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KJOhio
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Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/23/2016 11:55:19 AM

Here's the preseason rankings according to CBS. Below is all the teams on Ohio's schedule.

Akron #78
Iona #102
Ohio #115
Marshall #126
Sam Houston State #130
Western Kentucky #138
Northern Illinois #146
Ball State #149
Buffalo #164
Central Michigan #192
Kent #213
Georgia Tech #218
Eastern Michigan #238
Bryant #247
Toledo $256
Cleveland State #261
Southern #271
Western Michigan #273
Bowling Green #281
Tennessee Tech #282
Miami #289
Milwaukee #313

Campus Flow
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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/23/2016 1:17:44 PM

Every MAC team is 50 points too low.

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/23/2016 3:44:13 PM

BUFFALO at 164 is comical.

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/23/2016 3:53:12 PM

EMUs rating is ridiculously low.

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/23/2016 5:10:58 PM

Obc2 wrote:

BUFFALO at 164 is comical.

Jeff Goodman shared this on Twitter and noted what a difficult task it is to try to rank every team, but said Buffalo was ranked too low.

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/23/2016 7:40:49 PM

KJOhio wrote:

So there are only two teams that we have scheduled better than us? I'm scratching my head at the $2000 I just spent to see this.

mcbin
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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/23/2016 7:49:34 PM

Alan Swank wrote:

KJOhio wrote:

So there are only two teams that we have scheduled better than us? I'm scratching my head at the $2000 I just spent to see this.

Kentucky season ticket holders must be beside themselves using this line of thinking :)

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/23/2016 10:43:42 PM

mcbin wrote:

Alan Swank wrote:

KJOhio wrote:

So there are only two teams that we have scheduled better than us? I'm scratching my head at the $2000 I just spent to see this.

Kentucky season ticket holders must be beside themselves using this line of thinking :)

And the $2K spenders would need binoculars at the games...... :)

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/23/2016 11:15:36 PM

KJOhio wrote:

anyone else think 27-3 would be a good season? ;-)

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/23/2016 11:27:09 PM

Another bet I would be happy to make...27-3? Ain't gonna happen!!

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/24/2016 8:52:18 AM

Jeff McKinney wrote:

EMUs rating is ridiculously low.

I hadn't even noticed them. They lost one of their top 7 players and are ranked 120 spots lower than they finished last year. That's absurd.

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/24/2016 10:41:29 AM

We are #111 in KenPom.com's new rankings.

Other notables.

EMU - 88
Akron - 91
Buffalo - 110
Miami - 287

The MAC is 9th overall as a conference. That is about the highest I have ever seen us. We are above the CAA/MWC/MVC.

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/24/2016 11:16:59 AM

KJOhio wrote:

Comparatively, here's the Ken Pom Rankings for all of them:

Akron #91
Iona #115
Ohio #111
Marshall #133
Sam Houston State #132
Western Kentucky #167
Northern Illinois #127
Ball State #134
Buffalo #110
Central Michigan #149
Kent #210
Georgia Tech #107
Eastern Michigan #88
Bryant #309
Toledo $120
Cleveland State #211
Southern #282
Western Michigan #138
Bowling Green #174
Tennessee Tech #270
Miami #287
Milwaukee #227

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/24/2016 11:50:41 AM

OU_Country wrote:

KJOhio wrote:

We finished 86 (RPI) last year and only lost one key contributor (setty), plus Kaminski had a subpar year. CBS has us too low, but we have to prove it.

Last Edited: 10/24/2016 11:53:51 AM by allen

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/24/2016 9:48:02 PM

OU_Country wrote:

KJOhio wrote:

Ken Pomeroy's rankings look a bit more accurate to me.

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/25/2016 12:21:42 AM

UpSan Bobcat wrote:

OU_Country wrote:

KJOhio wrote:

Ken Pomeroy's rankings look a bit more accurate to me.

Agree - However they both apparently equally hear that loud sucking sound coming from Oxford.......

