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Topic: RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Topic: RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

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Recovering Journalist
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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/14/2018 8:31:36 AM

Alan Swank wrote:

stub wrote:

On Jan. 18 the Board of Trustees will consider a resolution to proceed with installation of this $1.98 million project.

A huge waste of money. If the Trustees approve this, they are truly fiscally irresponsible.

If we had viable boards right now, I might agree with you, Alan. But we don't. We have boards that are outclassed by many high schools. They don't provide vaguely adequate scoring or fouling information. They are difficult to see. They are obstructed. The "video" element looks like a 16-bit arcade game. It drags the whole atmosphere down. Whether they are 15 years old or date back farther or not, they are profoundly outdated and their placement reflects a design error that's been in place since 1968. In that context, the cost is reasonable to fix a 50-year-old mistake.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/14/2018 1:11:26 PM

To the last posts from GraffZ06 and Recovering Journalist I give a big +1!

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/14/2018 1:59:19 PM

Someone posted a video from the stands on YouTube for Gary Trent Day. Parts of it include the intro video for Miami/Ohio rivalry. Imagine this moment on a bigger and better video board.

https://youtu.be/t4gVVvsVaQo

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/14/2018 5:05:15 PM

GoCats105 wrote:

"But that Ozone's gong to be . . . "

One of my favorite lines from one of the all time characters in the MAC. Charlie was a great one.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/14/2018 6:02:42 PM

I'm not sure about the current state of the concourses since I haven't been there in a while (the late Larry Hunter era for a game vs Marshall)... but if you look at what they did with that concourses at Stegeman Colosseum at the Univ. of Georgia, that was a major improvement on a building similar in age. Stegeman (aka smegma) was a real dump the fist time I was there in the late 80's and by the time I went to another game there in 2012, you wouldn't recognize the inside.

Concourse after the makeover...
http://www.georgiadogs.com/images/2016/5/23/stegeman16-09...

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/14/2018 6:45:25 PM

Heck with a scoreboard, but can anyone here tell me where a recruit or fan can see the history of OHIO Basketball in particular, and Ohio Athletics in general in the Convo? The MAC Trophies 🏆, photos of big games or moments? Traditions? Just curious.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/14/2018 7:40:45 PM

Alan Swank wrote:

CA Bobcat wrote:

mcbin wrote:

..... wrote:

but do we really need it?

Meh. It's all relative. I mean what you really *need* is food/air/water. Do you still have a 13 inch tv from 1985 in the room that you host visitors? Nope. Why did you get rid of it when it worked perfectly fine? Why did you get rid of the bedspread when it still kept you warm? Aesthetics likely. After nearly 20 years some stuff becomes embarrassing if not kept up.

The video boards look horrible, they're ~17 years old, and are in awful positions to boot. Hand dryers don't work, and force me to dry my hands on my jeans. None of this keeps me from coming to support the Bobcats.

Just like potholes don't prevent me from driving my car to work. But it's nicer when you can see the video boards, and roads are a bit smoother.

This! I really wonder if some of you enjoy taking a silly counter position just to give yourselves something to type about. I realize most of us are well beyond the age of high school and college students but you must try to understand what resonates with them to relate to the many things that are done to attract them to our campus and our athletic teams. Kids think it's cool to wear a "retro" alternative game uniform from time to time but none of them are drawn to a campus with facilities that are retro (i.e., old and outdated - not cool). IT'S NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND THIS CONCEPT! Now, if you don't agree with staying current, well, plan on being really frustrated all the time because that's what our coaches and administrators are going to do - spend money to stay relevant and attractive to student-athletes.

Sometimes I wish everyone had a business degree so they could understand simple economics and marketing concepts - or just some freaking common sense.

A business degree does not insure any of those things of which you speak. Several years ago I wrote an op-ed piece for the Messenger (several to be exact) about customer service and why I keet coming back to certain places or was attracted to them in the first place. Number one determinant then and still today - customer service. The customer service experience at OU athletic events just isn't very good right now. It's all about the university's interests and very little about the fans. That my friend is how you lose fans. Full disclosure. I do not have a business degree but ran my own $1.8 million dollar business for over 20 years and managed a region with annual billings of $20 million for another 11. Our successful reps were the ones who understood customer service.

If you read my post, I suggested a business degree OR some common sense. In other words, this is so elementary, you don't need a business degree. Customer Service isn't winning the recruiting wars...but Sales does. We need ways to sell OHIO and the scoreboard is part of the winning formula.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/14/2018 9:12:58 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

I've seen outstanding displays in many college arenas. In December I attended a game at Jacksonville State in Alabama which included photos, a net and tickets from the men's basketball OVC championship last March and an NCAA tournament scorebook with the data filled in for the Gamecocks game vs Louisville. This was in a relatively small glass case in the lobby. Very cool.

As I recall, Central Michigan has a decent display of athletic history in it's arena. Nice gym, hospitality and game atmosphere -- even though attendance was low the night I was there.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/14/2018 10:55:24 PM

May provide additional advertising revenue than obstructed screens in the corners. Also, with some creativity, can be used to better connect with crowd.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/15/2018 8:34:06 AM

I've been to most MAC arenas and our scoreboards are the worst. When they play a video on them, I cringe. I know nothing about appropriate pricing and available budgets, but I do know selfishly I would love to see something be done.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/15/2018 6:34:29 PM

GoCats105 wrote:

Thanks for the video. I forgot just how great it was. I really wish it was still like that.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/15/2018 8:17:54 PM

The better Ohio Bobcat wrote:

GoCats105 wrote:

Thanks for the video. I forgot just how great it was. I really wish it was still like that.

