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Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,776 Status: Offline     RE: NCAA reform proposals    Posted: 4/25/2018 11:02:57 AM  From my understanding of this: they huffed, they puffed, and blew at a brick house. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: NCAA reform proposals    Posted: 4/25/2018 11:15:44 AM  Decourcy's thoughts: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-com... Norlander's thoughts: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/commiss... / Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,504 Status: Offline     RE: NCAA reform proposals    Posted: 4/25/2018 11:29:46 AM  OU_Country wrote: Decourcy's thoughts: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-com... Norlander's thoughts: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/commiss... / Its amazing the different takes on the same study. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: NCAA reform proposals    Posted: 4/25/2018 11:34:32 AM  It seems to me that the Rice Commission is just nibbling around the edges of college basketball problems, and is not really supplying solutions. The chances needed are more drastic. The most important change needed, IMHO, is strengthening the academic requirements for freshmen. As it is, as a freshman, a student-athlete does not really need to maintain an average that would but him or her on a realistic track for graduation, despite statement of the NCAA to the contrary. Upping the academic requirement for freshmen would separate those who really want an education from those who have the one-and-done mentality. If a player isn't eligible in the freshman year, but is committed to getting an education, he or she will spend that year working to improve grades and become eligible in the following year. If it's a one-and-mentality, the player won't enroll in the first place, and that would be good for college basketball. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,480 Status: Offline     RE: NCAA reform proposals    Posted: 4/25/2018 12:08:28 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: It seems to me that the Rice Commission is just nibbling around the edges of college basketball problems, and is not really supplying solutions. The chances needed are more drastic. The most important change needed, IMHO, is strengthening the academic requirements for freshmen. As it is, as a freshman, a student-athlete does not really need to maintain an average that would but him or her on a realistic track for graduation, despite statement of the NCAA to the contrary. Upping the academic requirement for freshmen would separate those who really want an education from those who have the one-and-done mentality. If a player isn't eligible in the freshman year, but is committed to getting an education, he or she will spend that year working to improve grades and become eligible in the following year. If it's a one-and-mentality, the player won't enroll in the first place, and that would be good for college basketball. 3 years ago, several conferences brought back and tossed around the idea of freshmen ineligibility. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,023 Status: Offline     RE: NCAA reform proposals    Posted: 4/25/2018 12:42:58 PM  rpbobcat wrote: OU_Country wrote: Decourcy's thoughts: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-com... Norlander's thoughts: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/commiss... / Its amazing the different takes on the same study. I wouldn't call it different takes but different approaches - the first was an opinion piece and the second was reporting. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: NCAA reform proposals    Posted: 4/25/2018 12:50:21 PM  Alan Swank wrote: rpbobcat wrote: OU_Country wrote: Decourcy's thoughts: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/ncaa-com... Norlander's thoughts: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/commiss... / Its amazing the different takes on the same study. I wouldn't call it different takes but different approaches - the first was an opinion piece and the second was reporting. Agreed - generally, Mike has analysis and opinion in his work. For college hoops fans, I think he's a must Twitter follow. Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,504 Status: Offline     RE: NCAA reform proposals    Posted: 4/25/2018 1:08:47 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: 3 years ago, several conferences brought back and tossed around the idea of freshmen ineligibility. Personally,for a number of reasons,I'd like to see freshman ineligibility come back. Given the number of "red shirts" in college sports,its becoming pretty much the norm to try,unless you have a real "stud", to red shirt freshmen. You'd also kill the "one and done". The only potential downside are a lot more potential Grad Transfers. But that's another rule I'd like to see go away. Last Edited: 4/25/2018 1:10:55 PM by rpbobcat Back to Top Obc2 General User Member Since: 11/8/2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 596 Status: Offline     RE: NCAA reform proposals    Posted: 4/25/2018 4:05:22 PM  i know lots of UK fans who are more than fine with one and done so long as they their share of the 5 star recruits. two of them are looking at spending $4k for them and spouse to go to Bahamas for 4 game exhibition series vs international pro teams. good lord.... i love the Bobcat Way where we get most everyone for four years. Back to Top GraffZ06 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Dayton, OH Post Count: 1,911 Status: Offline     RE: NCAA reform proposals    Posted: 4/25/2018 6:38:50 PM  rpbobcat wrote: Given the number of "red shirts" in college sports,its becoming pretty much the norm to try,unless you have a real "stud", to red shirt freshmen. Do you have any statistical facts to back up this claim? If we're talking football I might tend to agree, but not basketball - but if you have statistics showing otherwise I'd love to see them. As in, over the last 5-10 years, what percentage of MAC basketball freshmen have been red shirted due to non-medical reasons? Again, I could be wrong but I have serious doubts it's "the norm". It certainly isn't for OU. Back to Top UpSan Bobcat General User Member Since: 8/30/2005 Location: Upper Sandusky, OH Post Count: 3,792 Status: Offline     RE: NCAA reform proposals    Posted: 4/25/2018 7:57:29 PM  GraffZ06 wrote: rpbobcat wrote: Given the number of "red shirts" in college sports,its becoming pretty much the norm to try,unless you have a real "stud", to red shirt freshmen. Do you have any statistical facts to back up this claim? If we're talking football I might tend to agree, but not basketball - but if you have statistics showing otherwise I'd love to see them. As in, over the last 5-10 years, what percentage of MAC basketball freshmen have been red shirted due to non-medical reasons? Again, I could be wrong but I have serious doubts it's "the norm". It certainly isn't for OU. I think you're right. There are very few basketball freshmen who redshirt unless for a medical reason. In football, however, especially on the mid-major level, there aren't very many true freshmen who play. 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