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Topic:  RE: Official Game 14 Thread: Northern Illinois

Topic:  RE: Official Game 14 Thread: Northern Illinois
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GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 14 Thread: Northern Illinois
   Posted: 1/9/2018 12:10:17 PM 
Recovering Journalist wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
Jeff McKinney wrote:
It needs to go. Period.


Jeff - as the devoted and respected Bobcat fan that you are, I would encourage you to do two things - 1) don't stand for D any longer and encourage those who sit near you to do the same and 2) write a short but pointed email to Jim Schaus explaining why you feel this "tradition" needs to go.

In fact if enough people will do that in an appropriate and respectful way, perhaps he'll get the message and do away with it. in this upcoming challenging year of securing donations, no athletic administrator can afford to alienate their fan base.


I sit in Schaus' section and I definitely SIT in his section. The "tradition" makes me cringe every time, and it's even more painful in the second half.


I'm assuming this is something he brought with him from Wichita? They still do it there.

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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 14 Thread: Northern Illinois
   Posted: 1/9/2018 12:54:01 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
Recovering Journalist wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
Jeff McKinney wrote:
It needs to go. Period.


Jeff - as the devoted and respected Bobcat fan that you are, I would encourage you to do two things - 1) don't stand for D any longer and encourage those who sit near you to do the same and 2) write a short but pointed email to Jim Schaus explaining why you feel this "tradition" needs to go.

In fact if enough people will do that in an appropriate and respectful way, perhaps he'll get the message and do away with it. in this upcoming challenging year of securing donations, no athletic administrator can afford to alienate their fan base.


I sit in Schaus' section and I definitely SIT in his section. The "tradition" makes me cringe every time, and it's even more painful in the second half.


I'm assuming this is something he brought with him from Wichita? They still do it there.



Some things are best left in the cornfields of Kansas.

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Andrew Ruck
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 14 Thread: Northern Illinois
   Posted: 1/9/2018 2:34:03 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
As a player, if I was in the opponent's gym and their fans were standing to support their team in keeping us from scoring, I would try extra hard to score that first point as soon as possible...


You heard it here first, folks. Alan Swank did not try his hardest all the time.


Andrew Ruck
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 14 Thread: Northern Illinois
   Posted: 1/9/2018 3:46:17 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
As a player, if I was in the opponent's gym and their fans were standing to support their team in keeping us from scoring, I would try extra hard to score that first point as soon as possible...


You heard it here first, folks. Alan Swank did not try his hardest all the time.


I wasn't talking about myself although the sentence structure makes it sound that way. What I meant to say is that if i was a player today and walked into the Convo, my teammates and I would find a way to make the fans sit down as quickly as possible. Their standing provides extra motivation for the visiting team to score.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 14 Thread: Northern Illinois
   Posted: 1/9/2018 3:47:13 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:

I'm assuming this is something he brought with him from Wichita? They still do it there.



Maybe they're standing to honor the Koch brothers at Wichita State.

Kidding and risking assignment to Siberia aside, traditions that are embraced and last tend to be organic. Like it or hate it, the "OU, Oh Yeah" cheer started pretty organically. Whether it was cribbed from Utah State or not, "Winning Team/Losing Team" started with a zealous student section.

I happen to think "We Stand for Defense" is stupid for basketball, but even if I didn't, it was installed inorganically by an AD telling a PA guy to say it. Much like the failed attempt to get fans to say "OHIO!" after a first down at the football games this year. You can't synthesize enthusiasm. People stand and cheer when their team does good things, not when they're told to.
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 14 Thread: Northern Illinois
   Posted: 1/9/2018 3:52:44 PM 
Recovering Journalist wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:

I'm assuming this is something he brought with him from Wichita? They still do it there.



Maybe they're standing to honor the Koch brothers at Wichita State.

Kidding and risking assignment to Siberia aside, traditions that are embraced and last tend to be organic. Like it or hate it, the "OU, Oh Yeah" cheer started pretty organically. Whether it was cribbed from Utah State or not, "Winning Team/Losing Team" started with a zealous student section.

I happen to think "We Stand for Defense" is stupid for basketball, but even if I didn't, it was installed inorganically by an AD telling a PA guy to say it. Much like the failed attempt to get fans to say "OHIO!" after a first down at the football games this year. You can't synthesize enthusiasm. People stand and cheer when their team does good things, not when they're told to.


Amen. I've been standing and clapping a ton this year in response to the plays that Mike Laster has made.
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