I miss that atmosphere.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/16/2018 10:13:46 AM

Joe McKinley wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

This is a huge missed opportunity for Ohio in my opinion. I lobby on here, and in my end of season survey that simple things that don't cost hundreds of thousands could be done to showcase this. There's no reason there can't be a nice display of the history - the big games, the All-MAC players, etc. Put it out there for the public to see. Goes back to what I said in the Seat Police (Bobcat Mail) thread: It's time for the folks running things to take a hard look at how they do things. That includes this kind of stuff.

I think over the last decade or so that it may have been taken for granted that 5500 people were going to just show up on a weeknight, and 8500+ were going to show up on a weekend. Product on the court has some bearing, I acknowledge. Making the rest of the experience - concessions, ticketing, giveaways, audio/video, things that make game day "cool" and exciting - is also really important to many fans.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/17/2018 8:51:10 AM

An over-the-court scoreboard has been needed for at least 20 years. It would provide a really nice touch to the arena and make for a much better fan experience for those of us with tickets in the upper-half of the seats.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/17/2018 10:04:24 AM

BobcatPride wrote:

I agree with you, those in the upper half will like this, those in the lower bowl will bitch that the scoreboard is too high.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/17/2018 10:18:35 AM

BillyTheCat wrote:

BobcatPride wrote:

I agree with you, those in the upper half will like this, those in the lower bowl will bitch that the scoreboard is too high.

Couldn't they theoretically keep the lower boards WHILE adding the new hanging one to appease to this crowd? Maybe it would be hard to sync everything together at that point, but there's a solution for that complaint too.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/17/2018 10:26:54 AM

BillyTheCat wrote:

BobcatPride wrote:

I agree with you, those in the upper half will like this, those in the lower bowl will bitch that the scoreboard is too high.

Then it will be a perfect sponsorship opportunity for a chiropractor.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/17/2018 11:00:59 AM

GoCats105 wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

BobcatPride wrote:

I agree with you, those in the upper half will like this, those in the lower bowl will bitch that the scoreboard is too high.

Lower boards will stay in some form, the officials, and scorers table must have easy access to game information, as well as players and coaches.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/18/2018 10:29:16 AM

bn9 wrote:

OU_Country wrote:

Alan Swank wrote:

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

Chicken George wrote:

I cannot speak in regards to if we can afford it. Don't know?
I cannot speak to if there are other priorities within that budget that are more important. Don't know?
Nothing is going to beat the impact of an exciting product on the floor. Good/fun team > Scoreboard

However, as for the overall aesthetics inside the arena--this is a game changer. In fact, what percentage of venues that size/shape would you guess don't have a hanging scoreboard? I'd guess not having one is an exception.

Of course having a better team is more important than a good scoreboard, but having a nicer gameday experience with a better scoreboard could attract better recruits, which would help out with the first problem.

How long are we going to keep using the better recruits argument? With all of the enhancements that have been made to the Convo and Peden, when is the last time we won a league title in either sport - in other words, where are the recruits? No offense to the kids who have come here to play ball and get an education but I see no empirical evidence in the least that says scoreboards lead to better players.

That said a board with more info would be nice but do we really need it? If the fans really needed one I guess they'd replace the scoreboard in Fenway.

Since you asked, 2013. Not terribly long ago. Another glass of wine for you while I grab one?

Right, because Fenway doesn�t have a giant video board in centerfield.

And one that was replaced in 2011 because they felt the existing one wasn't good enough because it wasn't HD. It seems that even Fenway needs a good HD video board.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/18/2018 10:46:55 AM

DelBobcat wrote:

bn9 wrote:

OU_Country wrote:

Alan Swank wrote:

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

Chicken George wrote:

Since you asked, 2013. Not terribly long ago. Another glass of wine for you while I grab one?

Right, because Fenway doesn’t have a giant video board in centerfield.

And one that was replaced in 2011 because they felt the existing one wasn't good enough because it wasn't HD. It seems that even Fenway needs a good HD video board.

We could always go retro with that hanging scoreboard.

Last Edited: 1/18/2018 10:49:21 AM by OhioCatFan

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/18/2018 11:41:19 AM

I think Balls did a great job with their boards. They put smaller boards at a different angle for the courtside and the larger boards for the Upper concourse. They are really aggressive with the local marketing as well. Kept floor level boards in the corners to look at as well.

https://twitter.com/CUPinc/status/953447829007159296

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/18/2018 12:07:36 PM

My hope is to have something similar to what they have at Cintas if it's eventually completed. A 4-sided video and scoreboard, with a circular LED ribbon underneath for advertisements to display.

http://goxavier.com/news/2017/8/22/athletic-department-xa...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bPyyy-rOcA

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/18/2018 12:11:45 PM

bornacatfan wrote:

I really like what they're doing in Muncie. Success at Ball State is always gonna be good for the MAC in my opinion.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/20/2018 9:20:21 AM

The Board of Trustees approved $56 million in capital projects and I believe the video board was part of that.

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RE: $2 million Convo Video Board Project to be Considered

Posted: 1/23/2018 8:45:12 AM

Yup. Approved $2 million for scoreboard

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