arrived. Even John Devereaux was raw, not ready for prime time. Heck, I believe he only first played ball in the middle of high school. Nee once said his worst decision ever was to play John his first year. But could Nee see and recruit talent? John became POY in the MAC before he left, then had a great career in Europe. And Nee recruited Vic Alexander, and Snoopy Graham, the all time leading scorer here before Jamerson broke it. And Snoopy had some good years in the NBA. And Danny recruited Jamerson too, 1st round NBA pick. And lets not forget Paul Baron, Robert Tatum, Big John Rhodes. Danny won 20+ games his last 4 years here when that meant more than it does today.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Miami (OH)
   Posted: 2/11/2019 10:34:30 AM 
Bobcat1998 wrote:
GroverBall wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
GroverBall wrote:
Down 20 at half, Cats now down 6 and we have a ball game. Chat roomers have disappeared, here's betting if we lose many will be back at the end to complain.

GO BOBCATS!


I wasn't in the chat room for this game, too busy trying to watch the women and men at the same time, and I didn't really want to hear all the crap that regularly goes on there. I assume your prediction was true that the lynch mob was back by the end of the game.


Actually, full crow here, they never showed up and commented. A handful checked in but checked back out without comment. While the lack of the snarky, same old piling on and blame was a welcome development, I'm afraid it's another indicator that the program is at a low point. Chat Room has not been popular the last few road games.


And you summed up the Saul era perfectly. He is the Ho Hummest coach of the last 25 years. We are now at the point where most of us are bored with it. I listened to the game (ho hum). We have Wight and McDay coming (ho hum). We have 2 road wins (ho hum). The message board is now a fighting ground for everyone who has a singular love of Ohio University (ho hum). Torey James played finally (ho hum). This blah feeling about Bobcat hoops is on Saul and shame on him for setting us back.


This statement, my lord: "This blah feeling about Bobcat hoops is on Saul and shame on him for setting us back."

Shame on him? Lol. What a joke. If anything, shame on all of us for being obnoxious, bad supporters of OUr program - myself included. Shame on him....to me that implies intent to set the program back in the way that has occurred. Clearly there's no intent on the part of anyone, it just went sideways in the last couple years.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Miami (OH)
   Posted: 2/11/2019 11:11:03 AM 
FearLeon wrote:

Part of Saul's downfall these past couple of years was also thinking DT was more than what he really is. In four years he never came close to developing an offensive game. I counted 5 missed layups today and a number of fumbles. No depth at that position whatsoever. Which reminds me, how are we looking next year with play in the post?

Hopefully some roster space opens up and the new coach can address that position on the floor with a JUCO big and significantly improve the overall athleticism of this program. Amazing how far Miami's program is ahead of Ohio right now.


I didn't see any of this one to comment on how over matched Ohio was. Related to the future though, I would hope the next coach, when he arrives, isn't thinking about bigs as much as he is guards and wings, because that's where Ohio has been outmatched the most in the games I've seen them struggle.


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   Posted: 2/11/2019 11:20:49 AM 
One of the longtime posters on the MiamiHawkTalk mentioned that this was the "shi*iest" Ohio team he's ever seen.

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   Posted: 2/11/2019 11:44:34 AM 
OU_Country wrote:
FearLeon wrote:

Part of Saul's downfall these past couple of years was also thinking DT was more than what he really is. In four years he never came close to developing an offensive game. I counted 5 missed layups today and a number of fumbles. No depth at that position whatsoever. Which reminds me, how are we looking next year with play in the post?

Hopefully some roster space opens up and the new coach can address that position on the floor with a JUCO big and significantly improve the overall athleticism of this program. Amazing how far Miami's program is ahead of Ohio right now.


I didn't see any of this one to comment on how over matched Ohio was. Related to the future though, I would hope the next coach, when he arrives, isn't thinking about bigs as much as he is guards and wings, because that's where Ohio has been outmatched the most in the games I've seen them struggle.


Obviously, the guards and wings needs addressed as well. I'm just pointing out that Saul overestimated what DT could bring in night in and night out. I said three years ago he wasn't a 25-30 minute guy. However, he's better than anything we have currently on the roster right now at the center position and that's downright scary.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Miami (OH)
   Posted: 2/11/2019 12:16:28 PM 
FearLeon wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
FearLeon wrote:

Part of Saul's downfall these past couple of years was also thinking DT was more than what he really is. In four years he never came close to developing an offensive game. I counted 5 missed layups today and a number of fumbles. No depth at that position whatsoever. Which reminds me, how are we looking next year with play in the post?

Hopefully some roster space opens up and the new coach can address that position on the floor with a JUCO big and significantly improve the overall athleticism of this program. Amazing how far Miami's program is ahead of Ohio right now.


I didn't see any of this one to comment on how over matched Ohio was. Related to the future though, I would hope the next coach, when he arrives, isn't thinking about bigs as much as he is guards and wings, because that's where Ohio has been outmatched the most in the games I've seen them struggle.


Obviously, the guards and wings needs addressed as well. I'm just pointing out that Saul overestimated what DT could bring in night in and night out. I said three years ago he wasn't a 25-30 minute guy. However, he's better than anything we have currently on the roster right now at the center position and that's downright scary.


