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Hmmmm......who's been saying that??^^^^^^^^^^^ We just lost 15-18 points per game heading into next season and most likely the player of the year in the conference. Saul had to know 2 was a goner, which makes our recent add more puzzling. How can you justify needing a big now when we just lost our best player who was a PG? And people just crushed me on this board yesterday for saying the signing made no sense....before Simmons left!!! And Saul knew he was a goner. Whether or not you like the last signing is irrelevant. Simmons leaving actually makes that signing make more sense. Before, it was assumed to be our last scholarship, but now we know we still have one open to grab another guard. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,552 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 4/25/2017 1:19:07 PM  bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote: FearLeon wrote: GoCats105 wrote: FearLeon wrote: GraffZ06 wrote: Maybe those people claiming we needed to get an offensive minded P5 legit big instead of Mickle were right. Hmmmm......who's been saying that??^^^^^^^^^^^ We just lost 15-18 points per game heading into next season and most likely the player of the year in the conference. Saul had to know 2 was a goner, which makes our recent add more puzzling. How can you justify needing a big now when we just lost our best player who was a PG? And people just crushed me on this board yesterday for saying the signing made no sense....before Simmons left!!! And Saul knew he was a goner. Whether or not you like the last signing is irrelevant. Simmons leaving actually makes that signing make more sense. Before, it was assumed to be our last scholarship, but now we know we still have one open to grab another guard. Agreed. With Simmons departure, this makes MORE sense not less. Without Mickle, we'd only have 1 senior on roster after Jaaron leaves. I'll save the explanation on what people are missing with Mickle for his recruiting thread... I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 4/26/2017 9:08:04 AM  brucecuth wrote: It's a real problem for all mid majors. Grad transfers absolutely decimated Cleveland State 2 years ago, and hastened the departure of coach Gary Waters. I have not read quotes from Jaaron, but I wonder if knowing the MAC is and will be for the foreseeable future a 1 bid league had much to do with this. He can go to Michigan, finish 5th in the league or lower and play in March. I hope this doesn't lead to other kids transferring, even though they'd have to sit a year. Maybe not now, but at some future point. When your leader bails, it has to cross your mind. Saul is facing a real test now because of the leadership void. Also, I wonder now if you change your policy about accepting undergrad transfers, or you just now plan for the fact that you'll have one less year with the kid than you have in the past. If he doesn't grad transfer, well then it's a bonus. I hate being a mid major, and I fear things are only gonna get worse for the MAC and similar conferences. Yes Cleveland lost Anton Grady to Wichita State, Trey Lewis to Louisville and Bryn Forbes on a hardship transfer. They lost three all conference players, the NCAA needs to modify this rule. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 4/26/2017 9:09:31 AM  The Optimist wrote: bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote: FearLeon wrote: GoCats105 wrote: FearLeon wrote: GraffZ06 wrote: Maybe those people claiming we needed to get an offensive minded P5 legit big instead of Mickle were right. Hmmmm......who's been saying that??^^^^^^^^^^^ We just lost 15-18 points per game heading into next season and most likely the player of the year in the conference. Saul had to know 2 was a goner, which makes our recent add more puzzling. How can you justify needing a big now when we just lost our best player who was a PG? And people just crushed me on this board yesterday for saying the signing made no sense....before Simmons left!!! And Saul knew he was a goner. Whether or not you like the last signing is irrelevant. Simmons leaving actually makes that signing make more sense. Before, it was assumed to be our last scholarship, but now we know we still have one open to grab another guard. Agreed. With Simmons departure, this makes MORE sense not less. Without Mickle, we'd only have 1 senior on roster after Jaaron leaves. I'll save the explanation on what people are missing with Mickle for his recruiting thread... You get a senior that has had success, nice moral though. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,503 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 4/26/2017 10:01:10 AM  Simmons is getting a degree in "Specialized Studies" with a "concentration" in management and communications. From reading the degree's description on O.U.'s website it would seem that this program would allow someone to get a degree,with very limited value in the "real world" and little appeal to a grad school,especially at a highly rated academic institution like Michigan. Wonder what his major will be and whether he had take the GSAT ? Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 4/26/2017 10:45:37 AM  rpbobcat wrote: Simmons is getting a degree in "Specialized Studies" with a "concentration" in management and communications. From reading the degree's description on O.U.'s website it would seem that this program would allow someone to get a degree,with very limited value in the "real world" and little appeal to a grad school,especially at a highly rated academic institution like Michigan. Wonder what his major will be and whether he had take the GSAT ? Whatever his degree is in, he did it in four years and that included starting at another school. I'm not happy he is leaving us at the altar but I applaud the heck about his ability to hold up his end of the deal academically. And from all accounts he's a really good kid. Don't like or agree with his decision but he certainly earned the right to make it. Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,503 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 4/26/2017 11:26:55 AM  OUVan wrote: rpbobcat wrote: Simmons is getting a degree in "Specialized Studies" with a "concentration" in management and communications. From reading the degree's description on O.U.'s website it would seem that this program would allow someone to get a degree,with very limited value in the "real world" and little appeal to a grad school,especially at a highly rated academic institution like Michigan. Wonder what his major will be and whether he had take the GSAT ? Whatever his degree is in, he did it in four years and that included starting at another school. I'm not happy he is leaving us at the altar but I applaud the heck about his ability to hold up his end of the deal academically. And from all accounts he's a really good kid. Don't like or agree with his decision but he certainly earned the right to make it. I don't have any issue with Mr. Simmons.I'm also not happy about his desicion,but its his to make. What I'm saying is that,if it wasn't for B.B.,I don't know if he'd get into graduate school at Michigan. Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,155 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 4/26/2017 11:31:49 AM  OUVan wrote: rpbobcat wrote: Simmons is getting a degree in "Specialized Studies" with a "concentration" in management and communications. From reading the degree's description on O.U.'s website it would seem that this program would allow someone to get a degree,with very limited value in the "real world" and little appeal to a grad school,especially at a highly rated academic institution like Michigan. Wonder what his major will be and whether he had take the GSAT ? Whatever his degree is in, he did it in four years and that included starting at another school. I'm not happy he is leaving us at the altar but I applaud the heck about his ability to hold up his end of the deal academically. And from all accounts he's a really good kid. Don't like or agree with his decision but he certainly earned the right to make it. Agree with you. I think it's not good to rip Ohio players like some are doing above. Seems to be putting down our institution as well as the player. Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,503 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 4/26/2017 11:57:01 AM  colobobcat66 wrote: OUVan wrote: rpbobcat wrote: Simmons is getting a degree in "Specialized Studies" with a "concentration" in management and communications. From reading the degree's description on O.U.'s website it would seem that this program would allow someone to get a degree,with very limited value in the "real world" and little appeal to a grad school,especially at a highly rated academic institution like Michigan. Wonder what his major will be and whether he had take the GSAT ? Whatever his degree is in, he did it in four years and that included starting at another school. I'm not happy he is leaving us at the altar but I applaud the heck about his ability to hold up his end of the deal academically. And from all accounts he's a really good kid. Don't like or agree with his decision but he certainly earned the right to make it. Agree with you. I think it's not good to rip Ohio players like some are doing above. Seems to be putting down our institution as well as the player. If you saw my follow up post,my issue isn't with Mr.Simmons.Its how schools seem willing to bend academic rules if/when it suits their needs in certain athletic programs. Its nothing new,I know,but it still bothers me. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,454 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 4/26/2017 12:46:40 PM  rpbobcat wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: OUVan wrote: rpbobcat wrote: Simmons is getting a degree in "Specialized Studies" with a "concentration" in management and communications. From reading the degree's description on O.U.'s website it would seem that this program would allow someone to get a degree,with very limited value in the "real world" and little appeal to a grad school,especially at a highly rated academic institution like Michigan. Wonder what his major will be and whether he had take the GSAT ? Whatever his degree is in, he did it in four years and that included starting at another school. I'm not happy he is leaving us at the altar but I applaud the heck about his ability to hold up his end of the deal academically. And from all accounts he's a really good kid. Don't like or agree with his decision but he certainly earned the right to make it. Agree with you. I think it's not good to rip Ohio players like some are doing above. Seems to be putting down our institution as well as the player. If you saw my follow up post,my issue isn't with Mr.Simmons.Its how schools seem willing to bend academic rules if/when it suits their needs in certain athletic programs. Its nothing new,I know,but it still bothers me. How do you know any academic rules were "bent". You have no clue what his academic credentials are in comparisons to the admission standards at Michigan are, nor do you know his standardized test status and scores. All conjecture and in a manner that disparages the young man who fulfilled his obligations to Ohio University, he came here and he got his degree. Well done young man! And thank you for a couple of great years on the court! Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 4/26/2017 2:28:28 PM  Relative to Jaaron's declaration for the draft, here are some numbers for this year: @BobbyMarks42: NBA announces that 182 early entry players including 137 college players have declared. Remember there is only 2 rounds and 60 picks. https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/856981118398148609 Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,503 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 4/26/2017 4:02:04 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: How do you know any academic rules were "bent". You have no clue what his academic credentials are in comparisons to the admission standards at Michigan are, nor do you know his standardized test status and scores. All conjecture and in a manner that disparages the young man who fulfilled his obligations to Ohio University, he came here and he got his degree. Well done young man! And thank you for a couple of great years on the court! Mr. Simmons got his degree. As far as his "obligation" to O.U.,I'm sure,when he was recruited, it wasn't with the understanding that he would leave for another program with one year of eligibility left. I never said Michigan bent any academic rules for Mr. Simmons. But I wouldn't be surprised if they did. When I went to O.U.,the S.S. degree was about the easiest O.U. offered. I actually looked into it because, at the time, I was a dual engineering/pre vet major. I thought that,if I went for the S.S. degree, I could take more technical electives. My advisor was blunt. He said "Don't even think about it.The degree is nothing but a minefield". He said it was set up just so people could say they got a degree,but that,other then that,it wasn't much use. Unless things have changed dramatically,this degree doesn't seem like it would put you on a path to graduate school. As I posted in another thread,the NCAA touts how many athletes get degrees.But they don't say what they're in or what of what value they are. Back to Top The Better Ohio Bobcat General User Member Since: 3/28/2017 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 196 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 5/17/2017 9:39:46 PM  Jaaron is out of the draft and off to Michigan Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,503 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 5/18/2017 6:34:11 AM  Feigned shock and disbelief ! Last Edited: 5/18/2017 6:35:53 AM by rpbobcat Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,706 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 5/24/2017 7:07:13 PM  And alstork ends up in Champaignhttps://mobile.twitter.com/IlliniMBB/status/867513788618166272 Last Edited: 5/24/2017 7:12:26 PM by bornacatfan never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: Simmons to declare for NBA draft    Posted: 5/25/2017 10:49:34 AM  bornacatfan wrote: And alstork ends up in Champaign https://mobile.twitter.com/IlliniMBB/status/8675137886181... Saw this last night. From a Bobcat perspective, given the amount of talk he got on here, it's sort of interesting that he ends up where the former coach just left. Back to Top Showing Replies:   126 - 141  of 141 Posts Jump to Page:   < Previous    1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 View Other 'Ohio Basketball' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 169 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 165 Guests 4 Registered Users:   Spearchucker, shabamon, Jonesy1017, FJC31 There are no other users looking at this page.

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