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/25/2016 9:30:50 AM

RSBobcat wrote:

Agree - However they both apparently equally hear that loud sucking sound coming from Oxford.......

Miami is going to be an interesting situation. Cooper is a lame duck but supposedly is bringing in a solid class. They have 7 true freshman on the roster. They have 6 holdovers from last year but none of them played 20 minutes a game. 4 of them were in the rotation however so they have a little experience. The returnees shot about 33% from the field and 29% from 3. Unless these freshman are ridiculously good Cooper is gone. And if he is gone the next coach is going to have a real problem on his hands if he can't retain most of these freshman. 5 of the holdovers are juniors (the lone senior appears to be a walk-on type) so will have one more year. The new coach will almost have to go the JUCO route to even out the classes. Otherwise he'll have an entire roster of freshman and sophs his 2nd season. Could be tough to find a quality coach willing to step into this mess.

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/25/2016 10:08:20 AM

OUVan wrote:

RSBobcat wrote:

Agree - However they both apparently equally hear that loud sucking sound coming from Oxford.......

One has to believe that's the only reason Cooper was retained. On the plus side, the next coach will get to see that they aren't quick to terminate a coaches contract. ;)

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/25/2016 6:24:41 PM

Please fill me in. Cooper is to be fired and that end of the season? This has been announced ahead of time? He is really a "lame duck"? I've never heard of such a thing in college hoops. I must have missed the big announcement. Please enlighten me. Thanks.

Last Edited: 10/25/2016 6:25:34 PM by OhioCatFan

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/25/2016 7:28:38 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

There has been no announcement. Frankly, I was shocked he wasn't fired after last year. But he is a lame duck since his contract expires after this season. They will only have one scholarship available (and I'm not even sure they have that one since the senior in question only played in something like 5 games last year) but recruiting is always challenging for a coach who doesn't have a contract for next year. Cooper is going to have to have a super season to earn an extension and I just don't see that happening with the team they have assembled.

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/25/2016 9:24:44 PM

I am still most scared with Buffalo. Conner, Massingburg, Perkins, Hamilton, Smart, Kadiri, Johnson back..they are going to be dangerous. I think Big Dog, Cheatham, Jackson and Robotham are a big 4 close to ours. Don't sleep on Western either with probably the best 1-2 punch with Wilder and Haymond (other than Simmons and Tone).

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/26/2016 9:03:40 AM

Western blows. Frankly I am more concerned with Central, Eastern, and Northern Illinois out of the West.

I honestly believe this will be the worst Miami team any of us have ever seen. They have no scholarship seniors. Their leading returning scorer, Harouna, averaged less than six points per game last year. They have no true point guard. At one point, they had one of the most impressive recruiting classes among mid-majors, but it has deteriorated. Braxton Beverly backed out of his commitment, reclassified for 2017 to play a post-grad year at Hargrave and is now committed to Ohio State. Derrick Daniels from Thurgood Marshall high school caught a huge case of senioritis after committing to Miami: Barely graduated, ineligible from playing his senior year, and now has some serious legal problems.

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/26/2016 11:10:08 AM

shabamon wrote:

Western blows. Frankly I am more concerned with Central, Eastern, and Northern Illinois out of the West.

What about Toledo?

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/26/2016 11:15:12 AM

Bobcat1998 wrote:

Agree with you on UB. They return some nice pieces, and bring in 4 pretty good freshmen.

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RE: Ohio #115 in CBS 351

Posted: 10/26/2016 11:49:45 AM

OU_Country wrote:

shabamon wrote:

Western blows. Frankly I am more concerned with Central, Eastern, and Northern Illinois out of the West.

What about Toledo?

Toledo is an enigma. They lost two of their top 3 scorers (Boothe & Mosley) from a team that clearly underperformed last year. Kowalcyk doesn't seem to value defense.

Odd Fact - Toledo vs Teams from Michigan 1-8, the rest of the Country 16-7.

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