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I know Saul will feel like he owes Laster, Wadley and Harley but I really hope that if Culver and Carter have earned it he puts them in right away. I felt like he should have had Darty and Block getting more minutes last year right away but he started with Wad and Harley. Go for it coach, let the young guys eat! http://www.athensmessenger.com/sports/ohiouniversity/newc... Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,630 Status: Offline     RE: New Guys Making an Impact    Posted: 8/15/2016 7:49:56 AM  Bobcat1998 wrote: How exciting is this to see?! I know Saul will feel like he owes Laster, Wadley and Harley but I really hope that if Culver and Carter have earned it he puts them in right away. I felt like he should have had Darty and Block getting more minutes last year right away but he started with Wad and Harley. Go for it coach, let the young guys eat! http://www.athensmessenger.com/sports/ohiouniversity/newc... +1 Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,552 Status: Offline     RE: New Guys Making an Impact    Posted: 8/15/2016 8:16:17 AM  Quote: The potential opening for any player on the roster looking for more minutes next season is how they play on the defensive end of the floor. It’s no secret Ohio is hoping a step up in defensive metrics will result in another jump in the team’s win total. No secret... Anyone who can become a "defensive specialist" is going to find minutes on this squad. I'm excited about this season. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,912 Status: Offline     RE: New Guys Making an Impact    Posted: 8/15/2016 8:19:02 AM  Nice to read about Tony's praise of Jason. If Ohio has two guys with Tony's skill set this season...man that's gonna be tough to stop. Back to Top Bobcat1998 General User Member Since: 11/7/2012 Post Count: 2,230 Status: Offline     RE: New Guys Making an Impact    Posted: 8/15/2016 10:23:46 AM  And for Tone to say that Carter will be a MAC Player of the Year someday is huge praise. We really haven't had a stretch 4 since Ivo and even Ivo wasn't a 3-point threat. Adding Gareri next year as a stretch 4 will only make us more dangerous. I just hope Culver can "D" up on Buffalo because that's the team I am most fearful of in terms of their athleticism and strength. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: New Guys Making an Impact    Posted: 8/15/2016 11:33:30 AM  Bobcat1998 wrote: How exciting is this to see?! I know Saul will feel like he owes Laster, Wadley and Harley but I really hope that if Culver and Carter have earned it he puts them in right away. I felt like he should have had Darty and Block getting more minutes last year right away but he started with Wad and Harley. Go for it coach, let the young guys eat! http://www.athensmessenger.com/sports/ohiouniversity/newc... Agreed on getting the young guys on the floor if they're worthy. Laster and Harley are going to have a tougher time getting minutes unless they've improved. To me, that's a great sign with this program. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: New Guys Making an Impact    Posted: 8/15/2016 11:39:20 AM  There's one other guy I'd really like to hear more about: Ellis Dozier. Back to Top brucecuth General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Post Count: 1,794 Status: Offline     RE: New Guys Making an Impact    Posted: 8/15/2016 3:01:42 PM  Bobcat1998 wrote: How exciting is this to see?! I know Saul will feel like he owes Laster, Wadley and Harley but I really hope that if Culver and Carter have earned it he puts them in right away. I felt like he should have had Darty and Block getting more minutes last year right away but he started with Wad and Harley. Go for it coach, let the young guys eat! http://www.athensmessenger.com/sports/ohiouniversity/newc... B-Cat, if you had heard Saul at the Columbus caravan stop, you might think differently. He was very lukewarm toward Wadley. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,696 Status: Offline     RE: New Guys Making an Impact    Posted: 8/15/2016 3:19:34 PM  Very cool. Love the praise Kenny is giving, but if his shooting doesn't come back, he could be the one to give up minutes for Carter. I give him credit for being an excellent teammate in his time here. Harley/Mompremier/Laster will get minutes but won't be starters. Dozier & Gollon may have an uphill battle to ever crack thru. I, like most, do not know much about them, but I'm certainly not counting them out. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: New Guys Making an Impact    Posted: 8/15/2016 3:49:10 PM  Andrew Ruck wrote: Very cool. Love the praise Kenny is giving, but if his shooting doesn't come back, he could be the one to give up minutes for Carter. I give him credit for being an excellent teammate in his time here. Harley/Mompremier/Laster will get minutes but won't be starters. Dozier & Gollon may have an uphill battle to ever crack thru. I, like most, do not know much about them, but I'm certainly not counting them out. If Culver is 75% as good as Dartis was last year, one of Harley or Laster isn't going to play much at all if everyone stays healthy. I also think I remember reading Gollon may sit this year with an injury? I also don't see Wadley getting much PT unless Saul opts to play 10-11 deep. What everyone says about Taylor suggests he's ready to get serious PT this year. He, along with Block, are two sophomores that I'd expect to make serious contributions and get serious PT. So OUr minutes played are probably gonna look like this: Tony, Simmons, Dartis, Kaminski, Block - all will probably average close to, or around 30 mins/game or more. That leaves about fifty total minutes to be had. I can see Taylor, Carter, Culver getting 12-15 mins each. I'd have to assume either Laster or Harley (Gollon if healthy), as guards are going to get whatever minutes are left. That leaves Wadley and Dozier on the outside. Of course I know nearly nothing about Dozier, so maybe he ends up in the rotation. Regardless of what the rotation ends up being, this is one of the more talented Bobcat teams top to bottom that I can remember since my first year in 1995. The 2011-2013 years are obviously up there as well, but this bunch is deep. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,912 Status: Offline     RE: New Guys Making an Impact    Posted: 8/15/2016 4:05:05 PM  OU_Country wrote: Andrew Ruck wrote: Very cool. Love the praise Kenny is giving, but if his shooting doesn't come back, he could be the one to give up minutes for Carter. I give him credit for being an excellent teammate in his time here. Harley/Mompremier/Laster will get minutes but won't be starters. Dozier & Gollon may have an uphill battle to ever crack thru. I, like most, do not know much about them, but I'm certainly not counting them out. If Culver is 75% as good as Dartis was last year, one of Harley or Laster isn't going to play much at all if everyone stays healthy. I also think I remember reading Gollon may sit this year with an injury? I also don't see Wadley getting much PT unless Saul opts to play 10-11 deep. What everyone says about Taylor suggests he's ready to get serious PT this year. He, along with Block, are two sophomores that I'd expect to make serious contributions and get serious PT. So OUr minutes played are probably gonna look like this: Tony, Simmons, Dartis, Kaminski, Block - all will probably average close to, or around 30 mins/game or more. That leaves about fifty total minutes to be had. I can see Taylor, Carter, Culver getting 12-15 mins each. I'd have to assume either Laster or Harley (Gollon if healthy), as guards are going to get whatever minutes are left. That leaves Wadley and Dozier on the outside. Of course I know nearly nothing about Dozier, so maybe he ends up in the rotation. Regardless of what the rotation ends up being, this is one of the more talented Bobcat teams top to bottom that I can remember since my first year in 1995. The 2011-2013 years are obviously up there as well, but this bunch is deep. I really don't know if Ohio can afford to sit Laster that much, unless Culver and Carter are going to be that much better defensively than he is. If Laster just improved his shooting a little bit, he'd be a go-to guy off the bench. His quickness is something a lot of the guys other than Dartis and Simmons don't have. I remember Saul saying something about his driving ability in a post game after he got a lot of minutes. Paraphrasing, but something to the tune of "we just couldn't guard him in practice, so I had to give him some minutes." And his quickness on the defensive end is also needed. Whatever happens, I like the possibility of depth that Ohio is going to have. And like you, I'm still curious as to what we might see out of Dozier. He could be a guy who competes for more minutes than anyone and we don't even know it. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,320 Status: Offline     RE: New Guys Making an Impact    Posted: 8/15/2016 4:51:39 PM  I totally agree with you regarding Laster if he improves the shot, and/or finishing around the rim or in the lane. But if Culver becomes the defender Saul wants him to be, he might take those minutes, and there are only so many minutes to go around. Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: New Guys Making an Impact    Posted: 8/15/2016 7:45:19 PM  Guys are gonna have to play to get minutes. Real ball. Saulball. Should leave us in good standing in tough games by the time we get to the end part of the season. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! 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Still have concerns about what happens if Simmons gets dinged up, or in foul trouble, but that's really my only concern. Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,624 Status: Offline     RE: New Guys Making an Impact    Posted: 8/16/2016 2:35:08 PM  Maybe I'm in the dark, but how does anyone know if these newcomers will make an impact? Practice hasn't started, so are these guys having structured workouts on campus in the summer? Is everyone on campus taking summer school classes and working out together? Please illuminate me. Back to Top brucecuth General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Post Count: 1,794 Status: Offline     RE: New Guys Making an Impact    Posted: 8/16/2016 3:07:23 PM  giacomo wrote: Maybe I'm in the dark, but how does anyone know if these newcomers will make an impact? Practice hasn't started, so are these guys having structured workouts on campus in the summer? Is everyone on campus taking summer school classes and working out together? Please illuminate me. Players on most D-I teams attend summer school these days, with freshmen enrolling early to do so. One reason is because several years ago, NCAA rules were changed to allow coaches to have "hands-on" interaction with the kids for several hours each week for "skill development". They also participate in supervised weight training and conditioning. Of course, they also organize games among themselves. I believe, but am not certain, that coaches may observe these games. 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