I guess it depends on how you see it - if the goal was for him to be a 10 and 10 guy, he's fallen short. But I doubt that was the goal. It wouldn't shock me if the goal was for him to be what he is right now while Dartis, Gollon, BVP, Block and Carter all did their things.


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   Posted: 2/11/2019 12:25:57 PM 
Arkley says we have not held a lead in the last 87 minutes of basketball. Jeebus.
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   Posted: 2/11/2019 12:35:08 PM 
100%Cat wrote:
Arkley says we have not held a lead in the last 87 minutes of basketball. Jeebus.


I saw the same thing on Twitter. Woof.

Brighter days ahead, I hope.


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   Posted: 2/11/2019 12:52:11 PM 
OU_Country wrote:
FearLeon wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
FearLeon wrote:

Part of Saul's downfall these past couple of years was also thinking DT was more than what he really is. In four years he never came close to developing an offensive game. I counted 5 missed layups today and a number of fumbles. No depth at that position whatsoever. Which reminds me, how are we looking next year with play in the post?

Hopefully some roster space opens up and the new coach can address that position on the floor with a JUCO big and significantly improve the overall athleticism of this program. Amazing how far Miami's program is ahead of Ohio right now.


I didn't see any of this one to comment on how over matched Ohio was. Related to the future though, I would hope the next coach, when he arrives, isn't thinking about bigs as much as he is guards and wings, because that's where Ohio has been outmatched the most in the games I've seen them struggle.


Obviously, the guards and wings needs addressed as well. I'm just pointing out that Saul overestimated what DT could bring in night in and night out. I said three years ago he wasn't a 25-30 minute guy. However, he's better than anything we have currently on the roster right now at the center position and that's downright scary.


I guess it depends on how you see it - if the goal was for him to be a 10 and 10 guy, he's fallen short. But I doubt that was the goal.


But remember....three years ago I got killed on this board saying that Taylor wasn't a 25-30 minute guy and I didn't see where he had it on the offensive end of the floor. The staff's inability to develop him at the basket offensively over these last three years is a major disappointment. His ability to catch and hold onto the ball in and out of traffic hasn't improved either.

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   Posted: 2/11/2019 1:49:08 PM 
I don't know about this Taylor bashing. He's one of my favorite Bobcats. It's true he doesn't contribute a great deal on the offensive end, though he's been trying to do more this year. He really shouldn't have to be relied on for offensive input, as his defensive skills are excellent. The best shot blocker we've had for a long time. The problem, in my view, is the surrounding cast. If our other bigs were contributing greater offensive output, his lack of offense wouldn't be minded, and he could concentrate more on his defensive talents. I've always liked his attitude and the way he conducts himself on the court. He plays very hard and seldom see him not giving 100 percent.


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   Posted: 2/11/2019 3:52:47 PM 
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I don't know about this Taylor bashing. He's one of my favorite Bobcats. It's true he doesn't contribute a great deal on the offensive end, though he's been trying to do more this year. He really shouldn't have to be relied on for offensive input, as his defensive skills are excellent. The best shot blocker we've had for a long time. The problem, in my view, is the surrounding cast. If our other bigs were contributing greater offensive output, his lack of offense wouldn't be minded, and he could concentrate more on his defensive talents. I've always liked his attitude and the way he conducts himself on the court. He plays very hard and seldom see him not giving 100 percent.


No question he's done a good job on the defensive end...that's never been a question. I think there were many on here who thought he'd develop into a 10 points per game type of guy by the time he was a senior. The staff just could not get him to improve with moves to the basket. Not bashing....it is what it is.


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   Posted: 2/11/2019 4:20:23 PM 
OUcats82 wrote:
100%Cat wrote:
Arkley says we have not held a lead in the last 87 minutes of basketball. Jeebus.


I saw the same thing on Twitter. Woof.

Brighter days ahead, I hope.


It's also the second time this season this has happened during MAC play. We never led against Kent (were tied 41-41), trailed the entire game against Toledo, then didn't get the lead vs WMU until the 9:40 mark of the first half (trailed at one point 15-1). That's 90 minutes and 20 seconds without leading.


Actually, the phrase is "Ohio on the Charles."

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 22 Thread: Miami (OH)
   Posted: 2/11/2019 6:29:22 PM 
FearLeon wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
I don't know about this Taylor bashing. He's one of my favorite Bobcats. It's true he doesn't contribute a great deal on the offensive end, though he's been trying to do more this year. He really shouldn't have to be relied on for offensive input, as his defensive skills are excellent. The best shot blocker we've had for a long time. The problem, in my view, is the surrounding cast. If our other bigs were contributing greater offensive output, his lack of offense wouldn't be minded, and he could concentrate more on his defensive talents. I've always liked his attitude and the way he conducts himself on the court. He plays very hard and seldom see him not giving 100 percent.


No question he's done a good job on the defensive end...that's never been a question. I think there were many on here who thought he'd develop into a 10 points per game type of guy by the time he was a senior. The staff just could not get him to improve with moves to the basket. Not bashing....it is what it is.


Taylor is Terren Harbut and Jon Smith. And that's not a bad thing! You need a guys like that. Problem is, we just haven't had quite enough firepower to make up for the difference.



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