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Topic:  RE: Fire Phillips Now
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randy
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Phillips Now
   Posted: 2/7/2019 10:43:50 PM 
I guess I can only compare my interactions with Schaus. I although I am not trying to get the Convo named after me I do understand where some of you come from in regards to him "not listening" in the Rhor room prior to and after games. shoot I have mentioned ideas too. he gets slammed of ideas I am open to suggestions as well obviously. I would suggest approaching him professionally and with a plan, including $. not at a game.


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RSBobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Phillips Now
   Posted: 2/7/2019 11:42:33 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
catfan28 wrote:
randy wrote:
and I nice ability to communicate with us fans


I tend to think there are a lot of folks that wouldn't necessarily agree with this assessment of Schaus.


I had a discussion recently with another fan in the Rohr Room at halftime of a men's basketball game. We agreed that while he talks to fans, he doesn't really listen to them. It's kind of a one-way communication when talking to Jim.


Agree - He will talk to you if you engage him but he is certainly remote - maybe not so remote if he knows you well and/or you are a donor Whale or Major larger donor community influencer. Seems "focused" on "appearances" - like a "politician"....


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OU_Country
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Phillips Now
   Posted: 2/8/2019 11:23:50 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
One interchange between Schaus and me involved an attempt to have the University honor Athens native Arthur Carr, probably the first African American QB at a predominantly white university in 1903-04, on the occasion of the game this past fall with Howard, where Carr earned his M.D. degree. I suggested maybe something like a banner at Peden with a drawing of Carr throwing a football with some mention of him being an African American pioneer. I contacted Schaus about this about a year before the game was played. His response was that we had honored him by naming a dorm after him. The implication was that that was enough, and that I should get off his lawn. As a last ditch effort to get some recognition for Carr on the eve of the Howard game, I was able to interest the Athens News in doing a cover story about it. Just think the publicity that OHIO could have garnered had the AD's office been on board. Just one example, but I think that it's illustrative.


Seems to me that the better way to handle this, and examples like it, would be to say - "hey, I like that idea, here's my email address (or my card). Send me a note, and me or my staff can follow up next week". Then, as long as they follow up and reply to your note, at the very least they give the impression they're engaged with Alumni and fans. They obviously can't follow through on every idea every fan or Alumnus has.

Also brings to my mind the idea, again, that we have this highly touted program in sports admin, and this might be a nice project for a student group to take on. Maybe I'm naive or incorrect, but it seems like that is a far underutilized resource in Athens.
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cc-cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Phillips Now
   Posted: 2/8/2019 5:52:09 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
One interchange between Schaus and me involved an attempt to have the University honor Athens native Arthur Carr, probably the first African American QB at a predominantly white university in 1903-04, on the occasion of the game this past fall with Howard, where Carr earned his M.D. degree. I suggested maybe something like a banner at Peden with a drawing of Carr throwing a football with some mention of him being an African American pioneer. I contacted Schaus about this about a year before the game was played. His response was that we had honored him by naming a dorm after him. The implication was that that was enough, and that I should get off his lawn. As a last ditch effort to get some recognition for Carr on the eve of the Howard game, I was able to interest the Athens News in doing a cover story about it. Just think the publicity that OHIO could have garnered had the AD's office been on board. Just one example, but I think that it's illustrative.


Hell of an idea from multiple angles. Sad (from multiple angles) it was summary dismissed.
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Uncle Wes
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  Message Not Read  RE: Fire Phillips Now
   Posted: 2/9/2019 12:59:44 AM 
OU_Country wrote:
Chicken George wrote:
Forgive me in that I know nothing regarding true facts about the logistics of this decision. All I know is the "they stretched every dollar to make it happen." Secondly, don't give me the "you should've just given them the money to make it happen." But IMO you only build Walter FH once in a generation or maybe longer. You don't, don't, don't, don't build a 4 lane half butt practice track with tight corners. You've got runners at your university, the area has no such facility, you've got ONE chance to get it right---100% in my uneducated opinion you wait it out until you can do it right. By hunch is that football pushed it not giving a lick about if the track was 1 lane, 4 lanes, or regulation and they short armed it. Too bad for every one else other than those who need turf. I just registered my son for an indoor event at Marshall where I believe they cut the indoor track event off at the first 800 athletes (I think) and there was a rush to register because it sells out very quickly annually I was told.


An additional thought or two on this IPF discussion:

1) Seems to me it would have made sense to have built the field house right up flush against Peden, so the restroom facilities and concession facilities under the student side could have been renovated during this, making it more of a multi-purpose project. Now, I'm no engineer to know if that was even feasible, but at least the logic of that would have made sense.

2) While doing this project, why not build a facility that would also function as a practice facility for hoops, volleyball, etc, essentially building one practice facility for all sports? Was the feasibility of such an idea ever considered? Seems like it might have been more cost effective in the long run.


See if Schaus can give you an answer on these two questions. Some of it might have to do with egress to the back of Peden for first responders and visiting teams. The way its set up now there is a parking lot on both sides of Peden Stadium. IPF looks nicer stand alone than attached to the side of a stadium. There wasn't enough space to put it in the endzone by the river nor the endzone on South Green drive. Lastly if built adjacent in to Peden it would hem the stadium in from a future expansion/tear down of the student stands.


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